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						 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/IDZtYky.png) Wednesday, Jul 23 9:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_3/Code_A TL Preview: Click Here 
 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/r9ZH0.png) ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/7/7f/Twitch_ico.png) GOMeXP On July 22 2014 18:08 Wolf wrote:I'll be casting with Artosis tomorrow
 
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  Leenock vs  Terminator Starting Map: King Sejong Station ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/26.jpg)  ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/players/581.jpg) 
  SuperNova vs  EffOrt Starting Map: Nimbus 
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 Poll: Recommend Leenock vs Terminator Game 2Bad Game (3)    50%Meh Game  (2)    33%Excellent Game  (1)    17%Good Game  (0)    0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Leenock vs Terminator Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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 Poll: Recommend Leenock vs Terminator Game 3Good Game (3)    50%Excellent Game  (1)    17%Meh Game  (1)    17%Bad Game  (1)    17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Leenock vs Terminator Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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+ Show Spoiler [Winners Match] +Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs EffOrt Game 1Good Game (7)    78%Excellent Game  (1)    11%Meh Game  (1)    11%Bad Game  (0)    0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs EffOrt Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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 Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs EffOrt Game 2Good Game (6)    75%Excellent Game  (2)    25%Meh Game  (0)    0%Bad Game  (0)    0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs EffOrt Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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 Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs EffOrt Game 3Bad Game (6)    67%Meh Game  (3)    33%Excellent Game  (0)    0%Good Game  (0)    0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs EffOrt Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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+ Show Spoiler [Losers Match] +Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 1Good Game (6)    50%Excellent Game  (4)    33%Meh Game  (2)    17%Bad Game  (0)    0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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 Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 2Meh Game (3)    38%Good Game  (3)    38%Excellent Game  (1)    13%Bad Game  (1)    13% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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 Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 3Excellent Game (1)    25%Good Game  (1)    25%Meh Game  (1)    25%Bad Game  (1)    25% 4 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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+ Show Spoiler [Final Match] +Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 1Meh Game (3)    100%Excellent Game  (0)    0%Good Game  (0)    0%Bad Game  (0)    0% 3 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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 Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 2Good Game (5)    50%Excellent Game  (4)    40%Meh Game  (1)    10%Bad Game  (0)    0% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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 Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 3Meh Game (3)    60%Good Game  (1)    20%Bad Game  (1)    20%Excellent Game  (0)    0% 5 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 1Meh Game (2)    100%Excellent Game  (0)    0%Good Game  (0)    0%Bad Game  (0)    0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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 Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 2Meh Game (1)    50%Bad Game  (1)    50%Excellent Game  (0)    0%Good Game  (0)    0% 2 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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 Poll: Recommend Final Match Game 3Bad Game (1)    100%Excellent Game  (0)    0%Good Game  (0)    0%Meh Game  (0)    0% 1 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Match Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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						 Poll: Who Advances?Leenock & SuperNova (8)    44%SuperNova & EffOrt  (4)    22%Leenock & Terminator  (3)    17%Leenock & EffOrt  (2)    11%EffOrt & Terminator  (1)    6%SuperNova & Terminator  (0)    0% 18 total votes Your vote: Who Advances? (Vote): Leenock & SuperNova(Vote): EffOrt & Terminator
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				I'll be casting with Artosis tomorrow 
			
		
		
	 
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				Terminator > LeenockEffOrt > SuperNova
 EffOrt > Terminator
 Leenock > SuperNova
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				ez grup for supernova, go Terraaaannn
			
		
	 
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				I believe in you Leenock ^^
			
		
		
	 
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				Hi everyone, cuddles.
 Gogo Effort!! I don't like Supernova but I suspect he will come in second.
 
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				Poor SuNo, he's gotta start up against the ZvT beast EffOrt.
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				Oh hey, Dear streams now too? 
 Why he gotta do that during Code A
   
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						Streams late starting!
							  
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						Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
						 Oh it says 18:05 lolol xD
 
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				I really hope Effort goes trough, bet he needs something to cheer him up after the CJ game yesterday. Also Supernova would be nice because... well, terran
			
		
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 18:10 Heartland wrote:such sad news for sc2 today
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						 Poll: Recommend Leenock vs Terminator Game 1Meh Game (4)    57%Excellent Game  (1)    14%Good Game  (1)    14%Bad Game  (1)    14% 7 total votes Your vote: Recommend Leenock vs Terminator Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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				Not safe enough, and Terminator capitalized.
			
		
		
	 
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						Terrible game XD
							  
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						 Like my games as Zerg, i just drone for years and forget to make units and die lolol
 
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				that was... well, unscouted toss
			
		
		
	 
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				How in the world do we have people choosing 3 and above stars?! This game was over the moment that leenock scouted the attack! Literally.
			
		
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 18:17 Pandemona wrote:Terrible game XD
 Like my games as Zerg, i just drone for years and forget to make units and die lolol
 Im in the opposite allways making units and blind spores :D
 
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				That was quite the ambitious Pylon.
			
		
		
	 
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						 On July 23 2014 18:19 polpot wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 18:17 Pandemona wrote:Terrible game XD
 Like my games as Zerg, i just drone for years and forget to make units and die lolol
 Im in the opposite allways making units and blind spores :D 
 Together, we become Jaedong!!!
 
