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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
May 21 2015 10:10 GMT
#361
On May 21 2015 19:09 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:08 Penev wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Heartland wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Penev wrote:
Storm would be a good thing to have


He didn't get storm because he instead went with a 3rd without gases in order to produce a big gateway army to be able to defend. That worked so-so

Maybe mixing in some Immortals would've helped? You really need the aoe though..


Then you get less splash which is what you need vs the barbaric terran hordes

Immortals like shooting marauders though,
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
May 21 2015 10:11 GMT
#362
On May 21 2015 19:10 Baadbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:07 SC2Toastie wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Baadbeat wrote:
Maru's drops are so deadly. Hero never could(or would) group up his army and just got outplayed by Maru never knowing where his army is. maybe the answer to Maru is going HT scattered to feedback drops?

Go Maru pls!

HT openings are hard to pull off, especially against somebody THIS agressive. Additionally, the transition is expensive and essentially allows Maru to flat out overrun you....


True, I'm just trying to ponder on a counterplay to Maru's style in Macro(ish) games


I think Myungsik's build was as close to perfect as you can come but that Myungsik is just a worse player than Maru so he failed
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
May 21 2015 10:11 GMT
#363
On May 21 2015 19:08 The_Templar wrote:
S2SL: RO8 Day 1

(P)herO vs (T)Maru
0-1


Map: King Sejong Station

herO spawns in the bottom right
Maru spawns in the top left

2:00
Gateway/single gas for herO.
Barracks/gas –> marine opening for Maru.

3:00
Maru denies a nexus for a few seconds but it gets down.
Factory for Maru.
herO getting a MSC.

4:00
Widow mine and starport for Maru.
Stalker for herO, no tech yet.

5:00
herO getting a twilight council.
Maru is still on one gas, herO has two.
Maru building a single hellion and a medivac.
Maru about to expand.
herO getting blink.
Maru moves out with some marines which dodge a probe.
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GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#364
The way to beat Maru is to play full Protoss BS like Parting
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28535 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#365
On May 21 2015 19:09 Heartland wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:08 Penev wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Heartland wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Penev wrote:
Storm would be a good thing to have


He didn't get storm because he instead went with a 3rd without gases in order to produce a big gateway army to be able to defend. That worked so-so

Maybe mixing in some Immortals would've helped? You really need the aoe though..


Then you get less splash which is what you need vs the barbaric terran hordes

hmhm
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#366
On May 21 2015 19:10 Baadbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:07 SC2Toastie wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Baadbeat wrote:
Maru's drops are so deadly. Hero never could(or would) group up his army and just got outplayed by Maru never knowing where his army is. maybe the answer to Maru is going HT scattered to feedback drops?

Go Maru pls!

HT openings are hard to pull off, especially against somebody THIS agressive. Additionally, the transition is expensive and essentially allows Maru to flat out overrun you....


True, I'm just trying to ponder on a counterplay to Maru's style in Macro(ish) games


You just have to play absolutely perfectly and get counter harass done somehow. It's near impossible against someone as good as Maru though. I haven't seen anyone be able to do it.

Ideally the way you'd want to play against it is how HerO did it vs Polt at IEM Cologne... but that style is gone now so I don't know.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#367
MARU
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#368
Rofl

that micro
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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#369
unreal damage!
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#370
This is so tilting.

Maru just won 3-0.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#371
maru pls
Writermaru pls
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55586 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#372
WTF Maru is imba someone tie one arm behind is back
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
spoonmaster
Profile Joined May 2012
United States347 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#373
MARU OP
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 21 2015 10:12 GMT
#374
WHAT THAT DROP WHY DO YOU DROP YOUR HELLIONS YOU WERE THROUGH
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 21 2015 10:13 GMT
#375
GG
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12131 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-21 10:13:24
May 21 2015 10:13 GMT
#376
On May 21 2015 19:08 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:06 Heartland wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Penev wrote:
Storm would be a good thing to have


He didn't get storm because he instead went with a 3rd without gases in order to produce a big gateway army to be able to defend. That worked so-so

Maybe mixing in some Immortals would've helped? You really need the aoe though..

Immortals suck hard when it comes to bigger fights, stim and heal.

I personally go for 2 robos,1 pumping observers, second pumping colossi. Lately double colossi/immortal productions, depends on how many colossi I have, but to this stage the game never got to.

Basically, against someone like Maru you have to go for super turtle toss, skip upgrades and get fast storm and colossi and BIG hopes that you can survive once you chrono all the upgrades or you go full Parting and be super aggressive
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Calt
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1140 Posts
May 21 2015 10:13 GMT
#377
On May 21 2015 19:10 dazed25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:09 Calthrash wrote:
Best part about Maru and his style that there is no one else who has been able to replicate it. Makes balance whining pretty much impossible, a lot like Life playing zerg, their skill just goes far beyond their race.


i wanted to see them face off like SC2's flash and jaedong. but denied last season by dream and this season by brackets


Them playing in semifinals is pretty sick as well though! And they are both still in GSL, I'm sure we will eventually get another finals with them both.
Maru | MMA | Ryung | MKP | NaDa | BoxeR | FOREVER SLAYERS
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
May 21 2015 10:13 GMT
#378
now he's got tanks and banshees?
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
May 21 2015 10:13 GMT
#379
that wasn't too bad
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
May 21 2015 10:13 GMT
#380
On May 21 2015 19:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:10 Baadbeat wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:07 SC2Toastie wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Baadbeat wrote:
Maru's drops are so deadly. Hero never could(or would) group up his army and just got outplayed by Maru never knowing where his army is. maybe the answer to Maru is going HT scattered to feedback drops?

Go Maru pls!

HT openings are hard to pull off, especially against somebody THIS agressive. Additionally, the transition is expensive and essentially allows Maru to flat out overrun you....


True, I'm just trying to ponder on a counterplay to Maru's style in Macro(ish) games


You just have to play absolutely perfectly and get counter harass done somehow. It's near impossible against someone as good as Maru though. I haven't seen anyone be able to do it.

Ideally the way you'd want to play against it is how HerO did it vs Polt at IEM Cologne... but that style is gone now so I don't know.

I think the issue with Maru's style is.. terran is a race that rewards mechanical skill more than zerg/protoss, so as mechanical skill increases it just becomes harder and harder to deal with, until finally you get a situation like MaruvP, where he's just so good at a race that rewards being good that it becomes very, very hard to win.

If any of that makes sense at all :p
Writermaru pls
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