• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:10
CEST 21:10
KST 04:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview5[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris40Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195
StarCraft 2
General
2024/25 Off-Season Roster Moves #2: Serral - Greatest Players of All Time #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview Greatest Players of All Time: 2025 Update
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo) Kirktown Chat Brawl #8 - 4.6K max Tonight LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies
Brood War
General
Post ASL20 Ro24 discussion. BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Easiest luckies way to get out of Asl groups BW General Discussion No Rain in ASL20?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group F [IPSL] CSLAN Review and CSLPRO Reimagined! Small VOD Thread 2.0 Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Path of Exile Mechabellum Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
How Culture and Conflict Imp…
TrAiDoS
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2380 users

[S2SL] Ro8 Day 1 - Page 19

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 83 Next
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55552 Posts
May 21 2015 10:10 GMT
#361
On May 21 2015 19:09 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:08 Penev wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Heartland wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Penev wrote:
Storm would be a good thing to have


He didn't get storm because he instead went with a 3rd without gases in order to produce a big gateway army to be able to defend. That worked so-so

Maybe mixing in some Immortals would've helped? You really need the aoe though..


Then you get less splash which is what you need vs the barbaric terran hordes

Immortals like shooting marauders though,
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24582 Posts
May 21 2015 10:11 GMT
#362
On May 21 2015 19:10 Baadbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:07 SC2Toastie wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Baadbeat wrote:
Maru's drops are so deadly. Hero never could(or would) group up his army and just got outplayed by Maru never knowing where his army is. maybe the answer to Maru is going HT scattered to feedback drops?

Go Maru pls!

HT openings are hard to pull off, especially against somebody THIS agressive. Additionally, the transition is expensive and essentially allows Maru to flat out overrun you....


True, I'm just trying to ponder on a counterplay to Maru's style in Macro(ish) games


I think Myungsik's build was as close to perfect as you can come but that Myungsik is just a worse player than Maru so he failed
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
May 21 2015 10:11 GMT
#363
On May 21 2015 19:08 The_Templar wrote:
S2SL: RO8 Day 1

(P)herO vs (T)Maru
0-1


Map: King Sejong Station

herO spawns in the bottom right
Maru spawns in the top left

2:00
Gateway/single gas for herO.
Barracks/gas –> marine opening for Maru.

3:00
Maru denies a nexus for a few seconds but it gets down.
Factory for Maru.
herO getting a MSC.

4:00
Widow mine and starport for Maru.
Stalker for herO, no tech yet.

5:00
herO getting a twilight council.
Maru is still on one gas, herO has two.
Maru building a single hellion and a medivac.
Maru about to expand.
herO getting blink.
Maru moves out with some marines which dodge a probe.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#364
The way to beat Maru is to play full Protoss BS like Parting
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28482 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#365
On May 21 2015 19:09 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:08 Penev wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Heartland wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Penev wrote:
Storm would be a good thing to have


He didn't get storm because he instead went with a 3rd without gases in order to produce a big gateway army to be able to defend. That worked so-so

Maybe mixing in some Immortals would've helped? You really need the aoe though..


Then you get less splash which is what you need vs the barbaric terran hordes

hmhm
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#366
On May 21 2015 19:10 Baadbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:07 SC2Toastie wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Baadbeat wrote:
Maru's drops are so deadly. Hero never could(or would) group up his army and just got outplayed by Maru never knowing where his army is. maybe the answer to Maru is going HT scattered to feedback drops?

Go Maru pls!

HT openings are hard to pull off, especially against somebody THIS agressive. Additionally, the transition is expensive and essentially allows Maru to flat out overrun you....


True, I'm just trying to ponder on a counterplay to Maru's style in Macro(ish) games


You just have to play absolutely perfectly and get counter harass done somehow. It's near impossible against someone as good as Maru though. I haven't seen anyone be able to do it.

Ideally the way you'd want to play against it is how HerO did it vs Polt at IEM Cologne... but that style is gone now so I don't know.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24582 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#367
MARU
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#368
Rofl

that micro
Community News
TL+ Member
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24582 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#369
unreal damage!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#370
This is so tilting.

Maru just won 3-0.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#371
maru pls
Writermaru pls
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55552 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#372
WTF Maru is imba someone tie one arm behind is back
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
spoonmaster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States347 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#373
MARU OP
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#374
WHAT THAT DROP WHY DO YOU DROP YOUR HELLIONS YOU WERE THROUGH
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 21 2015 10:13 GMT
#375
GG
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-21 10:13:24
May 21 2015 10:13 GMT
#376
On May 21 2015 19:08 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:06 Heartland wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Penev wrote:
Storm would be a good thing to have


He didn't get storm because he instead went with a 3rd without gases in order to produce a big gateway army to be able to defend. That worked so-so

Maybe mixing in some Immortals would've helped? You really need the aoe though..