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				On July 23 2014 18:21 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 18:19 polpot wrote:On July 23 2014 18:17 Pandemona wrote:Terrible game XD
 Like my games as Zerg, i just drone for years and forget to make units and die lolol
 Im in the opposite allways making units and blind spores :D Together, we become Jaedong!!! the dream come true!
 
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				oh wowg1 an allin, g2 an allin...
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				Terminator isn't just dancing around, he's read something weird here. Otherwise no two extra cannons like that
			
		
	 
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				leenock, dying to this stuff since 2011
			
		
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 18:26 Undead1993 wrote:zergs, dying to this stuff since 2011
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				On July 23 2014 18:26 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 18:26 Undead1993 wrote:zergs, dying to this stuff since 2011
 fixed i guess that fits as well
 then again not all zergs play sc2 since 2011
   
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				Well Terminator is the only Protoss who hasn't won a tournament. This GSL could be his time
			
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 18:27 Lorning wrote:Wow he actually held that
 
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				Well this is where Leenock is strongest, but I don't even think he can come back from this one xD
			
		
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 18:27 Lorning wrote:Wow he actually held that
 
 Well... dunno if you can call that "held". He just hasn't left the game yet.
 
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				zerg is freaking 30 supply behind even on bases no way he comes back from this
			
		
		
	 
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				4 years and this build is still so strong
			
		
	 
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						 Poll: Recommend Leenock vs Terminator Game 2Bad Game (3)    50%Meh Game  (2)    33%Excellent Game  (1)    17%Good Game  (0)    0% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Leenock vs Terminator Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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 Poll: Recommend Leenock vs Terminator Game 3Good Game (3)    50%Excellent Game  (1)    17%Meh Game  (1)    17%Bad Game  (1)    17% 6 total votes Your vote: Recommend Leenock vs Terminator Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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				Well, in a sense that game was unique despite it being Immortal/Sentry:Rarely do you see it that badly executed and still winning.
 
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				nice try by Leenock though to come back. i hope Supernova can make something happen now.
			
		
		
	 
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				Funny how the strategy has been around since 2011. And yet it works even when scouted instantly. Kinda dumb..
			
		
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 18:31 Pandemona wrote: Leenock  vs   Terminator Game 2 Recap Well after that poor display in Game 1, lets see if Leenock makes some units this time... Leenock 1oclock - Terminator 7oclock Leenock scouts for proxy and finds nothing, then throws 15H down 16P follow up this time though Gateway expand for Terminator He threw a fake pylon down at natural of Leenock to pretend he was cannoning 3rd hatch goes down now for Leenock RW and lair completes same time for Leenock SOUL PUSH coming from Terminator though 5Gates +1 weapon and Warp Prism all going to finish around same time 2 Immortals already out Oh wait he turns around and is going for Immortal drops Hydra den completes for Leenock and range attack starts Now Termiantor comes across the map Leenock runs lings behind the army of Terminator to kill off forward pylons Battle  happens Leenock army even though was good just gets FF off and Termiantor is doing well Still has alot more zerg to break but it is beginging to look like he will do it Hydra and queens and few lings left as the 3rd hatch dies Terminator now takes a supply lead and pushes the natural Leenock manages to hold on after pulling drones though and Terminator wisely lifts his 2 immortals and comes home No 3rd for Terminator though and supplies are 70Leenock 82Termiantor Terminator going across the map with another push Sentry Stalker Zealot and Immortals + warp prism Oh he turns back around to kill the overlord spewing creep on his 3rd Leenock manages to run past Terminator and snipes his robo Terminator continues running into Leenocks base though and its base trade time it looks Alot of Leenock army is still at home though and only around 6 hydra in Terminators natural FFs going down in leenocks base and the hydra and dronese are dieing 30 supply lead for Terminator but only 38 drones between both parties Down goes Leenocks natural GG Terminato 2-0 Leenock 
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				On July 23 2014 18:31 Big J wrote:Well, in a sense that game was unique despite it being Immortal/Sentry:
 Rarely do you see it that badly executed and still winning.
 the forcefields were pretty good, i have seen worse executions in pro gaming
 
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						So bad from Leenocker ;o
							  
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						 No wonder prime haven't been fielding him in SPL
 
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				Boring matches there  
 Time for some Mech excitement?!
 
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				On July 23 2014 18:32 Rocket-Bear wrote:Funny how the strategy has been around since 2011. And yet it works even when scouted instantly. Kinda dumb..
 
 Was the Immortal patch with the +1 range back in 2011? :o
 ... goddamnit... how time flies.
 
 And this song is still horrible!
 
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				Silly race, silly build, silly matchup, silly players &_&
 It's not entertaining at all : (
 
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				On July 23 2014 18:32 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 18:31 Big J wrote:Well, in a sense that game was unique despite it being Immortal/Sentry:
 Rarely do you see it that badly executed and still winning.
 the forcefields were pretty good, i have seen worse executions in pro gaming 
 Well, Im talking more about the setup/timing.
 He fucked up the whole timing at the start. At the time he did that little poke out at the beginning with 2Immortals, you can witness Parting moving out with finished gates and 3Immortals.
 And Immortal drop before Immortal timing is just very, very bad and that's why only the bad Protoss players do it, while all the good ones just do the timing a minute earlier. Also forgetting the obs and fucking up his macro during the push don't really make a case for him.
 
