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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
July 13 2018 14:55 GMT
#341
Clem :/
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
July 13 2018 14:55 GMT
#342
Neeb back the his 2016-17 form!!!
Just listen to this "I have no chance" interview
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
July 13 2018 14:55 GMT
#343
Neeb is such a good guy
Proko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1022 Posts
July 13 2018 14:55 GMT
#344
Neeb outclassing Bly, sad to hear he's giving the edge to showtime.
Caster duos should compliment each others' strengths. "You look very handsome today, Tasteless."
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
July 13 2018 14:57 GMT
#345
On July 13 2018 23:54 sudete wrote:
Neeb has looked unstable all year, even when he won the Hangzhou tournament over hero and rogue


I mean, when you're unstable and still win over Hero and Rogue, that must still mean something. IIRC he also snatched a 2-0 series in GSL qualifiers over soO. He's unstable, but his unstable state is still better than most players' stable state.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-13 15:01:56
July 13 2018 15:01 GMT
#346
On July 13 2018 23:57 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 23:54 sudete wrote:
Neeb has looked unstable all year, even when he won the Hangzhou tournament over hero and rogue


I mean, when you're unstable and still win over Hero and Rogue, that must still mean something. IIRC he also snatched a 2-0 series in GSL qualifiers over soO. He's unstable, but his unstable state is still better than most players' stable state.

It was a 2-1 followed by an 0-2 in rematch. But regardless, unstable means unstable. He can be really strong but he hasn't managed to keep it up for any longer stretches of time. He can also look weak and bounce back impressively.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
July 13 2018 15:03 GMT
#347
On July 13 2018 23:57 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 23:54 sudete wrote:
Neeb has looked unstable all year, even when he won the Hangzhou tournament over hero and rogue


I mean, when you're unstable and still win over Hero and Rogue, that must still mean something. IIRC he also snatched a 2-0 series in GSL qualifiers over soO. He's unstable, but his unstable state is still better than most players' stable state.


Imho Neeb is still the best foreigner after Serral, despite what form he is in
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-13 15:07:00
July 13 2018 15:04 GMT
#348
On July 13 2018 20:14 BisuDagger wrote:
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On July 13 2018 20:10 geokilla wrote:
Reymor reminds me so much of Life omg

He is very similar. What I like from Reynor is that he techs up really well. Sometimes I felt life just tried to win purely on ling roach (which he did very often), and maybe that's because he was just too good to need to tech. But Reynor plays tech focused very well and throughout that he's makes great use of lings from start to finish.


I also absolutely love his positioning in setting up engagements. Best player at consistently doing that since Stephano in my opinion.As you mentioned, watching the mini-map in Reynor games is so fun!

On July 14 2018 00:03 raff100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 23:57 Kommander wrote:
On July 13 2018 23:54 sudete wrote:
Neeb has looked unstable all year, even when he won the Hangzhou tournament over hero and rogue


I mean, when you're unstable and still win over Hero and Rogue, that must still mean something. IIRC he also snatched a 2-0 series in GSL qualifiers over soO. He's unstable, but his unstable state is still better than most players' stable state.


Imho Neeb is still the best foreigner after Serral, despite what form he is in


Possibly. But Reynor's beaten the 3rd and 4th best foreigners with authority this tournament (in my opinion) in Showtime and Special. I'd welcome a Reynor vs Neeb match (though I don't think Reynor will get past Serral).
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-13 15:09:55
July 13 2018 15:07 GMT
#349
On July 13 2018 22:52 AzAlexZ wrote:
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On July 13 2018 22:44 HolydaKing wrote:
Neeb will probably have to 3-0 Bly if he wants to beat Reynor or Serral.

Different play styles, Bly is cheesy, he will definitely take a map

LUL, See what I mean?
Faker is the GOAT!
sudete
Profile Joined December 2012
Singapore3054 Posts
July 13 2018 15:12 GMT
#350
On July 13 2018 23:57 Kommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 23:54 sudete wrote:
Neeb has looked unstable all year, even when he won the Hangzhou tournament over hero and rogue


I mean, when you're unstable and still win over Hero and Rogue, that must still mean something. IIRC he also snatched a 2-0 series in GSL qualifiers over soO. He's unstable, but his unstable state is still better than most players' stable state.


That's true, and it just makes me wonder why he has struggled this year to find the sort of consistency that won him 3 WCS and kespa cup. Maybe it was patch 4.0 that changed everything, but it just feels like he doesn't close out games the way that he used to - he makes so many risky moves and throws leads away more often nowadays. Not saying that he won't beat top players and/or win tournaments (and he already has this year), but he would have better chances with his solid style of old
Year of MaxPax
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
July 13 2018 15:12 GMT
#351
On July 14 2018 00:04 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 20:14 BisuDagger wrote:
On July 13 2018 20:10 geokilla wrote:
Reymor reminds me so much of Life omg

He is very similar. What I like from Reynor is that he techs up really well. Sometimes I felt life just tried to win purely on ling roach (which he did very often), and maybe that's because he was just too good to need to tech. But Reynor plays tech focused very well and throughout that he's makes great use of lings from start to finish.


