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Tyrhanius
Profile Joined April 2011
France947 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-13 15:57:24
July 13 2018 15:57 GMT
#401
On July 14 2018 00:55 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 00:54 Mozdk wrote:
On July 14 2018 00:53 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2018 00:51 Mozdk wrote:
He made 3 zealots. He could have made two zealots and a battery. Would be a sure tie then.

He had a battery the entire time. These guys are both having issues.


An extra battery. It ran out a when he still had stalkers.

He had a battery next to a cannon in the main the entire time so god alone knows why he was chasing 3 units around the map in a clear draw.

To break clem's mental
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 13 2018 15:57 GMT
#402
isnt 35k viewers a lot ? seems like sc2 might be getting a bit of resurgence of popularity.
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13321 Posts
July 13 2018 15:57 GMT
#403
On July 14 2018 00:57 fededevi wrote:
How does the draw work? Why the victory was not awarded to showtime?

He can't kill Clem's buildings.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
July 13 2018 15:57 GMT
#404
On July 14 2018 00:57 fededevi wrote:
How does the draw work? Why the victory was not awarded to showtime?

He couldn't have killed the floating buildings of Clem (no flying unit) so it was an obvious draw with nobody able to win.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
July 13 2018 15:58 GMT
#405
On July 14 2018 00:57 fededevi wrote:
How does the draw work? Why the victory was not awarded to showtime?

They just replay the map.

Showtime wasn't awarded the victory because he could never kill Clem's buildings.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
July 13 2018 15:58 GMT
#406
On July 14 2018 00:57 fededevi wrote:
How does the draw work? Why the victory was not awarded to showtime?

The objective is to kill all your opponents buildings. Neither of them could do that (Clem had no units and Showtime had nothing to hit flying buildings)
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Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
July 13 2018 15:58 GMT
#407
If clem would have taken some time to regroup his scvs, repair and just attack buildings I think he could have had a better chance. gg tho.
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TheLordofAwesome
Profile Joined May 2014
Korea (South)2655 Posts
July 13 2018 15:58 GMT
#408
On July 14 2018 00:57 Tyrhanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 00:55 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2018 00:54 Mozdk wrote:
On July 14 2018 00:53 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2018 00:51 Mozdk wrote:
He made 3 zealots. He could have made two zealots and a battery. Would be a sure tie then.

He had a battery the entire time. These guys are both having issues.


An extra battery. It ran out a when he still had stalkers.

He had a battery next to a cannon in the main the entire time so god alone knows why he was chasing 3 units around the map in a clear draw.

To break clem's mental

Showtime can't win cuz floating buildings. Clem can always theoretically win as long as he has a medivac and some bio.
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
July 13 2018 15:58 GMT
#409
Kinda cool to see a drawn game, they hardly happen anymore compared to WoL and HotS if my memory serves
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 13 2018 15:59 GMT
#410
On July 14 2018 00:57 kongoline wrote:
isnt 35k viewers a lot ? seems like sc2 might be getting a bit of resurgence of popularity.

It's not a lot on the grand scale of twitch but it is better than last year
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
July 13 2018 15:59 GMT
#411
On July 14 2018 00:58 TheLordofAwesome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 00:57 Tyrhanius wrote:
On July 14 2018 00:55 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2018 00:54 Mozdk wrote:
On July 14 2018 00:53 Elentos wrote:
On July 14 2018 00:51 Mozdk wrote:
He made 3 zealots. He could have made two zealots and a battery. Would be a sure tie then.

He had a battery the entire time. These guys are both having issues.


An extra battery. It ran out a when he still had stalkers.

He had a battery next to a cannon in the main the entire time so god alone knows why he was chasing 3 units around the map in a clear draw.

To break clem's mental

Showtime can't win cuz floating buildings. Clem can always theoretically win as long as he has a medivac and some bio.

Which means chasing Clem around the map was the only way Showtime could have lost.

Also building and then cancelling a nexus in the bottom left made it impossible for him to win outright.
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 13 2018 16:00 GMT
#412
On July 14 2018 00:57 fededevi wrote:
How does the draw work? Why the victory was not awarded to showtime?


Because showtime cannot kill Clem's buildings. They fly and he has no flying units.

A starcraft game ends when you've killed all their buildings, or when it's been a while since last units/building died.

Since Clem was out of units, and showtime was unable to kill Clem's buildings, the timer would go out. Meaning a draw.

They didn't bother waiting the 2-3 mins for that to happen, as it was the only thing that could happen.
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Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
July 13 2018 16:00 GMT
#413
The draw was definitely a lot better than Avilo Riddler which was the last one I saw before that.
fededevi
Profile Joined April 2018
Italy45 Posts
July 13 2018 16:00 GMT
#414
I see, thanks.

Wouldn't make sense to count only building which are on the ground?
Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
July 13 2018 16:01 GMT
#415
On July 14 2018 00:57 Lexender wrote:
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On July 14 2018 00:54 travis wrote:
its so cool that so deep into the life of sc2 we still get new top tier players appearing

first neeb coming up ~3 years ago, then serral

now we've got these two super young players in clem and reynor moving up and trying to take the spot of #1 foreigner


what a game that was


Too bad Clem chose the worst performing race by far in foreign Starcraft, I'll love to be proven wrong by him to, its been so long since the times of Thorzain and Co.


Not saying this changes the fact that terran is the worst perfoming race in the foreign scene, but Uthermal did win a WCS event much more recently
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33457 Posts
July 13 2018 16:01 GMT
#416
I can't believe Has wasn't involved in the dumbest game of the tournament XD
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RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
July 13 2018 16:01 GMT
#417
On July 14 2018 00:57 fededevi wrote:
How does the draw work? Why the victory was not awarded to showtime?

ST can't destroy the flying buildings.
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Vedeynevin
Profile Joined February 2015
United States431 Posts
July 13 2018 16:02 GMT
#418
On July 14 2018 01:01 Waxangel wrote:
I can't believe Has wasn't involved in the dumbest game of the tournament XD


Yet
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
July 13 2018 16:02 GMT
#419
On July 14 2018 01:01 Waxangel wrote:
I can't believe Has wasn't involved in the dumbest game of the tournament XD

Just you wait, I'm sure Has will find a way to top that somehow
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-13 16:05:57
July 13 2018 16:04 GMT
#420
On July 14 2018 01:00 fededevi wrote:
I see, thanks.

Wouldn't make sense to count only building which are on the ground?

It would make more sense to just limit how long Terran buildings can fly without having to land.

If you include only landed buildings, a Terran player could lose in a base trade situation while not attempting to force a draw which would be super dumb. (e.g., they are flying out all their production and the Protoss player wipes out their addons and supply depots leaving only flying buildings)
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