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				On July 23 2014 18:36 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 18:32 Undead1993 wrote:On July 23 2014 18:31 Big J wrote:Well, in a sense that game was unique despite it being Immortal/Sentry:
 Rarely do you see it that badly executed and still winning.
 the forcefields were pretty good, i have seen worse executions in pro gaming Well, Im talking more about the setup/timing. He fucked up the whole timing at the start. At the time he did that little poke out at the beginning with 2Immortals, you can witness Parting moving out with finished gates and 3Immortals. And Immortal drop before Immortal timing is just very, very bad and that's why only the bad Protoss players do it, while all the good ones just do the timing a minute earlier. Also forgetting the obs and fucking up his macro during the push don't really make a case for him. 
 I think he must have believed that there were too many units or a backstab or something. Why else would he get two cannons and back home while flying around with the prism?
 
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				On July 23 2014 18:31 Topdoller wrote:4 years and this build is still so strong
 
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				Wow Root Supernova?, since when! 
			
		
	 
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						Since couple hours ago, can look on left hand side there is thread for press release.
							  
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				On July 23 2014 18:38 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 18:36 Big J wrote:On July 23 2014 18:32 Undead1993 wrote:On July 23 2014 18:31 Big J wrote:Well, in a sense that game was unique despite it being Immortal/Sentry:
 Rarely do you see it that badly executed and still winning.
 the forcefields were pretty good, i have seen worse executions in pro gaming Well, Im talking more about the setup/timing. He fucked up the whole timing at the start. At the time he did that little poke out at the beginning with 2Immortals, you can witness Parting moving out with finished gates and 3Immortals. And Immortal drop before Immortal timing is just very, very bad and that's why only the bad Protoss players do it, while all the good ones just do the timing a minute earlier. Also forgetting the obs and fucking up his macro during the push don't really make a case for him. I think he must have believed that there were too many units or a backstab or something. Why else would he get two cannons and back home while flying around with the prism?  
 yeah, but what made him think that? If that's the case, it was just a blind assumption. And with recall, there's no need to not push out.
 
 Anyways, neither of this players should make it out against effort and SuNo.
 
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				It was beautiful and disgusting to watch an unaware Twitch chat have Artosis break the news of Supernova's signing to them.
			
		
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 18:34 Pandemona wrote:So bad from Leenocker ;o
 No wonder prime haven't been fielding him in SPL
 ??
 Leenock has not been fielded cause he's been living in Taiwan...
 
 And the few times he has gone to Korea Prime has been out of SPL already apart from the games he played a few months back.
 
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				On July 23 2014 18:41 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 18:38 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 18:36 Big J wrote:On July 23 2014 18:32 Undead1993 wrote:On July 23 2014 18:31 Big J wrote:Well, in a sense that game was unique despite it being Immortal/Sentry:
 Rarely do you see it that badly executed and still winning.
 the forcefields were pretty good, i have seen worse executions in pro gaming Well, Im talking more about the setup/timing. He fucked up the whole timing at the start. At the time he did that little poke out at the beginning with 2Immortals, you can witness Parting moving out with finished gates and 3Immortals. And Immortal drop before Immortal timing is just very, very bad and that's why only the bad Protoss players do it, while all the good ones just do the timing a minute earlier. Also forgetting the obs and fucking up his macro during the push don't really make a case for him. I think he must have believed that there were too many units or a backstab or something. Why else would he get two cannons and back home while flying around with the prism?  yeah, but what made him think that? If that's the case, it was just a blind assumption. And with recall, there's no need to not push out. 
 I have no idea... The Phoenix scout somehow? He didn't see so many things, but.. I guess he thought there would be a swell of lings or something coming to surround him? I have no idea. But it's the only thing that makes sense.
 
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				On July 23 2014 18:23 Big J wrote:oh wow
 g1 an allin, g2 an allin...
 what a great Protoss, probably going to win this GSL
 
 It's gonna be tough, with 15 other protoss doing the same this.
 Let's see which one will dodge pvp the most haha ^^
 
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				On July 23 2014 18:40 Pandemona wrote:Since couple hours ago, can look on left hand side there is thread for press release.
 Hope it works out for them both, he's needed a team for a while now.   Looking forward to this game, two good players
 
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				On July 23 2014 18:42 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 18:41 Big J wrote:On July 23 2014 18:38 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 18:36 Big J wrote:On July 23 2014 18:32 Undead1993 wrote:On July 23 2014 18:31 Big J wrote:Well, in a sense that game was unique despite it being Immortal/Sentry:
 Rarely do you see it that badly executed and still winning.
 the forcefields were pretty good, i have seen worse executions in pro gaming Well, Im talking more about the setup/timing. He fucked up the whole timing at the start. At the time he did that little poke out at the beginning with 2Immortals, you can witness Parting moving out with finished gates and 3Immortals. And Immortal drop before Immortal timing is just very, very bad and that's why only the bad Protoss players do it, while all the good ones just do the timing a minute earlier. Also forgetting the obs and fucking up his macro during the push don't really make a case for him. I think he must have believed that there were too many units or a backstab or something. Why else would he get two cannons and back home while flying around with the prism?  yeah, but what made him think that? If that's the case, it was just a blind assumption. And with recall, there's no need to not push out. I have no idea... The Phoenix scout somehow? He didn't see so many things, but.. I guess he thought there would be a swell of lings or something coming to surround him? I have no idea. But it's the only thing that makes sense.  
 well, building one canon is standard after a gateway expand with an Immortal allin is pretty standard I think. Maybe he just had money left over because his gates were late and thought, whatever, just make a second one.
 
