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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25445 Posts
July 23 2014 12:49 GMT
#381
Argh, that said Leenock played pretty well there. I don't mean to disparage players either but why couldn't both he and Effort show such chops against P?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-23 12:53:57
July 23 2014 12:53 GMT
#382
On July 23 2014 21:47 Topdoller wrote:
Persistently going Mech, is setting yourself up for a fall if the opposition knows how to deal with it. HOTS is just not mech friendly. It's slow, the maps are bad and the units in the game wreck it with ease. lennock isn't exactly in top for, but he knew how to kill it with ease, imho


He just abused mistakes Supernova made. Nothing more. Those 2 games had nothing to do how good or bad mech is. Like the positioning of Supernova's units was so bad. For example Leenock was able to snipe Supernova's 6th refinery like 3 times in a row. No turret or Thor standing there. He was able to pick 2 Thors with burrow with minimal loses. Then again, Supernova got caught underprepared for mutas. He let his Raven die and never rebuild it and went on to attack on creep. The list is endless. Of course Leenock just won. Lets move on, this was just so bad.

FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 23 2014 12:53 GMT
#383
the hell was that Leenock? :/
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
July 23 2014 12:53 GMT
#384
On July 23 2014 21:53 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
the hell was that Leenock? :/


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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 23 2014 12:54 GMT
#385
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cmdspinner1
Profile Joined February 2014
140 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-23 13:01:05
July 23 2014 12:55 GMT
#386
On July 23 2014 21:53 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 21:47 Topdoller wrote:
Persistently going Mech, is setting yourself up for a fall if the opposition knows how to deal with it. HOTS is just not mech friendly. It's slow, the maps are bad and the units in the game wreck it with ease. lennock isn't exactly in top for, but he knew how to kill it with ease, imho


He just abused mistakes Supernova made. Nothing more. Those 2 games had nothing to do how good or bad mech is. Like the positioning of Supernova's units was so bad. For example Leenock was able to snipe Supernova's 6th refinery like 3 times in a row. No turret or Thor standing there. He was able to pick 2 Thors with burrow with minimal loses. Then again, Supernova got caught underprepared for mutas. He let his Raven die and never rebuild it and went on to attack on creep. The list is endless. Of course Leenock just won. Lets move on, this was just so bad.



It is extremely hard to defend your third on merry go round, because its so open. I bet most mech players veto it.

Edit: You are right though, you cannot make many mistakes with mech
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
July 23 2014 13:01 GMT
#387
Gogo EffOrt!
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-23 13:03:09
July 23 2014 13:01 GMT
#388
On July 23 2014 21:55 cmdspinner1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 21:53 Everlong wrote:
On July 23 2014 21:47 Topdoller wrote:
Persistently going Mech, is setting yourself up for a fall if the opposition knows how to deal with it. HOTS is just not mech friendly. It's slow, the maps are bad and the units in the game wreck it with ease. lennock isn't exactly in top for, but he knew how to kill it with ease, imho


He just abused mistakes Supernova made. Nothing more. Those 2 games had nothing to do how good or bad mech is. Like the positioning of Supernova's units was so bad. For example Leenock was able to snipe Supernova's 6th refinery like 3 times in a row. No turret or Thor standing there. He was able to pick 2 Thors with burrow with minimal loses. Then again, Supernova got caught underprepared for mutas. He let his Raven die and never rebuild it and went on to attack on creep. The list is endless. Of course Leenock just won. Lets move on, this was just so bad.



It is extremely hard to defend your third on merry go round, because its so open. I bet most mech players veto it.


Yes, that is true, but he had the units right there. I see this happening all the time. Mech players positioning their units in a way Zerg can easily abuse it (either snipe key structures, or the units themselves - both happened in both games here). Obviously Supernova is a good player, but it's not hard to build 1-2 additional turrets in key locations, or build a sensor tower. On such large map, it's pretty obvious Zerg will try to drag out the game. And as a mech player, you should not really be looking to close it asap anyways. Do we agree?
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 23 2014 13:02 GMT
#389
Leenock wtf
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Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
July 23 2014 13:03 GMT
#390
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
July 23 2014 13:04 GMT
#391
noooooo kespa why are you so strong?
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 23 2014 13:04 GMT
#392
Ugh, bye bye liquibet rank1
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Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
July 23 2014 13:04 GMT
#393
If Effort could fix his ZvP, he could go far this GSL
cmdspinner1
Profile Joined February 2014
140 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-23 13:05:33
July 23 2014 13:05 GMT
#394
On July 23 2014 22:01 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 21:55 cmdspinner1 wrote:
On July 23 2014 21:53 Everlong wrote:
On July 23 2014 21:47 Topdoller wrote:
Persistently going Mech, is setting yourself up for a fall if the opposition knows how to deal with it. HOTS is just not mech friendly. It's slow, the maps are bad and the units in the game wreck it with ease. lennock isn't exactly in top for, but he knew how to kill it with ease, imho


He just abused mistakes Supernova made. Nothing more. Those 2 games had nothing to do how good or bad mech is. Like the positioning of Supernova's units was so bad. For example Leenock was able to snipe Supernova's 6th refinery like 3 times in a row. No turret or Thor standing there. He was able to pick 2 Thors with burrow with minimal loses. Then again, Supernova got caught underprepared for mutas. He let his Raven die and never rebuild it and went on to attack on creep. The list is endless. Of course Leenock just won. Lets move on, this was just so bad.



It is extremely hard to defend your third on merry go round, because its so open. I bet most mech players veto it.


Yes, that is true, but he had the units right there. I see this happening all the time. Mech players positioning their units in a way Zerg can easily abuse it (either snipe key structures, or the units themselves - both happened in both games here). Obviously Supernova is a good player, but it's not hard to build 1-2 additional turrets in key locations, or build a sensor tower. On such large map, it's pretty obvious Zerg will try to drag out the game. And as a mech player, you should not really be looking to close it asap. Do we agree?


I agree he did not play perfect, but especially on this map, mech is just unforgiving against zerg. He wanted a timing but it didnt work because he didnt do enough ealry damage. Then he should have turtled hardcore. But this is really difficult on this map, because you need a fourth.
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3380 Posts
July 23 2014 13:05 GMT
#395
well done
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shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 23 2014 13:05 GMT
#396
The curse is real!
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
July 23 2014 13:05 GMT
#397
--- Nuked ---
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
July 23 2014 13:07 GMT
#398
On July 23 2014 22:04 Topdoller wrote:
If Effort could fix his ZvP, he could go far this GSL


With how good his P practice partners are I don't understand how it's so bad.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 23 2014 13:11 GMT
#399
On July 23 2014 22:07 AWalker9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2014 22:04 Topdoller wrote:
If Effort could fix his ZvP, he could go far this GSL


With how good his P practice partners are I don't understand how it's so bad.


Maybe getting repeatedly destroyed in practice has lowered his confidence for the matchup
Zerg for Life
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 23 2014 13:11 GMT
#400
I don't think I have ever seen Artosis+Wolf, they make a pretty good cast together - surely it's missing a little bit of action, but they can really discuss what's going on.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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