EPTZest is playing very well to counter maru and we see that mines are really effective now against protoss army making colossus essential to defend. Pretty sure most of protoss would long die to maru's bio-attack
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
Zest is playing very well to counter maru and we see that mines are really effective now against protoss army making colossus essential to defend. Pretty sure most of protoss would long die to maru's bio-attack | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On July 28 2014 20:29 sharkie wrote: Why doesn't Maru expand more btw? He is such an aggressive player, the protoss would never have a chance to counterattack the early fourth I think Maru even cuts SCvs to make this aggressive moves, which means he hasnt really any spare minerals to expand. When he cuts units for a CC he misses almost a medivac of units and has much less units to be aggressive with | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On July 28 2014 20:28 Foreverkul wrote: Well minus multiple colossus snipe, Nexus snipe, late 3rd, fighting up a ramp against a planetary. Other than that, sure  Well in fairness, Maru also gifted 2 full drop ships whilst he was sniping those collossus and for whatever reason didn't really control his units at that planetary fight... | ||
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
I'm not sure I agree. :/ | ||
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Estancia
Korea (South)335 Posts
The army with 10+ vikings didn't face any colossus, only storms. It was really good response from zest's part too. | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Foreverkul
United States1649 Posts
On July 28 2014 20:29 sharkie wrote: Why doesn't Maru expand more btw? He is such an aggressive player, the protoss would never have a chance to counterattack the early fourth Terran can't hold multiple bases because they have no static defense or local unit production (ie zerg has larva at every hatch, protoss have warp ins) | ||
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sharkie
Austria18552 Posts
On July 28 2014 20:30 TheDwf wrote: You don't benefit from an early fourth until your main is nearly exhausted. Oh terrans have full production on three mining bases? :o No wonder they always stay on three bases | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On July 28 2014 20:29 sharkie wrote: Why doesn't Maru expand more btw? He is such an aggressive player, the protoss would never have a chance to counterattack the early fourth I've thought about it too. Probably because he's semi-all in the entire game, having to do enough damage to justify his extremely late transition to ghost/viking. So he probably feels that his pressure is weakened by putting money towards more bases Or, you know, what Dwf said :D | ||
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jellyjello
Korea (South)664 Posts
On July 28 2014 20:30 BlackCompany wrote: I think Maru even cuts SCvs to make this aggressive moves, which means he hasnt really any spare minerals to expand. When he cuts units for a CC he misses almost a medivac of units and has much less units to be aggressive with Yeah, Maru planned to finish the game right there. I don't think he plan to go over 3 CCs. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9408 Posts
On July 28 2014 20:30 Big J wrote: He should have formed a concave at the ramp imo, force out 2-3 storms and retreat to the PF. Then Zest will be running low on Templar energy. Though I think he just didn't have enough anymore to really make that concave happen to begin with... Tough spot when you are running low on army. But I think Zest didn't have to commit to storm his army there since his army was so much stronger. He could have engaged up the ramp quite easily with 1-2 storms and Maru wouldn't be able to get a good engagement there (just wasing a stim there wouldn't be ideal either). Instead, I believe Maru was forced to rely on the planetary for backup defense. It would have been a different story had he not taken the fight at Zest's 4th. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On July 28 2014 20:29 DarkLordOlli wrote: What on earth. Maru lost most of his vikings to storm, not blink stalkers. I laughed :D | ||
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yoshi245
United States2972 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Gullis
Sweden740 Posts
On July 28 2014 20:30 Yiome wrote: I don't understand the whine here Zest is playing very well to counter maru and we see that mines are really effective now against protoss army making colossus essential to defend. Pretty sure most of protoss would long die to maru's bio-attack I think the casters over hyped marus play/position, zest was keeping up. | ||
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
On July 28 2014 20:31 jellyjello wrote: Yeah, Maru planned to finish the game right there. I don't think he plan to go over 3 CCs. I would do that too if i could play like that tbh :p IF you are that good you can expect to win even vs the best, Zest had really strong defense and still almost died | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On July 28 2014 20:31 sharkie wrote: Oh terrans have full production on three mining bases? :o No wonder they always stay on three bases In SC2 you take 4th and beyond for gas. If you don't need the gas, then you can expand once you are out of minerals in your main  Somewhere here is the science behind this, soft mining cap on 3 bases. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
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Yiome
China1687 Posts
On July 28 2014 20:31 Foreverkul wrote: Terran can't hold multiple bases because they have no static defense or local unit production (ie zerg has larva at every hatch, protoss have warp ins) There is something called planetary fortress... | ||
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