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				On July 23 2014 18:45 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 18:42 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 18:41 Big J wrote:On July 23 2014 18:38 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 18:36 Big J wrote:On July 23 2014 18:32 Undead1993 wrote:On July 23 2014 18:31 Big J wrote:Well, in a sense that game was unique despite it being Immortal/Sentry:
 Rarely do you see it that badly executed and still winning.
 the forcefields were pretty good, i have seen worse executions in pro gaming Well, Im talking more about the setup/timing. He fucked up the whole timing at the start. At the time he did that little poke out at the beginning with 2Immortals, you can witness Parting moving out with finished gates and 3Immortals. And Immortal drop before Immortal timing is just very, very bad and that's why only the bad Protoss players do it, while all the good ones just do the timing a minute earlier. Also forgetting the obs and fucking up his macro during the push don't really make a case for him. I think he must have believed that there were too many units or a backstab or something. Why else would he get two cannons and back home while flying around with the prism?  yeah, but what made him think that? If that's the case, it was just a blind assumption. And with recall, there's no need to not push out. I have no idea... The Phoenix scout somehow? He didn't see so many things, but.. I guess he thought there would be a swell of lings or something coming to surround him? I have no idea. But it's the only thing that makes sense.  well, building one canon is standard after a gateway expand with an Immortal allin is pretty standard I think. Maybe he just had money left over because his gates were late and thought, whatever, just make a second one. 
 People like Parting just go yolo and skip the cannon. And no Protoss ever builds an extra cannon if they can help it. ; ) They were also placed weirdly in an anti-Roach/ling bust position.
 
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				Cool little attack but great defence by EffOrt. Dude has really upped his game since the R4 Finals.
			
		
		
	 
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				Already better than Leenock vs Terminators games.   
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				Such a great effort to spread the creep.
			
		
		
	 
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				Those spores are doing great for Effort 
			
		
	 
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				Both guys are playing so well
			
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 18:52 RHoudini wrote:Such a great effort to spread the creep.
 
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						 Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs EffOrt Game 1Good Game (7)    78%Excellent Game  (1)    11%Meh Game  (1)    11%Bad Game  (0)    0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs EffOrt Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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				On July 23 2014 19:04 PVJ wrote:Effort's TvZ is great but if he wins he has to vP. :/
 
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				On July 23 2014 19:06 Pandemona wrote:Whats happening btw, have they said? #NoSound
 
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						 On July 23 2014 19:07 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:06 Pandemona wrote:Whats happening btw, have they said? #NoSound
 Ex-IM players came into the studio and begged for money from the audience. It caused a ruckus so they had to pause.  
 Ah, already jesus christ
  They will be fine, just need to beg Prime for jobs. Im sure MKP needs a slave
 
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				On July 23 2014 19:07 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:06 Pandemona wrote:Whats happening btw, have they said? #NoSound
 Ex-IM players came into the studio and begged for money from the audience. It caused a ruckus so they had to pause.  
 Too soon
   
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				On July 23 2014 19:08 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:07 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 19:06 Pandemona wrote:Whats happening btw, have they said? #NoSound
 Ex-IM players came into the studio and begged for money from the audience. It caused a ruckus so they had to pause.  Ah, already jesus christ   They will be fine, just need to beg Prime for jobs. Im sure MKP needs a slave I could see that work. Mvp goes into the booth instead of MKP, suddenly MKP becomes relevant again. Could work out.
   
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				On July 23 2014 19:08 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:07 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 19:06 Pandemona wrote:Whats happening btw, have they said? #NoSound
 Ex-IM players came into the studio and begged for money from the audience. It caused a ruckus so they had to pause.  Ah, already jesus christ   They will be fine, just need to beg Prime for jobs. Im sure MKP needs a slave 
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						 On July 23 2014 19:10 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:08 Pandemona wrote:On July 23 2014 19:07 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 19:06 Pandemona wrote:Whats happening btw, have they said? #NoSound
 Ex-IM players came into the studio and begged for money from the audience. It caused a ruckus so they had to pause.  Ah, already jesus christ   They will be fine, just need to beg Prime for jobs. Im sure MKP needs a slave I could see that work. Mvp goes into the booth instead of MKP, suddenly MKP becomes relevant again. Could work out.   
 lolol
  Or maybe, MKP lends his micro to MVP and they make a hybrid and become Maru 2.0
 Then for next 3 GSLs we have MKP vs Maru - Anakin vs Luke - Sensei vs Student oh gosh!
 
