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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 15 2014 17:40 GMT
#121
On October 16 2014 02:37 SC2Towelie wrote:
Interesting style from Scarlett. 2 base muta into roach/hydra and then vipers and broodlords. I wonder if infestors would've worked better than vipers early on though. Bunny didn't really have a lot of tanks, just a ton of bio.


If by interesting you mean "kind of crap", then it was interesting. Bunny also seems to really know that denying the 4th and 5th is the most important thing in dealing with her.
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Alchemik
Profile Joined March 2014
Poland7124 Posts
October 15 2014 17:40 GMT
#122
never go roach/hydra
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
October 15 2014 17:42 GMT
#123
Halo Theme Mjolnir Mix!!!!!!
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 15 2014 17:42 GMT
#124
I know you can't predict one it's started, but 4-1 Bunny I'm saying
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 15 2014 17:43 GMT
#125
Taking inspiration from soulkey.
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SC2Towelie
Profile Joined July 2014
United States561 Posts
October 15 2014 17:44 GMT
#126
On October 16 2014 02:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 02:37 SC2Towelie wrote:
Interesting style from Scarlett. 2 base muta into roach/hydra and then vipers and broodlords. I wonder if infestors would've worked better than vipers early on though. Bunny didn't really have a lot of tanks, just a ton of bio.


If by interesting you mean "kind of crap", then it was interesting. Bunny also seems to really know that denying the 4th and 5th is the most important thing in dealing with her.


Because something doesn't work in one game, it becomes "kind of crap?" I promise you Scarlett wouldn't have used that strategy if it wasn't working in her practice games. Bunny just happened to be completely prepared for it and IMMEDIATELY threw down the starports and started viking production and then went for an attack once his first few vikings were out. I think if Scarlett went for infestors early on instead of vipers she would've been in a great spot. Roach/hydra/infestor is really nice against bio when the terran has no tanks. Then she adds on the broodlords as tanks are coming out and pushes. I have a feeling the game would've looked a lot different if she played it out like that, but obviously it's easy for me to say that being able to see everything that's going on in the game.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 15 2014 17:44 GMT
#127
Uh guys. Scarlett was watching Soulkey stream, saw him do it and decided to try. Then she realized it was the wrong map to use it.
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SC2Towelie
Profile Joined July 2014
United States561 Posts
October 15 2014 17:45 GMT
#128
On October 16 2014 02:40 Alchemik wrote:
never go roach/hydra


Tell that to Hyun...
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SC2Towelie
Profile Joined July 2014
United States561 Posts
October 15 2014 17:46 GMT
#129
On October 16 2014 02:44 stuchiu wrote:
Uh guys. Scarlett was watching Soulkey stream, saw him do it and decided to try. Then she realized it was the wrong map to use it.


I think Nimbus is probably one of the better maps in the pool for a strategy like that, no?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 15 2014 17:46 GMT
#130
On October 16 2014 02:45 SC2Towelie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 02:40 Alchemik wrote:
never go roach/hydra


Tell that to Hyun...

Plus she also beat him with roach hydra once in the first meeting this tournament
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 15 2014 17:47 GMT
#131
On October 16 2014 02:44 SC2Towelie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 02:40 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On October 16 2014 02:37 SC2Towelie wrote:
Interesting style from Scarlett. 2 base muta into roach/hydra and then vipers and broodlords. I wonder if infestors would've worked better than vipers early on though. Bunny didn't really have a lot of tanks, just a ton of bio.


If by interesting you mean "kind of crap", then it was interesting. Bunny also seems to really know that denying the 4th and 5th is the most important thing in dealing with her.


Because something doesn't work in one game, it becomes "kind of crap?" I promise you Scarlett wouldn't have used that strategy if it wasn't working in her practice games. Bunny just happened to be completely prepared for it and IMMEDIATELY threw down the starports and started viking production and then went for an attack once his first few vikings were out. I think if Scarlett went for infestors early on instead of vipers she would've been in a great spot. Roach/hydra/infestor is really nice against bio when the terran has no tanks. Then she adds on the broodlords as tanks are coming out and pushes. I have a feeling the game would've looked a lot different if she played it out like that, but obviously it's easy for me to say that being able to see everything that's going on in the game.


Yes, but the fact that she went for vipers early made it not very good. Infestors, or if she could afford it a combination of vipers and infestors would have been better and not rushing to broodlords would have made it pretty decent.
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 15 2014 17:47 GMT
#132
On October 16 2014 02:45 SC2Towelie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 02:40 Alchemik wrote:
never go roach/hydra


Tell that to Hyun...

Also she beat him with roach hydra in the round robin stages.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 15 2014 17:47 GMT
#133
On October 16 2014 02:46 SC2Towelie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2014 02:44 stuchiu wrote:
Uh guys. Scarlett was watching Soulkey stream, saw him do it and decided to try. Then she realized it was the wrong map to use it.


I think Nimbus is probably one of the better maps in the pool for a strategy like that, no?


Thats what Scarlett said in chat. Either that or what Rotti analyzed it as.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
October 15 2014 17:48 GMT
#134
Attacking his own hellion to get the creep tumor... that's interesting
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SC2Towelie
Profile Joined July 2014
United States561 Posts
October 15 2014 17:50 GMT
#135
TERRAAAAANNNNN xD
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 17:50:58
October 15 2014 17:50 GMT
#136
On October 16 2014 02:48 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Attacking his own hellion to get the creep tumor... that's interesting


You're basically gettnig 270 minerals for shooting you own hellion.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 15 2014 17:51 GMT
#137
this seems to be the build everyone is doing on this map these days
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 15 2014 17:51 GMT
#138
Isn't this the same build heart killed her with?
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 17:51:53
October 15 2014 17:51 GMT
#139
Bunny is just too damn strong.

On October 16 2014 02:51 royalroadweed wrote:
Isn't this the same build heart killed her with?

Bunny's been learning. Scarlett I guess hasn't
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 15 2014 17:51 GMT
#140
On October 16 2014 02:51 royalroadweed wrote:
Isn't this the same build heart killed her with?


good build.
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