Immortals suck hard when it comes to bigger fights, stim and heal.

I personally go for 2 robos,1 pumping observers, second pumping colossi. Lately double colossi/immortal productions, depends on how many colossi I have, but to this stage the game never got to.

Basically, against someone like Maru you have to go for super turtle toss, skip upgrades and get fast storm and colossi and BIG hopes that you can survive once you chrono all the upgrades or you go full Parting and be super aggressive
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Calt
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland1140 Posts
May 21 2015 10:13 GMT
#377
On May 21 2015 19:10 dazed25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:09 Calthrash wrote:
Best part about Maru and his style that there is no one else who has been able to replicate it. Makes balance whining pretty much impossible, a lot like Life playing zerg, their skill just goes far beyond their race.


i wanted to see them face off like SC2's flash and jaedong. but denied last season by dream and this season by brackets


Them playing in semifinals is pretty sick as well though! And they are both still in GSL, I'm sure we will eventually get another finals with them both.
Maru | MMA | Ryung | MKP | NaDa | BoxeR | FOREVER SLAYERS
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24582 Posts
May 21 2015 10:13 GMT
#378
now he's got tanks and banshees?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 21 2015 10:13 GMT
#379
that wasn't too bad
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
May 21 2015 10:13 GMT
#380
On May 21 2015 19:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:10 Baadbeat wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:07 SC2Toastie wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Baadbeat wrote:
Maru's drops are so deadly. Hero never could(or would) group up his army and just got outplayed by Maru never knowing where his army is. maybe the answer to Maru is going HT scattered to feedback drops?

Go Maru pls!

HT openings are hard to pull off, especially against somebody THIS agressive. Additionally, the transition is expensive and essentially allows Maru to flat out overrun you....


True, I'm just trying to ponder on a counterplay to Maru's style in Macro(ish) games


You just have to play absolutely perfectly and get counter harass done somehow. It's near impossible against someone as good as Maru though. I haven't seen anyone be able to do it.

Ideally the way you'd want to play against it is how HerO did it vs Polt at IEM Cologne... but that style is gone now so I don't know.

I think the issue with Maru's style is.. terran is a race that rewards mechanical skill more than zerg/protoss, so as mechanical skill increases it just becomes harder and harder to deal with, until finally you get a situation like MaruvP, where he's just so good at a race that rewards being good that it becomes very, very hard to win.

If any of that makes sense at all :p
Writermaru pls
Prev 1 17 18 19 20 21 83 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL Team Wars
19:00
Round 5
Team Dewalt vs Team Sziky
LiquipediaDiscussion
BSL Team Wars
19:00
Round 4
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
LiquipediaDiscussion
Maestros of the Game
16:00
Round of 24 Preliminary Stage
Bunny vs SKillousLIVE!
HeRoMaRinE vs TriGGeR
ComeBackTV 1403
CranKy Ducklings518
IndyStarCraft 302
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 538
IndyStarCraft 302
ProTech88
BRAT_OK 83
Livibee 79
JuggernautJason46
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 26553
firebathero 385
sSak 273
Dewaltoss 118
Mong 82
Stormgate
BeoMulf116
Counter-Strike
fl0m3767
gobbtv531
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King66
Other Games
qojqva2717
Grubby1702
FrodaN1526
B2W.Neo1149
Sick267
Hui .235
mouzStarbuck205
ViBE32
MindelVK26
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1378
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki33
• Pr0nogo 17
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler80
Counter-Strike
• imaqtpie822
• Shiphtur209
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
14h 50m
Soulkey vs BeSt
Snow vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
20h 50m
Replay Cast
1d 4h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 14h
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Maru vs SHIN
MaNa vs MaxPax
RSL Revival
4 days
Reynor vs Astrea
Classic vs sOs
[ Show More ]
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
GuMiho vs Cham
ByuN vs TriGGeR
Cosmonarchy
5 days
TriGGeR vs YoungYakov
YoungYakov vs HonMonO
HonMonO vs TriGGeR
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Cure vs Bunny
Creator vs Zoun
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Team Hawk vs Team Sziky
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS1
WardiTV Summer 2025
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
Maestros of the Game
Sisters' Call Cup
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
Skyesports Masters 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.