 
 On July 23 2014 19:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:08 Pandemona wrote:On July 23 2014 19:07 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 19:06 Pandemona wrote:Whats happening btw, have they said? #NoSound
 Ex-IM players came into the studio and begged for money from the audience. It caused a ruckus so they had to pause.  Ah, already jesus christ   They will be fine, just need to beg Prime for jobs. Im sure MKP needs a slave C'mon at least make it believable. Prime has nothing to offer. 
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				Desert oasis.
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						 On July 23 2014 19:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:08 Pandemona wrote:On July 23 2014 19:07 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 19:06 Pandemona wrote:Whats happening btw, have they said? #NoSound
 Ex-IM players came into the studio and begged for money from the audience. It caused a ruckus so they had to pause.  Ah, already jesus christ   They will be fine, just need to beg Prime for jobs. Im sure MKP needs a slave C'mon at least make it believable. Prime has nothing to offer. Bashing Prime? When IM is basically dead? ROFL
 
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				On July 23 2014 19:10 Schelim wrote:Pizza bake dude my favorite BW map name
 
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				On July 23 2014 19:08 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:07 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 19:06 Pandemona wrote:Whats happening btw, have they said? #NoSound
 Ex-IM players came into the studio and begged for money from the audience. It caused a ruckus so they had to pause.  Too soon   
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				On July 23 2014 19:12 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:10 Big J wrote:On July 23 2014 19:08 Pandemona wrote:On July 23 2014 19:07 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 19:06 Pandemona wrote:Whats happening btw, have they said? #NoSound
 Ex-IM players came into the studio and begged for money from the audience. It caused a ruckus so they had to pause.  Ah, already jesus christ   They will be fine, just need to beg Prime for jobs. Im sure MKP needs a slave I could see that work. Mvp goes into the booth instead of MKP, suddenly MKP becomes relevant again. Could work out.   lolol   Or maybe, MKP lends his micro to MVP and they make a hybrid and become Maru 2.0 Then for next 3 GSLs we have MKP vs Maru - Anakin vs Luke - Sensei vs Student oh gosh!  
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				On July 23 2014 19:14 Heartland wrote:Lol, did someone call Peaks of Baedu (sp?) that? it's what i hear everytime someone says it
 
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				On July 23 2014 19:13 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:11 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 23 2014 19:08 Pandemona wrote:On July 23 2014 19:07 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 19:06 Pandemona wrote:Whats happening btw, have they said? #NoSound
 Ex-IM players came into the studio and begged for money from the audience. It caused a ruckus so they had to pause.  Ah, already jesus christ   They will be fine, just need to beg Prime for jobs. Im sure MKP needs a slave C'mon at least make it believable. Prime has nothing to offer. Bashing Prime? When IM is basically dead? ROFL 
 Well...even on our last leg we're still slightly better than Prime xD
 
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				good, Artosis, good. let the hate flow through you.
			
		
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 19:16 Schelim wrote:good, Artosis, good. let the hate flow through you.
 
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				On July 23 2014 19:19 DarkLordOlli wrote:I want the void ray speed upgrade back
 
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						 awhdhawdhawhw Amulet upgrade :w
 
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				On July 23 2014 19:20 Pandemona wrote:Insta storm just to fuck up TvP more :D
 awhdhawdhawhw Amulet upgrade :w
 
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						OMG Whats happening this game is on my stream :s
							  
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				On July 23 2014 19:24 Pandemona wrote:Hey....GOM we have resume from replay feature yo? What is this
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				On July 23 2014 19:24 Pandemona wrote:Hey....GOM we have resume from replay feature yo? What is this
 
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				On July 23 2014 19:24 Pandemona wrote:Hey....GOM we have resume from replay feature yo? What is this
 
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						 On July 23 2014 19:25 Phredxor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:24 Pandemona wrote:Hey....GOM we have resume from replay feature yo? What is this
 Apparently SuNo had a problem with his account so they couldn't do it. Both agreed to re-game. 
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						 On July 23 2014 19:26 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:24 Pandemona wrote:Hey....GOM we have resume from replay feature yo? What is this
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				On July 23 2014 19:28 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:26 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 19:24 Pandemona wrote:Hey....GOM we have resume from replay feature yo? What is this
 They've hired some unemployed Prime people to run those features and they just flat out refused to do it Maybe they should get some SKT terrans instead, they don't get to play any games anyway 
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				On July 23 2014 19:28 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:26 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 19:24 Pandemona wrote:Hey....GOM we have resume from replay feature yo? What is this
 They've hired some unemployed Prime people to run those features and they just flat out refused to do it Maybe they should get some SKT terrans instead, they don't get to play any games anyway 
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				The hellions give 0 shits of your banes!
			
		
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 19:33 Pandemona wrote:Yay swarm hosts :D
 
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				On July 23 2014 19:32 Phredxor wrote:Up 60 supply?
 
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						 Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs EffOrt Game 2Good Game (6)    75%Excellent Game  (2)    25%Meh Game  (0)    0%Bad Game  (0)    0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs EffOrt Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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				Yeah I liked the bio fake out. Very cool :D
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				On July 23 2014 19:37 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:Queen SoJung station. Likely see some more mech.
 
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						 Poll: Recommend SuperNova vs EffOrt Game 3Bad Game (6)    67%Meh Game  (3)    33%Excellent Game  (0)    0%Good Game  (0)    0% 9 total votes Your vote: Recommend SuperNova vs EffOrt Game 3 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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				On July 23 2014 19:45 [PkF] Wire wrote:Is it just me or was the tank placement dumb as shit ?
 
