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On January 10 2015 04:01 aerolol wrote:
Is anyone casting Snute?
Thanks, man!
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
NaNiwa, you're guilty of me knowing now that Spacemarine has awful stream design.
God dammit.
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On January 10 2015 04:00 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 03:58 Tenks wrote:On January 10 2015 03:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Watch Nani, or take a dump I've been holding in all morning?
Fuck you colon, StarCraft is on. You need to invest in a tablet bro No pls then I'll never get off the toilet. I'm already shitting three times a day, I need a reason to do something else too.
Can't argue with that
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On January 10 2015 04:01 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 04:01 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:58 KeksX wrote:On January 10 2015 03:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:54 KeksX wrote:On January 10 2015 03:51 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:48 Penev wrote:On January 10 2015 03:46 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:43 Penev wrote:On January 10 2015 03:42 chipmonklord17 wrote:
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He has every right to stop spouting nonsense. Even if there was a rule against refusal they openly allowed Harstem to refuse, setting the precedent that a player could refuse.
Not to mention it was talked about on stream that the mod told Nani he could refuse in the first place The admin also said that he shouldn't have allowed that apparently.. Regardless of if he retroactively said he shouldn't have he did. And the precedent was there from yesterday. "I disagree with Naniwa's decision" and "he has no right" are completely different things I actually don't know what the rules are on this. No one does. I think there should be a rule however, that you let your games being streamed by at least one streamer. This is a sport. It needs spectators. Again, what the rules are or are not is largely irrelevant at this point. Players were allowed to refuse casting in previous days qualifiers, whether it was against the rules or not, so you (meaning the tournament staff) can't now refuse the same request after setting the precedent. Let alone be dicks about it. You realize that your principle of precedents is mainly a U.S. American thing? In (most of the) EU most things are handled on a case by case basis. Never in my life have I heard that. Still stand by what I said though. Especially the not being a dick about it part That surprises me. In Germany for example, precedents mean almost nothing. Best you can do is refer to that, but one ruling does not automatically make the law "inactive". So yeah, I think it's reasonable to start going by the rules, even if you said something else before(by mistake). I agree with whoever said it earlier that the best thing to do would be say "from now on you can't refuse" (if that is in fact a rule). But forcing Nani or being a dick to him about it just is bullshit. All Rifkin said is that he's not going to deal with it anymore. Hardly being a dick to him. I agree though, from now on nobody should be able to refuse to be streamed.
He's certainly made it sound like Naniwa is doing the devil's work (slight hyperbole), which hasn't been the kindest thing. Especially after giving the whole "I totally understand" speech when it came to harstem.
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On January 10 2015 04:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
NaNiwa, you're guilty of me knowing now that Spacemarine has awful stream design.
God dammit.
Haha, yeah
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Hello folks. This is the WCS Handbook from 2014 (update for 2015 in progress): http://media.blizzard.com/sc2/media/downloads/WCS-Player-Handbook.pdf
Here's a quote from it on page 32 which deals with the streaming of qualifiers: "The shoutcaster must receive permission from both players to broadcast if the game is being
broadcast on a non-official World Championship Series Qualifier stream;"
Currently, all of these streams are unofficial, so NaNiwa can refuse spectators.
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United States97277 Posts
how is the naniwa hype going?
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Yeah you'd think for that being his team branded overlay they'd at least have shit in the correct area. Is this like a LoL overlay or something that he's just using for SC2?
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On January 10 2015 04:05 JoshSuth wrote:Hello folks. This is the WCS Handbook from 2014 (update for 2015 in progress): http://media.blizzard.com/sc2/media/downloads/WCS-Player-Handbook.pdfHere's a quote from it on page 32 which deals with the streaming of qualifiers: "The shoutcaster must receive permission from both players to broadcast if the game is being broadcast on a non-official World Championship Series Qualifier stream;" Currently, all of these streams are unofficial, so NaNiwa can refuse spectators.
Ok, thanks. Weird though..
