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Snorkels
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1015 Posts
May 21 2015 10:13 GMT
#381
I thought hero went afk in main then I hoped he was going to use mine splash to friendly fire the hellion

then that happened
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
May 21 2015 10:14 GMT
#382
That last hellion shot.. I screamed out loud.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
May 21 2015 10:14 GMT
#383
On May 21 2015 19:13 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:08 Penev wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Heartland wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Penev wrote:
Storm would be a good thing to have


He didn't get storm because he instead went with a 3rd without gases in order to produce a big gateway army to be able to defend. That worked so-so

Maybe mixing in some Immortals would've helped? You really need the aoe though..

Immortals suck hard when it comes to bigger fights, stim and heal.

I personally go for 2 robos,1 pumping observers, second pumping colossi. Lately double colossi/immortal productions, depends on how many colossi I have, but to this stage the game never got to.

Basically, against someone like Maru you have to go for super turtle toss, skip upgrades and get fast storm and colossi and BIG hopes that you can survive once you chrono all the upgrades or you go full Parting and be super aggressive

Agree. Need storm
I Protoss winner, could it be?
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
May 21 2015 10:15 GMT
#384
On May 21 2015 19:11 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:08 The_Templar wrote:
S2SL: RO8 Day 1

(P)herO vs (T)Maru
0-1


Map: King Sejong Station

herO spawns in the bottom right
Maru spawns in the top left

2:00
Gateway/single gas for herO.
Barracks/gas –> marine opening for Maru.

3:00
Maru denies a nexus for a few seconds but it gets down.
Factory for Maru.
herO getting a MSC.

4:00
Widow mine and starport for Maru.
Stalker for herO, no tech yet.

5:00
herO getting a twilight council.
Maru is still on one gas, herO has two.
Maru building a single hellion and a medivac.
Maru about to expand.
herO getting blink.
Maru moves out with some marines which dodge a probe.

6:00
Maru moves out with a drop which the probe misses.
Marines move into herO's natural and kill three probes.
Hellions and dropped into the main along with a mine. 9 more probes fall. There is no detection.
Robotics facility for herO.

7:00 (P)herO 46 vs (T)Maru 45
Photon overcharge was also used in the natural.
Observer on the way.
The widow mine snags another four probes.
Blink is almost done.

8:00 (P)herO 49 vs (T)Maru 50
Dark shrine for herO.
Maru getting a banshee and a siege tank.
Maru is building a missile turret.
Maru runs into the the natural with a banshee while photon overcharge is still active.
herO tries an attack which is very temporarily stopped by a mine.

9:00 (P)herO 62 vs (T)Maru 59
herO adding two gateways.
Banshee sneaking around to herO's main. The dark shrine is spotted.
Raven for Maru.
DT being warped in near Maru's main with a warp prism.
A scan and marines dispose of the DT immediately.
herO saves his DTs somehow.
Third being taken by herO.
Robotics bay finishing up, and double forge starting.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 21 2015 10:15 GMT
#385
Interesting that herO always responds with DTs
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
May 21 2015 10:15 GMT
#386
Fucking lag not now pls
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Snorkels
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1015 Posts
May 21 2015 10:16 GMT
#387
On May 21 2015 19:13 Soularion wrote:
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On May 21 2015 19:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:10 Baadbeat wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:07 SC2Toastie wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:06 Baadbeat wrote:
Maru's drops are so deadly. Hero never could(or would) group up his army and just got outplayed by Maru never knowing where his army is. maybe the answer to Maru is going HT scattered to feedback drops?

Go Maru pls!

HT openings are hard to pull off, especially against somebody THIS agressive. Additionally, the transition is expensive and essentially allows Maru to flat out overrun you....


True, I'm just trying to ponder on a counterplay to Maru's style in Macro(ish) games


You just have to play absolutely perfectly and get counter harass done somehow. It's near impossible against someone as good as Maru though. I haven't seen anyone be able to do it.

Ideally the way you'd want to play against it is how HerO did it vs Polt at IEM Cologne... but that style is gone now so I don't know.

I think the issue with Maru's style is.. terran is a race that rewards mechanical skill more than zerg/protoss, so as mechanical skill increases it just becomes harder and harder to deal with, until finally you get a situation like MaruvP, where he's just so good at a race that rewards being good that it becomes very, very hard to win.