I also absolutely love his positioning in setting up engagements. Best player at consistently doing that since Stephano in my opinion.As you mentioned, watching the mini-map in Reynor games is so fun!

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 00:03 raff100 wrote:
On July 13 2018 23:57 Kommander wrote:
On July 13 2018 23:54 sudete wrote:
Neeb has looked unstable all year, even when he won the Hangzhou tournament over hero and rogue


I mean, when you're unstable and still win over Hero and Rogue, that must still mean something. IIRC he also snatched a 2-0 series in GSL qualifiers over soO. He's unstable, but his unstable state is still better than most players' stable state.


Imho Neeb is still the best foreigner after Serral, despite what form he is in


Possibly. But Reynor's beaten the 3rd and 4th best foreigners with authority this tournament (in my opinion) in Showtime and Special. I'd welcome a Reynor vs Neeb match (though I don't think Reynor will get past Serral).


I don't want to hype Reynor too much, so I won't be disappointed if he loses
Boggyb
Profile Joined January 2017
2855 Posts
July 13 2018 15:17 GMT
#352
On July 14 2018 00:07 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 22:52 AzAlexZ wrote:
On July 13 2018 22:44 HolydaKing wrote:
Neeb will probably have to 3-0 Bly if he wants to beat Reynor or Serral.

Different play styles, Bly is cheesy, he will definitely take a map

LUL, See what I mean?

It wasn't Bly being cheesy that won him a game.

On July 14 2018 00:12 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2018 23:57 Kommander wrote:
On July 13 2018 23:54 sudete wrote:
Neeb has looked unstable all year, even when he won the Hangzhou tournament over hero and rogue


I mean, when you're unstable and still win over Hero and Rogue, that must still mean something. IIRC he also snatched a 2-0 series in GSL qualifiers over soO. He's unstable, but his unstable state is still better than most players' stable state.


That's true, and it just makes me wonder why he has struggled this year to find the sort of consistency that won him 3 WCS and kespa cup. Maybe it was patch 4.0 that changed everything, but it just feels like he doesn't close out games the way that he used to - he makes so many risky moves and throws leads away more often nowadays. Not saying that he won't beat top players and/or win tournaments (and he already has this year), but he would have better chances with his solid style of old

His struggles early in the year were a product of how absolutely broken PvZ was. His losses since then were in PvP with his loss to Mana feeling like it came because he just wasn't respecting Mana.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
July 13 2018 15:25 GMT
#353
Tiny french boy brutalized by tall, muscular German male.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 13 2018 15:25 GMT
#354
SC is going to shut down for streaming live bullying
Liquipedia"Expert"
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
July 13 2018 15:25 GMT
#355
On July 14 2018 00:17 Boggyb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 00:07 AzAlexZ wrote:
On July 13 2018 22:52 AzAlexZ wrote:
On July 13 2018 22:44 HolydaKing wrote:
Neeb will probably have to 3-0 Bly if he wants to beat Reynor or Serral.

Different play styles, Bly is cheesy, he will definitely take a map

LUL, See what I mean?

It wasn't Bly being cheesy that won him a game.

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2018 00:12 sudete wrote:
On July 13 2018 23:57 Kommander wrote:
On July 13 2018 23:54 sudete wrote:
Neeb has looked unstable all year, even when he won the Hangzhou tournament over hero and rogue


I mean, when you're unstable and still win over Hero and Rogue, that must still mean something. IIRC he also snatched a 2-0 series in GSL qualifiers over soO. He's unstable, but his unstable state is still better than most players' stable state.


That's true, and it just makes me wonder why he has struggled this year to find the sort of consistency that won him 3 WCS and kespa cup. Maybe it was patch 4.0 that changed everything, but it just feels like he doesn't close out games the way that he used to - he makes so many risky moves and throws leads away more often nowadays. Not saying that he won't beat top players and/or win tournaments (and he already has this year), but he would have better chances with his solid style of old

His struggles early in the year were a product of how absolutely broken PvZ was. His losses since then were in PvP with his loss to Mana feeling like it came because he just wasn't respecting Mana.


Did something change in PvZ this year? The dropperlord nerf was the only thing I can recall.
raff100
Profile Joined April 2011
498 Posts
July 13 2018 15:28 GMT
#356
On July 14 2018 00:25 Inflicted wrote:
SC is going to shut down for streaming live bullying


Like the little italian bullying the big mexican?
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
July 13 2018 15:32 GMT
#357
Getting 4 probes when the Protoss barely reacts is actually very bad.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Latr02
Profile Joined December 2012
United States268 Posts
July 13 2018 15:35 GMT
#358
"one of those Artosis pylons" - Tasteless acting like we might not know what that is.
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
July 13 2018 15:37 GMT
#359
That was a razor sharp defense timing by Showtime. Sick.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Gurbak
Profile Joined January 2017
France622 Posts
July 13 2018 15:44 GMT
#360
is that a clownfiesta?
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