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				On July 23 2014 19:48 MrCon wrote:Btw just came home, when I left Wolftosis were talking about an amazing game, and an even more amazing game.
 Anyone has a link ? =)
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						 On July 23 2014 19:55 Topdoller wrote:Will Terminator build 3 nexi  or not  hehe
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				On July 23 2014 19:52 Neoptolemos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:48 MrCon wrote:Btw just came home, when I left Wolftosis were talking about an amazing game, and an even more amazing game.
 Anyone has a link ? =)
 The more amazing game was Rain vs. herO , but I am also wondering about the amazing game. It was Maru vs. someone iirc. Thanks good sir
   
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						 On July 23 2014 19:52 Neoptolemos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:48 MrCon wrote:Btw just came home, when I left Wolftosis were talking about an amazing game, and an even more amazing game.
 Anyone has a link ? =)
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				On July 23 2014 20:02 Lorning wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 19:52 Neoptolemos wrote:On July 23 2014 19:48 MrCon wrote:Btw just came home, when I left Wolftosis were talking about an amazing game, and an even more amazing game.
 Anyone has a link ? =)
 The more amazing game was Rain vs. herO , but I am also wondering about the amazing game. It was Maru vs. someone iirc. Maru vs EffOrt - Jin Air vs CJ in the round 3 PL playoffs Thanks !
 
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				Why did effort not counter attack ?After holding that push ,terminator had literally nothing at home and he had like 20 roaches and 20 hydras, He'd have killed him there o_O
 
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				On July 23 2014 20:07 Undead1993 wrote:terminator really surprises me this was a solid comeback imo
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						 Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 1Good Game (6)    50%Excellent Game  (4)    33%Meh Game  (2)    17%Bad Game  (0)    0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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				Is Terminator really making it through without showing a good game? Really?
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						 On July 23 2014 20:15 Pandemona wrote:Poll: Recommend Winners Match Game 1Good Game (6)    50%Excellent Game  (4)    33%Meh Game  (2)    17%Bad Game  (0)    0% 12 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winners Match Game 1 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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				On July 23 2014 20:16 Undead1993 wrote:why the hell would you go mutas if you can't basetrade properly freaking 269 minerals in the bank all drones burrowed whaaaaaaaaaaaaat
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				On July 23 2014 20:16 Big J wrote:Is Terminator really making it through without showing a good game? Really?
 
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				On July 23 2014 20:16 Undead1993 wrote:why the hell would you go mutas if you can't basetrade properly freaking 269 minerals in the bank all drones burrowed whaaaaaaaaaaaaat
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				On July 23 2014 20:17 Strela wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 20:16 Undead1993 wrote:why the hell would you go mutas if you can't basetrade properly freaking 269 minerals in the bank all drones burrowed whaaaaaaaaaaaaat
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				Someone should make a basetrade training map. Everyoone knows how to micro this or that, but apparently almost noone knows how to build buildings when you are losing the last one you have ...
			
		
		
	 
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						 On July 23 2014 20:23 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:In before Terminator win next GSL
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				On July 23 2014 20:23 Lorning wrote:It's ParalyzE's turn as long as he beats soO in the finals, I'm fini with anything
 
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				On July 23 2014 20:23 Lorning wrote:It's ParalyzE's turn Nah, we had enough 1-time protoss champions lately. I hope we can get some stability in next season and have someone getting a second championship. Preferably DRG.
 
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				On July 23 2014 20:28 Xoronius wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 20:23 Lorning wrote:On July 23 2014 20:23 PepsiMaxxxx wrote:In before Terminator win next GSL
 It's ParalyzE's turn Nah, we had enough 1-time protoss champions lately. I hope we can get some stability in next season and have someone getting a second championship. Preferably DRG. 
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				Zerg learning to micro! Makes things more exciting and really shows skill   
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				It's pretty baffling how someone who has as much experience and skill as Effort still doesn't get how hosts work.
			
		
		
	 
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				terminator 4-0 in maps, lol
			
		
		
	 
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				Terminator gonna terminate
			
		
		
	 
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				It all fell apart with the awefull SH positioning/too late on the retreat-
			
		
	 
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				Terminator: "GSL, I'll be back."
			
		
		
	 
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				LOL even Terminator can't beleive he made Code S   
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				Looking pretty grim for SuperNova.
			
		
	 
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				Supernova vs Leenock one of those classic GSL matchups
			
		
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 20:36 TheDwf wrote:Looking pretty grim for SuperNova.
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				Honestly this group was so good for Terminator and so bad for SuNo though. They got 2 zergs that are known for good ZvT and awful ZvP
			
		
		
	 
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				oh gooooodddd, Mvp vs Squirtle!!!!
			
		
	 
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				The legendary game, this map was looking so big back in the days lol
			
		
	 
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				the memories! squirtle vs mvp!
			
		
		
	 
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				can't believe I missed this final 
			
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 20:39 Ej_ wrote:Honestly this group was so good for Terminator and so bad for SuNo though. They got 2 zergs that are known for good ZvT and awful ZvP
 I am still shocked by Terminator 4-0 this group, I haven't seen him doing anything to show he is other than a generic Protoss, from a production line of Protosses
 
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				that series though. i remember Tastosis were standing up and jumping around when that vortex happened. i remember i was, too.
			
		
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 20:42 Schelim wrote:that series though. i remember Tastosis were standing up and jumping around when that vortex happened. i remember i was, too.
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						Without meaning to state a huge bitch war and balance crap.
							  
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						 I would take WOL back in a heart beat, compared to HOTS i don't feel the game is as fun as previous.
 I mean the KESPA players coming into HOTS have made HOTS fun, but imagine what they would of done to stuff in WOL, damnnnn.
 
