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[GSL Code S] Season 3 2017 - Grand Finals!

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Pandemona *
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 15 2017 18:41 GMT
#1

GSL Season 3


Saturday, Sep 16 8:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2017_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_3/Code_S

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Format

  • Quarterfinals: Single-elimination playoffs.
  • Quarterfinals: Best-of-five.
  • Semifinals: Best-of-seven.
  • All 4 players who make it to this round are seeded in next season's Code S.
  • Finals: Best-of-seven.

Grand Finals


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(T)INnoVation vs (P)sOs


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Pandemona *
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 15 2017 18:41 GMT
#2
Poll: GSL Code S Season 3 Champion?

INnoVation (52)
 
63%

sOs (31)
 
37%

83 total votes

Your vote: GSL Code S Season 3 Champion?

(Vote): INnoVation
(Vote): sOs

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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
September 15 2017 18:42 GMT
#3
sOs 4-0


Serious prediction is sOs 4-3 though.
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-15 19:13:28
September 15 2017 18:44 GMT
#4
(T)INnoVation 4-2 (P)sOs

As Mizenhauer said, Inno is the prohibitive favorite. There is quite simply, too much in his favor. History, playstyle, form, the list goes on but the conclusion is clear: Inno is the better player. stuchiu outlined the win conditions for sOs, and how it just isn't likely sOs can pull off a miracle 7 games in a row. I can see Protoss bullshit letting sOs take a game or two, but no more than that. Inno can just play defensive macro builds until he maxes and then he slaughters sOs.

As is his wont in long series, Inno will probably bring one brand-new, optimized build to the table and stick to it. He doesn't need to have a huge bag of tricks, he just needs to survive without getting dragged into some ugly shitshow.

On the other hand, sOs has plenty of options but very few viable ones:
Cheese? Inno is expecting it.
Mindgames? I've seen rocks more tilted.
Macro games? Against Inno?


That being said, there's no denying this is narratively a beautiful match. The epitome of clean macro play against the embodiment of dirty cheesy play. Ultraorthodox Terran against idiosyncratic Protoss.The fearsomely precise Machine against the insanely mercurial Trickster. Mechanics against mindgames. Prestige against wealth. The man who never smiles against the guy who always smiles. INnoVation vs sOs.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16006 Posts
September 15 2017 18:45 GMT
#5
4-0 INnoVation.

NesTea vs Inca will look like a close series in comparison.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-15 19:14:56
September 15 2017 18:53 GMT
#6
(T)Bogus 2-4 (P)sOs

The thirst for money is too strong. $O$ wins and goes to Blizzcon with futuristic builds of doom.

On September 16 2017 04:02 rotta wrote:
sOs is not realistic.


Gets it.

sOs has that exciting x-factor that Life, Taeja, and Mvp all had.
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 15 2017 19:00 GMT
#7
INno cant lose a bo7 against sOs, be realistic...
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5595 Posts
September 15 2017 19:02 GMT
#8
sOs is not realistic.

2-4
don't wall off against random
ByuuN
Profile Joined November 2016
Poland678 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-15 19:12:44
September 15 2017 19:11 GMT
#9
(T)Bogus 4-1 (P)sOs

Just another one-sided final with Innovation.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 15 2017 19:12 GMT
#10
On September 16 2017 03:45 Charoisaur wrote:
4-0 INnoVation.

NesTea vs Inca will look like a close series in comparison.

Oh imagine if he does 4x DT rushes :3
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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-15 19:20:39
September 15 2017 19:15 GMT
#11
On September 16 2017 04:12 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2017 03:45 Charoisaur wrote:
4-0 INnoVation.

NesTea vs Inca will look like a close series in comparison.

Oh imagine if he does 4x DT rushes :3

and loses every one?

Tbh I expect sOs to try something new at least once, like the mothership rush he tried against ByuN. Inno is no doubt fully prepared against proxy Oracles, DTs, pylon rushes, and the rest of the standard Protoss bullshit playbook. But then again, we saw how the MS rush turned out.

sOs's biggest problem is that this isn't a weekender. Both finalists have had plenty of prep time, and prep time heavily favors INnoVation.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 15 2017 19:17 GMT
#12
sOs will proxy robos and oracles, take gold bases and mass zealots, pylon rush, probably do some cheese we've never seen before. Something will work. But will it work on 4/7 maps? Not likely

I don't think an Inno 4-0 is likely unless he plays macro games each time.