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On January 10 2015 04:05 JoshSuth wrote:Hello folks. This is the WCS Handbook from 2014 (update for 2015 in progress): http://media.blizzard.com/sc2/media/downloads/WCS-Player-Handbook.pdfHere's a quote from it on page 32 which deals with the streaming of qualifiers: "The shoutcaster must receive permission from both players to broadcast if the game is being broadcast on a non-official World Championship Series Qualifier stream;" Currently, all of these streams are unofficial, so NaNiwa can refuse spectators.
TaKeTV and WCS_RU are official. Anyway, this just further proofes, that he has every right to refuse Basetrade.
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REKT!
"I had the game" LOL!
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On January 10 2015 04:05 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 04:01 KeksX wrote:On January 10 2015 04:01 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:58 KeksX wrote:On January 10 2015 03:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:54 KeksX wrote:On January 10 2015 03:51 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:48 Penev wrote:On January 10 2015 03:46 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:43 Penev wrote:
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The admin also said that he shouldn't have allowed that apparently.. Regardless of if he retroactively said he shouldn't have he did. And the precedent was there from yesterday. "I disagree with Naniwa's decision" and "he has no right" are completely different things I actually don't know what the rules are on this. No one does. I think there should be a rule however, that you let your games being streamed by at least one streamer. This is a sport. It needs spectators. Again, what the rules are or are not is largely irrelevant at this point. Players were allowed to refuse casting in previous days qualifiers, whether it was against the rules or not, so you (meaning the tournament staff) can't now refuse the same request after setting the precedent. Let alone be dicks about it. You realize that your principle of precedents is mainly a U.S. American thing? In (most of the) EU most things are handled on a case by case basis. Never in my life have I heard that. Still stand by what I said though. Especially the not being a dick about it part That surprises me. In Germany for example, precedents mean almost nothing. Best you can do is refer to that, but one ruling does not automatically make the law "inactive". So yeah, I think it's reasonable to start going by the rules, even if you said something else before(by mistake). I agree with whoever said it earlier that the best thing to do would be say "from now on you can't refuse" (if that is in fact a rule). But forcing Nani or being a dick to him about it just is bullshit. All Rifkin said is that he's not going to deal with it anymore. Hardly being a dick to him. I agree though, from now on nobody should be able to refuse to be streamed. He's certainly made it sound like Naniwa is doing the devil's work (slight hyperbole), which hasn't been the kindest thing. Especially after giving the whole "I totally understand" speech when it came to harstem.
Well as I said I don't really care about the Harstem thing. I'm just pointing out that objectively, he was just upset over it but didn't tell anyone to get his pitchforks out or anything.
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On January 10 2015 04:07 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 04:05 JoshSuth wrote:Hello folks. This is the WCS Handbook from 2014 (update for 2015 in progress): http://media.blizzard.com/sc2/media/downloads/WCS-Player-Handbook.pdfHere's a quote from it on page 32 which deals with the streaming of qualifiers: "The shoutcaster must receive permission from both players to broadcast if the game is being broadcast on a non-official World Championship Series Qualifier stream;" Currently, all of these streams are unofficial, so NaNiwa can refuse spectators. TaKeTV and WCS_RU are official. Anyway, this just further proofes, that he has every right to refuse Basetrade.