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				On July 23 2014 20:43 Pandemona wrote:Without meaning to state a huge bitch war and balance crap.
 I would take WOL back in a heart beat, compared to HOTS i don't feel the game is as fun as previous.
 I mean the KESPA players coming into HOTS have made HOTS fun, but imagine what they would of done to stuff in WOL, damnnnn.
 
 I think Hots is so much better than WoL. And they did switch over with WoL!
 
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				On July 23 2014 20:42 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 20:42 Schelim wrote:that series though. i remember Tastosis were standing up and jumping around when that vortex happened. i remember i was, too.
 and then suddenly 2 rax omg i was so mad i loved it but i'm an Mvp fanboy
   
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				On July 23 2014 20:43 Pandemona wrote:Without meaning to state a huge bitch war and balance crap.
 I would take WOL back in a heart beat, compared to HOTS i don't feel the game is as fun as previous.
 I mean the KESPA players coming into HOTS have HOTS fun, but imagine what they would of done to stuff in WOL, damnnnn.
 yep, i completely agree, nowadays when i open up wol and start playing it i have way more fun than i do when i play hots
 
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				Hots is WOL whit more units! :D
			
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 20:45 polpot wrote:Hots is WOL whit more units! :D
 
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						 On July 23 2014 20:44 Heartland wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 20:43 Pandemona wrote:Without meaning to state a huge bitch war and balance crap.
 I would take WOL back in a heart beat, compared to HOTS i don't feel the game is as fun as previous.
 I mean the KESPA players coming into HOTS have made HOTS fun, but imagine what they would of done to stuff in WOL, damnnnn.
 I think Hots is so much better than WoL. And they did switch over with WoL!  
 They played like 1-2 months of split game SPL? And they were terrible xD
 Then they had about 1month of SPL full on WOL too?
 But what i mean is that if they joined 12months before HOTS and really went into WOL and joined GSLs and what not, we could of seen so much more fun game play with a game that was still changing every month.
 
 Now in HOTS we have had nothing really as diverse as what GOM justs reminded us of, a final where mass sky Terran vs Sky Toss xD
 
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				Reminder that Mvp will never win the G5L trophy   
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				On July 23 2014 20:46 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 20:44 Heartland wrote:On July 23 2014 20:43 Pandemona wrote:Without meaning to state a huge bitch war and balance crap.
 I would take WOL back in a heart beat, compared to HOTS i don't feel the game is as fun as previous.
 I mean the KESPA players coming into HOTS have made HOTS fun, but imagine what they would of done to stuff in WOL, damnnnn.
 I think Hots is so much better than WoL. And they did switch over with WoL!  They played like 1-2 months of split game SPL? And they were terrible xD Then they had about 1month of SPL full on WOL too? But what i mean is that if they joined 12months before HOTS and really went into WOL and joined GSLs and what not, we could of seen so much more fun game play with a game that was still changing every month. Now in HOTS we have had nothing really as diverse as what GOM justs reminded us of, a final where mass sky Terran vs Sky Toss xD 
 I disagree actually. That MVP vs Squirtle game was a one-time thing. In Hots we've seen the resurgence of mech across various matchups, we've seen the sOs skytoss revolution, Templar/zlot vs bio play and so on. I think the metagame in some matchups, like TvZ, is pretty static in Hots but I think that's fine. The level of play is always high.
 
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				fully expecting Nova to beat Leenock here, but beating Effort is a real ask
			
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 20:45 polpot wrote:Hots is WOL whit more units! :D
 Yeah, like the MSC and the Swarm Host.
 
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				On July 23 2014 20:46 Bowzar wrote:Reminder that Mvp will never win the G5L trophy   he could still switch region 8 years from now and randomly win Code S because Mvp
 
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				On July 23 2014 20:51 Squat wrote:Yeah, like the MSC and the Swarm Host. I agree, this one is pain in the ass, but other than that i think the game is more versatile and better than wol, i loove the swarm host as a zerg
   
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				What are you doing, Leenock...
			
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 20:56 TheDwf wrote:What are you doing, Leenock...
 
 
 losing LIKE A BAWS!
 
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				Leenock is not the Zerg he used to be   
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				Leenock disappointing for now
			
		
	 
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				God damnit, Leenock. Get it together. This is tough.. I love Leenock, I respect Supernova and EffOrt has a special place in my BW heart. I want them all to go through. Fuuuuu Terminator
			
		
		
	 
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				Woo hopefully an entertaining TvZ
			
		
		
	 
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				Leenock should have easily won that after catching the first few hellions. How the hell did he lose to simple hellion-banshee after killing 4 hellions basically for free?
			
		
		
	 
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						 On July 23 2014 20:57 Foreverkul wrote:Transformers ROLL OUT!
 
 :3
 Wtb Optimus Prime back for Prime xD
 
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				What if Battle Cruisers had a transformation mode?! That would be siiiiiiiiick! Bring the mech transformation theme ALL THE WAY BLIZZARD!
			
		
	 
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						That was terrible from Supernova right? Killed 1 drone?...
							  