I don't think it will be Neeb-Snute levels of onesidedness
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-15 19:24:05
September 15 2017 19:20 GMT
#13
On September 16 2017 04:17 Fango wrote:
sOs will proxy robos and oracles, take gold bases and mass zealots, pylon rush, probably do some cheese we've never seen before. Something will work. But will it work on 4/7 maps? Not likely

I don't think an Inno 4-0 is likely unless he plays macro games each time.

I don't think it will be Neeb-Snute levels of onesidedness

Yep, this exactly. sOs will throw the whole reeking book of Protoss bullshit at Inno, and write a couple new pages on the fly. Something in there will probably stick once. Maybe twice. I just can't see it sticking four times.

It's the same old problem that plagues the ladder. You can get surprisingly far by only cheesing, by refusing to macro, by catching your opponent off guard or on tilt. But you can't win in the long run. Standard macro play is admired as the direct testament to the player's skill, and I am confident that the more skilled player wins GSL.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 15 2017 19:43 GMT
#14
On September 16 2017 04:20 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2017 04:17 Fango wrote:
sOs will proxy robos and oracles, take gold bases and mass zealots, pylon rush, probably do some cheese we've never seen before. Something will work. But will it work on 4/7 maps? Not likely

I don't think an Inno 4-0 is likely unless he plays macro games each time.

I don't think it will be Neeb-Snute levels of onesidedness

Yep, this exactly. sOs will throw the whole reeking book of Protoss bullshit at Inno, and write a couple new pages on the fly. Something in there will probably stick once. Maybe twice. I just can't see it sticking four times.

It's the same old problem that plagues the ladder. You can get surprisingly far by only cheesing, by refusing to macro, by catching your opponent off guard or on tilt. But you can't win in the long run. Standard macro play is admired as the direct testament to the player's skill, and I am confident that the more skilled player wins GSL.


It seems the best hope of sOs is an Inno choke lol
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
September 15 2017 19:43 GMT
#15
4-1 or 4-2 inno
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-15 20:00:38
September 15 2017 19:59 GMT
#16
On September 16 2017 04:43 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2017 04:20 pvsnp wrote:
On September 16 2017 04:17 Fango wrote:
sOs will proxy robos and oracles, take gold bases and mass zealots, pylon rush, probably do some cheese we've never seen before. Something will work. But will it work on 4/7 maps? Not likely

I don't think an Inno 4-0 is likely unless he plays macro games each time.

I don't think it will be Neeb-Snute levels of onesidedness

Yep, this exactly. sOs will throw the whole reeking book of Protoss bullshit at Inno, and write a couple new pages on the fly. Something in there will probably stick once. Maybe twice. I just can't see it sticking four times.

It's the same old problem that plagues the ladder. You can get surprisingly far by only cheesing, by refusing to macro, by catching your opponent off guard or on tilt. But you can't win in the long run. Standard macro play is admired as the direct testament to the player's skill, and I am confident that the more skilled player wins GSL.


It seems the best hope of sOs is an Inno choke lol

He better be praying for a miracle, then. Inno hasn't lost a finals since 2013 (and he won six).

sOs can win GSL, the possibility certainly exists. But Inno is the heavy favorite, no doubt about that.
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Alarak89
Profile Joined January 2016
United States882 Posts
September 15 2017 20:14 GMT
#17
On September 16 2017 03:42 The_Templar wrote:
sOs 4-0


Serious prediction is sOs 4-3 though.

I would not be surprised if sOs 4-0ed Bogus tbh, but 4-1 or 4-2 is more realistic.
sOs is THE ONLY player I pay attention to
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
September 15 2017 20:36 GMT
#18
On September 16 2017 05:14 Alarak89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2017 03:42 The_Templar wrote:
sOs 4-0


Serious prediction is sOs 4-3 though.

I would not be surprised if sOs 4-0ed Bogus tbh, but 4-1 or 4-2 is more realistic.

I admire your courage, if not your wisdom.
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Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
September 15 2017 20:59 GMT
#19
Betting against INnoVation in a best of 7 that he's had time to prepare for EleGiggle

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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 15 2017 21:07 GMT
#20
Innovation wins the third GSL season of a year, he has this.
4-1 or 4-2.

The GOAT discussion will never stop though, not even this GSL win will be enough for some
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