lol so rifkin all hating on Naniwa
but not on Harstem
whats up rifkin blasting Naniwa
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On January 10 2015 04:05 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 04:01 KeksX wrote:On January 10 2015 04:01 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:58 KeksX wrote:On January 10 2015 03:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:54 KeksX wrote:On January 10 2015 03:51 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:48 Penev wrote:On January 10 2015 03:46 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:43 Penev wrote:
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The admin also said that he shouldn't have allowed that apparently.. Regardless of if he retroactively said he shouldn't have he did. And the precedent was there from yesterday. "I disagree with Naniwa's decision" and "he has no right" are completely different things I actually don't know what the rules are on this. No one does. I think there should be a rule however, that you let your games being streamed by at least one streamer. This is a sport. It needs spectators. Again, what the rules are or are not is largely irrelevant at this point. Players were allowed to refuse casting in previous days qualifiers, whether it was against the rules or not, so you (meaning the tournament staff) can't now refuse the same request after setting the precedent. Let alone be dicks about it. You realize that your principle of precedents is mainly a U.S. American thing? In (most of the) EU most things are handled on a case by case basis. Never in my life have I heard that. Still stand by what I said though. Especially the not being a dick about it part That surprises me. In Germany for example, precedents mean almost nothing. Best you can do is refer to that, but one ruling does not automatically make the law "inactive". So yeah, I think it's reasonable to start going by the rules, even if you said something else before(by mistake). I agree with whoever said it earlier that the best thing to do would be say "from now on you can't refuse" (if that is in fact a rule). But forcing Nani or being a dick to him about it just is bullshit. All Rifkin said is that he's not going to deal with it anymore. Hardly being a dick to him. I agree though, from now on nobody should be able to refuse to be streamed. He's certainly made it sound like Naniwa is doing the devil's work (slight hyperbole), which hasn't been the kindest thing. Especially after giving the whole "I totally understand" speech when it came to harstem.
Quite they hyperbole. If there was a tone of frustration it was with how long the admins took to respond while we were waiting for a game (very frustrating to have downtime in general) and that the other player wanted to be streamed, apparently.
Sitting there listening to it I thought it was mostly glossed over. 'We're trying' 'damn this sucks' 'idk if he's allowed to do this' 'okay the admin was wrong that's kind of dumb' 'let's move on and not talk about it' was turned into drammmmaaaa.
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On January 10 2015 04:07 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:
REKT!
"I had the game" LOL!
It seemed like Douchemarine was in the lead at the start then threw some units away going up the ramp. But I'm a Terran player so wtf do I know about pvp.
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On January 10 2015 04:07 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2015 04:05 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 04:01 KeksX wrote:On January 10 2015 04:01 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:58 KeksX wrote:On January 10 2015 03:56 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:54 KeksX wrote:On January 10 2015 03:51 chipmonklord17 wrote:On January 10 2015 03:48 Penev wrote:On January 10 2015 03:46 chipmonklord17 wrote:
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Regardless of if he retroactively said he shouldn't have he did. And the precedent was there from yesterday. "I disagree with Naniwa's decision" and "he has no right" are completely different things I actually don't know what the rules are on this. No one does. I think there should be a rule however, that you let your games being streamed by at least one streamer. This is a sport. It needs spectators. Again, what the rules are or are not is largely irrelevant at this point. Players were allowed to refuse casting in previous days qualifiers, whether it was against the rules or not, so you (meaning the tournament staff) can't now refuse the same request after setting the precedent. Let alone be dicks about it. You realize that your principle of precedents is mainly a U.S. American thing? In (most of the) EU most things are handled on a case by case basis. Never in my life have I heard that. Still stand by what I said though. Especially the not being a dick about it part That surprises me. In Germany for example, precedents mean almost nothing. Best you can do is refer to that, but one ruling does not automatically make the law "inactive". So yeah, I think it's reasonable to start going by the rules, even if you said something else before(by mistake). I agree with whoever said it earlier that the best thing to do would be say "from now on you can't refuse" (if that is in fact a rule). But forcing Nani or being a dick to him about it just is bullshit. All Rifkin said is that he's not going to deal with it anymore. Hardly being a dick to him. I agree though, from now on nobody should be able to refuse to be streamed. He's certainly made it sound like Naniwa is doing the devil's work (slight hyperbole), which hasn't been the kindest thing. Especially after giving the whole "I totally understand" speech when it came to harstem. Well as I said I don't really care about the Harstem thing. I'm just pointing out that objectively, he was just upset over it but didn't tell anyone to get his pitchforks out or anything.
Fair enough. EIther way NAni up 1-0 fuck yea
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1-0 to Naniwa atm, if anyone is interested.
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EPT
NaNiwa 1-0 
