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AUGcodon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada536 Posts
July 13 2018 18:41 GMT
#561
has is pretty decent with micro on those one base pushes, it's weird how atrocious his stalker control was.
2809-8732-2116/ Fighting/ Mienfoo, Tyrogue, Sawk
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
July 13 2018 18:42 GMT
#562
On July 14 2018 03:41 AUGcodon wrote:
has is pretty decent with micro on those one base pushes, it's weird how atrocious his stalker control was.

Has has mind boggling bad micro and macro when it comes to an actual macro game
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
July 13 2018 18:42 GMT
#563
On July 14 2018 03:41 AUGcodon wrote:
has is pretty decent with micro on those one base pushes, it's weird how atrocious his stalker control was.

It's because he has terrible minimap awareness and reflexes.

He's looking somewhere else when his stalkers walk into siege tanks and it takes like 5 seconds for him to react to the notification.
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
July 13 2018 18:42 GMT
#564
People should stop making jokes about it and admit that he is the best at doing it, at a level that he can compete win anyone. I mean, he is probably the only player in the world that plays his own build, all the others are more or less equilize with the same style/build orders with just some exceptions here and there. He plays how he wants and it works. Fantastic
Vasacast always in my <3
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
July 13 2018 18:42 GMT
#565
Wonder how Has would deal with someone taking the aggression to him, proxy reaper into cyclone shenanigans
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
July 13 2018 18:43 GMT
#566
On July 14 2018 03:40 sashkata wrote:
Don't forget to vote for Has in GSL vs the World.

Done

Pretty sick that it's a TL poll and not the official Bnet forums now.
Neosteel Enthusiast
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
July 13 2018 18:43 GMT
#567
On July 14 2018 03:42 SuperHofmann wrote:
People should stop making jokes about it and admit that he is the best at doing it, at a level that he can compete win anyone. I mean, he is probably the only player in the world that plays his own build, all the others are more or less equilize with the same style/build orders with just some exceptions here and there. He plays how he wants and it works. Fantastic

No one is making fun of Has in this thread, just appreciating him for the truly unique and entertaining player that he is. All the comments like "I love Has" are not sarcasm, they're sincere.
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
July 13 2018 18:45 GMT
#568
On July 14 2018 03:43 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 03:42 SuperHofmann wrote:
People should stop making jokes about it and admit that he is the best at doing it, at a level that he can compete win anyone. I mean, he is probably the only player in the world that plays his own build, all the others are more or less equilize with the same style/build orders with just some exceptions here and there. He plays how he wants and it works. Fantastic

No one is making fun of Has in this thread, just appreciating him for the truly unique and entertaining player that he is. All the comments like "I love Has" are not sarcasm, they're sincere.

I was talking about the general perception that a Starcraft 2 fan has about him, not about this thread specifically. ^^
Vasacast always in my <3
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
July 13 2018 18:45 GMT
#569
On July 14 2018 03:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 03:40 sashkata wrote:
Don't forget to vote for Has in GSL vs the World.

Done

Pretty sick that it's a TL poll and not the official Bnet forums now.

Not sure if I like it tbh, but nice for TL.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
July 13 2018 18:45 GMT
#570
On July 14 2018 03:42 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 03:41 AUGcodon wrote:
has is pretty decent with micro on those one base pushes, it's weird how atrocious his stalker control was.

It's because he has terrible minimap awareness and reflexes.

He's looking somewhere else when his stalkers walk into siege tanks and it takes like 5 seconds for him to react to the notification.

For a pro obviously that's no bueno but he's still way faster than me on the map awareness
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
July 13 2018 18:45 GMT
#571
I don't understand, Kelzhur is proxying himself?? What is up with his building placement?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
July 13 2018 18:45 GMT
#572
On July 14 2018 03:45 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 03:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On July 14 2018 03:40 sashkata wrote:
Don't forget to vote for Has in GSL vs the World.

Done

Pretty sick that it's a TL poll and not the official Bnet forums now.

Not sure if I like it tbh, but nice for TL.

Ah but do you remember how last year they did the thing on the Bnet forums and it was completely broken for Europeans
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 13 2018 18:46 GMT
#573
On July 14 2018 03:45 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I don't understand, Kelzhur is proxying himself?? What is up with his building placement?

If the probe doesn't check your natural, but only main, it looks like a proxy. And it's basically free for Terran (almost no mining time lost by placing the rax and factory in your natural).
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 13 2018 18:47 GMT
#574
On July 14 2018 03:45 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 03:45 Musicus wrote:
On July 14 2018 03:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On July 14 2018 03:40 sashkata wrote:
Don't forget to vote for Has in GSL vs the World.

Done

Pretty sick that it's a TL poll and not the official Bnet forums now.

Not sure if I like it tbh, but nice for TL.

Ah but do you remember how last year they did the thing on the Bnet forums and it was completely broken for Europeans

Eh, Blizzard could've asked me. Starcraftstarleague.com doesn't affiliate itself with any involved parties.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
July 13 2018 18:47 GMT
#575
On July 14 2018 03:45 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 03:45 Musicus wrote:
On July 14 2018 03:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On July 14 2018 03:40 sashkata wrote:
Don't forget to vote for Has in GSL vs the World.

Done

Pretty sick that it's a TL poll and not the official Bnet forums now.

Not sure if I like it tbh, but nice for TL.

Ah but do you remember how last year they did the thing on the Bnet forums and it was completely broken for Europeans

Yeah that sucked too!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
July 13 2018 18:48 GMT
#576
On July 14 2018 03:45 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I don't understand, Kelzhur is proxying himself?? What is up with his building placement?


Its called the Maka rax from the beta days. You "proxy yourself" to trick the enemy into thinking you're really proxying
AUGcodon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada536 Posts
July 13 2018 18:48 GMT
#577
Lets see how a real macro game goes
2809-8732-2116/ Fighting/ Mienfoo, Tyrogue, Sawk
TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2656 Posts
July 13 2018 18:48 GMT
#578
On July 14 2018 03:46 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 03:45 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I don't understand, Kelzhur is proxying himself?? What is up with his building placement?

If the probe doesn't check your natural, but only main, it looks like a proxy. And it's basically free for Terran (almost no mining time lost by placing the rax and factory in your natural).

How does that help Kelazhur then?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
July 13 2018 18:48 GMT
#579
On July 14 2018 03:47 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 03:45 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2018 03:45 Musicus wrote:
On July 14 2018 03:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On July 14 2018 03:40 sashkata wrote:
Don't forget to vote for Has in GSL vs the World.

Done

Pretty sick that it's a TL poll and not the official Bnet forums now.

Not sure if I like it tbh, but nice for TL.

Ah but do you remember how last year they did the thing on the Bnet forums and it was completely broken for Europeans

Eh, Blizzard could've asked me. Starcraftstarleague.com doesn't affiliate itself with any involved parties.

Don't even care about the Liquid players, but how mana Taiwanese and Chinse fans are using TL.

Same for the Korean vote, it's basically foreign fans only voting on the Korean players...
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 13 2018 18:50 GMT
#580
On July 14 2018 03:48 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 03:46 Ej_ wrote:
On July 14 2018 03:45 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
I don't understand, Kelzhur is proxying himself?? What is up with his building placement?

If the probe doesn't check your natural, but only main, it looks like a proxy. And it's basically free for Terran (almost no mining time lost by placing the rax and factory in your natural).

How does that help Kelazhur then?

It looks like a proxy if you are the Protoss. You would delay your natural and go around with a probe looking for it. Watch Stats vs Maru on Abyssal Reef from their GSL final to have a better idea.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
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