If any of that makes sense at all :p
and Maru's only 17. think about when the best of bw came into the scene
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 21 2015 10:16 GMT
#388
On May 21 2015 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
Interesting that herO always responds with DTs


You have to get counterdamage done somehow, DTs are great at defending drops and slowing terran down. Just quite expensive
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
May 21 2015 10:17 GMT
#389
Thats right moonglade, you didnt hear DK thought it would be better if Protoss had only 1 main tech path that was good vs his new unit that he relies on (wm). The game is more interesting to DK this way.
*burp*
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
May 21 2015 10:17 GMT
#390
now let's see if he can get the HT transition
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 21 2015 10:17 GMT
#391
On May 21 2015 19:16 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:15 Pandemona wrote:
Interesting that herO always responds with DTs


You have to get counterdamage done somehow, DTs are great at defending drops and slowing terran down. Just quite expensive

Yeah was thinking like in total it equals 1 colli right? But i guess if you don't know herOs style (which i guess Maru does as he made turret insta after harass in game 1) then it catches u with pants down
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
May 21 2015 10:17 GMT
#392
On May 21 2015 19:15 GumBa wrote:
Fucking lag not now pls

Sure it's your internet? Is it both on Twitch and Azubu?
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Snorkels
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1015 Posts
May 21 2015 10:17 GMT
#393
just live for 3 minutes to storm. herO!
fastr
Profile Joined February 2011
France902 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-21 10:18:36
May 21 2015 10:18 GMT
#394
I think herO got this one
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2634 Posts
May 21 2015 10:18 GMT
#395
I can't tell who's ahead T___T
Jangbi favorite player. Forever~ CJ herO the King of IEM. BOMBERRRRRRRR. Sexy Boy Rogue. soO #1! Oliveira China Represent!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 21 2015 10:18 GMT
#396
On May 21 2015 19:17 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:15 GumBa wrote:
Fucking lag not now pls

Sure it's your internet? Is it both on Twitch and Azubu?

Im not lagging on twitch?
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
May 21 2015 10:19 GMT
#397
On May 21 2015 19:15 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:11 The_Templar wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:08 The_Templar wrote:
S2SL: RO8 Day 1

(P)herO vs (T)Maru
0-1


Map: King Sejong Station

herO spawns in the bottom right
Maru spawns in the top left

2:00
Gateway/single gas for herO.
Barracks/gas –> marine opening for Maru.

3:00
Maru denies a nexus for a few seconds but it gets down.
Factory for Maru.
herO getting a MSC.

4:00
Widow mine and starport for Maru.
Stalker for herO, no tech yet.

5:00
herO getting a twilight council.
Maru is still on one gas, herO has two.
Maru building a single hellion and a medivac.
Maru about to expand.
herO getting blink.
Maru moves out with some marines which dodge a probe.

6:00
Maru moves out with a drop which the probe misses.
Marines move into herO's natural and kill three probes.
Hellions and dropped into the main along with a mine. 9 more probes fall. There is no detection.
Robotics facility for herO.

7:00 (P)herO 46 vs (T)Maru 45
Photon overcharge was also used in the natural.
Observer on the way.
The widow mine snags another four probes.
Blink is almost done.

8:00 (P)herO 49 vs (T)Maru 50
Dark shrine for herO.
Maru getting a banshee and a siege tank.
Maru is building a missile turret.
Maru runs into the the natural with a banshee while photon overcharge is still active.
herO tries an attack which is very temporarily stopped by a mine.

9:00 (P)herO 62 vs (T)Maru 59
herO adding two gateways.
Banshee sneaking around to herO's main. The dark shrine is spotted.
Raven for Maru.
DT being warped in near Maru's main with a warp prism.
A scan and marines dispose of the DT immediately.
herO saves his DTs somehow.
Third being taken by herO.
Robotics bay finishing up, and double forge starting.

12:00 (P)herO 84 vs (T)Maru 82
Colossus production begins.
Charge for herO.
Maru getting +1/1, herO hasn't started his yet.
+1/1 for herO.
Maru getting concussive shells and combat shields as well as stim.
Armory for Maru as +1/1 finishes up.

13:00 (P)herO 108 vs (T)Maru 114
Actually, +1 armor is like half done for Maru, +1 attack is finishing up.
A banshee is picked off after is kills three probes.
Maru has a third that's not really mining much.
herO killed his back door rocks.

14:00 (P)herO 124 vs (T)Maru 136
Maru goes for a drop which is seen by a pylon.
Templar archives for herO.
Maru picks off an observer.
+2 attack is 1/3 done when +2 armor starts for Maru.
+2/2 for herO.
Colossi are still being produced.
A tank is insufficient defense for five zealots in Maru's third.
herO chases down and destroys a bio squad.
Maru regrouping at the center base.
Neither player is past +1/1 yet.
A colossus is out of position as herO moves out.
Maru has zero vikings.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Snorkels
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-21 10:19:50
May 21 2015 10:19 GMT
#398
3-3 storm timing

if they have nrg by then
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-21 10:20:29
May 21 2015 10:19 GMT
#399
On May 21 2015 19:18 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 19:17 Penev wrote:
On May 21 2015 19:15 GumBa wrote:
Fucking lag not now pls

Sure it's your internet? Is it both on Twitch and Azubu?

Im not lagging on twitch?

I'm not lagging on Azubu

But Twitch can lag on certain IP ranges and not on others
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
May 21 2015 10:20 GMT
#400
How useless are zealots ? lol
*burp*
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