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On October 11 2014 04:35 Squat wrote:
Maybe it's a surprise format, number 1 and number 6 advance, and it turns out DMC has just been sandbagging the whole time.
If there was actually a tournament where last place won the prize money, do you think we'd ever see anything besides the players worker rushing their own main?
It'd be a pretty sick metagame if you had the tournament on a super small map (like Steppes of War) and one player worker rushed the other players workers and killed them off so that the opponent couldn't kill his own base... and then the remaining workers ran back home and killed his own base to lose.
I guess insta-leaving/ insta-gging the game wouldn't be permitted.
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On October 11 2014 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 04:35 Squat wrote:
Maybe it's a surprise format, number 1 and number 6 advance, and it turns out DMC has just been sandbagging the whole time. If there was actually a tournament where last place won the prize money, do you think we'd ever see anything besides the players worker rushing their own main? It'd be a pretty sick metagame if you had the tournament on a super small map (like Steppes of War) and one player worker rushed the other players workers and killed them off so that the opponent couldn't kill his own base... and then the remaining workers ran back home and killed his base to lose.
Zerg might be better off 6-pooling to get a spine, I don't know. Must investigate.
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I wonder if Madals or Jorosar read the LR thread, as there's a lot of confusion regarding how ties are broken. It's not even posted in Liquipedia or the OP.
After the series win score (3-2 ties for second place), does it come down to individual game scores?
If Bunny 2-0s DMC (as expected), then he has an 8-4 score in games. Even a 2-1 win puts Bunny at 8-5, which is the best game score after Scarlett.
Nerchio is done at 7-5.
Snute is at 4-5, and can get to 6-5 map score at best.
Bly is at 4-6, and can finish at 6-6 at best.
DMC is out, and Scarlett is already in first place.
So if Bunny beats DMC, this Bly vs. Snute game doesn't matter. But obviously Bly and Snute don't know what's going to happen with Bunny vs. DMC, so both of them want to win to possibly challenge a higher spot for more money. Bly and Snute both already have worse game scores than Nerchio though... so it would seem that either Bunny takes second (with a win over DMC) or Nerchio does (if DMC 2-0s Bunny, as Bunny will only have a 6-6 score), or Nerchio and Bunny tie at 7-5 if Bunny loses 1-2 to DMC.
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/The_Foreign_Hope#Results
Or is there some other tiebreaker format, which makes all this irrelevant ^^;;
EDIT: They're talking about some strange head-to-head format but they sound a bit confused on what's happening... so I guess ignore the game score breakdown lol. Whatever happens, happens... as long as the players understand, I guess. Apparently Bunny will still almost certainly get second anyway.
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The lack of information is a little irritating, that kind of stuff should obviously have been hashed out before the tournament began, and posted in the thread.
Also, Bly's ZvZ looks very blunt, every opponent so far has read his aggressive style like a book.
Edit: Ok, so it doesn't really matter what happens here unless Bunny goes into cardiac arrest or something.
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wow Snute playing so good
that static lol. GG!
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According to Madals, Snute gets second place if Bunny loses to DMC (because Snute beat Nerchio, which breaks their 3-2 series tie, and Bunny won't have a 3-2 score), and Bunny gets second place if Bunny beats DMC (because Bunny beat both Snute and Nerchio). Some head-to-head format thing. So Nerchio definitely can't make it to the grand finals.
Also, Madals just said that the grand finals will be played sometime next week.
Also, DMC is necessarily last place, even if he 2-0s Bunny.
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France7248 Posts
well, if it's head to head, Snute can still be 2nd, if its map, he can't...
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On October 11 2014 05:13 Yhamm wrote:
well, if it's head to head, Snute can still be 2nd, if its map, he can't...
Madals just said head to head so that should be it. Nerchio is out, next match decides whether it's Bunny or Snute as 2nd
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France7248 Posts
yeah just heard, its h2h before map scores
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Yup 
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allright so its the next match that decides who gets 2nd-- let's go DMC! I want Snute in the finals
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I consider DMC beating Bunny to be even less likely than his beating Snute.
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On October 11 2014 05:14 Yhamm wrote:
yeah just heard, its h2h before map scores
I'm a little worried that the players weren't aware of the format, because at the beginning of Snute vs. Bly, Madals said that both players insisted that they were playing for fourth place, which isn't actually true (and Madals didn't correct that misunderstanding)... Snute can still get 2nd or 3rd (and could have gotten 5th if he got 2-0ed by Bly).
After Snute beat Bly, things become a lot clearer with more results and Madals's clarification regarding head-to-head score. I just hope all the players understood the rules, because we certainly weren't aware of them.
Liquipedia is now updated with the rules
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yeah DMC looks totally outplayed here, Bunny in another league
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Bunny up 1-0! One more game to make it to the GF.
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Madals says that Scarlett vs. Bunny grand finals will be played *probably* this Wednesday (10/15).
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Im pretty happy with a scarlett vs bunny finals. After wcs America Scarlett won't have to hold back at all and she probably wont drop a map this time.
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On October 11 2014 06:05 SlammerIV wrote:
Im pretty happy with a scarlett vs bunny finals. After wcs America Scarlett won't have to hold back at all and she probably wont drop a map this time.
You're vastly underrating Bunny.
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Feels like the two best players went through, as it should be.
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On October 11 2014 06:08 Squat wrote:
Feels like the two best players went through, as it should be.
Agreed.
Thanks Madals and Jorosar for casting!
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