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				On July 23 2014 21:02 Pandemona wrote:That was terrible from Supernova right? Killed 1 drone?...
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				On July 23 2014 21:02 Pandemona wrote:That was terrible from Supernova right? Killed 1 drone?...
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						 On July 23 2014 21:02 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 21:02 Pandemona wrote:That was terrible from Supernova right? Killed 1 drone?...
 Can't expect much more when you proxy that far. 
 Ahh right was bad location? Ok xD
 
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				what would have tipped me off that Lennock goes 2base spire, is to scout 2bases and scan a spire, Artosis   
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				Hatch at third is misplaced?
			
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 21:05 TheDwf wrote:Hatch at third is misplaced?
 
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				On July 23 2014 20:59 Foreverkul wrote:What if Battle Cruisers had a transformation mode?! That would be siiiiiiiiick! Bring the mech transformation theme ALL THE WAY BLIZZARD!
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				On July 23 2014 21:07 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 20:59 Foreverkul wrote:What if Battle Cruisers had a transformation mode?! That would be siiiiiiiiick! Bring the mech transformation theme ALL THE WAY BLIZZARD!
 can transform into thors and back Or it breaks apart and you can reform them like Power Rangers Zords or Voltron!!!
 
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				That's more like Leenock.
			
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 21:09 Foreverkul wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 21:07 Schelim wrote:On July 23 2014 20:59 Foreverkul wrote:What if Battle Cruisers had a transformation mode?! That would be siiiiiiiiick! Bring the mech transformation theme ALL THE WAY BLIZZARD!
 can transform into thors and back Or it breaks apart and you can reform them like Power Rangers Zords or Voltron!!! turns into 3 vikings and a raven.
 
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				must hurt supernova to scan so much and still not see what composition leenock is going for <.<
			
		
		
	 
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				To give Leenock some credit Artosis, he was 11r/11g proxied which did little and never actually fell behind SuNo in terms of supply or mining. It wasn't such a terrible spot.
			
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 21:15 BlackCompany wrote:Broodlords seems kind of wierd since Suno has so many Vikings left..
 It's OK, he has mutas and Corruptors.
 
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				On July 23 2014 21:16 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 21:15 BlackCompany wrote:Broodlords seems kind of wierd since Suno has so many Vikings left..
 It's OK, he has mutas and Corruptors. 
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				That attack was solid, long ago I saw broodlords do work.
			
		
	 
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				That ending made me sad. Tier 10 vs tier 2 units   
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						 On July 23 2014 21:16 Lorning wrote:Poll: Recommend Losers Match Game 2Good Game (5)    50%Excellent Game  (4)    40%Meh Game  (1)    10%Bad Game  (0)    0% 10 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Match Game 2 (Vote): Excellent Game(Vote): Good Game
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				On July 23 2014 21:17 Foreverkul wrote:That ending made me sad. Tier 10 vs tier 2 units   What?
 
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				On July 23 2014 21:18 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 21:17 Foreverkul wrote:That ending made me sad. Tier 10 vs tier 2 units   What? I guess my joke fell flat, did I need to use a higher number?
 
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				On July 23 2014 21:21 Undead1993 wrote:where's tasteless btw?
 
 Battletoads tournament.
 
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						Oli gief op to Lorning as i need to go banking as it getting to late fml xD
							  
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				Uch, two scans to see 2-bases mutas.
			
		
	 
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				SuNo, wtf? why no antiair?
			
		
	 
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				Well Leenock did more now than last game. He's got this!
			
		
		
	 
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				suno is always out of position for these little roach runbys T_T
			
		
		
	 
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				SuNo seems to know that the muta switch is coming after his experience last game.
			
		
		
	 
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						Leenock vs SuperNova might be one of the most painful Loser's Matches possible :/ I want both of these guys to do well, and now one of them is guaranteed back to Code B and the other is gonna have to fight hard against EffOrt. Leenock's really been picking himself up this series, though, so I think he might have a chance vs EffOrt.
							  
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				Watching Bomber and SuperNova meching at the same time :o
			
		
	 
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				Leenock really showing how to kill Mech.Step 1, contain with mutas/roaches on 3bases, while taking all the map.
 Step 2, Swarm Hosts and wait until the Terran runs out of money on his 3-4bases.
 
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				On July 23 2014 21:32 Big J wrote:Leenock really showing how to kill Mech.
 Step 1, contain with mutas/roaches on 3bases, while taking all the map.
 Step 2, Swarm Hosts and wait until the Terran runs out of money on his 3-4bases.
 
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				On July 23 2014 21:32 Big J wrote:Leenock really showing how to kill Mech.
 Step 1, contain with mutas/roaches on 3bases, while taking all the map.
 Step 2, Swarm Hosts and wait until the Terran runs out of money on his 3-4bases.
 meanwhile suno shows how to not play mech agaisnt a good zerg, he just allows him to take 6 bases whereas he himself is on three. i don't think you can win this way against zerg
 
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				Seems like a raven for detection would be invaluable right now, so why doesn't he make one?
			
		
	 
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				Wow, this is way closer than I thought it'd be
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				Honestly this is probably one of the worst controlled mech games I've seen from SuNo in a while.Pretty painful how he is leaking so many helbats/hellions with bad control.
 I really wanted to see him make Code S but I don't think it is going to happen.
 
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				SuperNova.  GG Leenock, good game plans even if the execution wasn't the best.
 
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				On July 23 2014 21:34 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 21:32 Big J wrote:Leenock really showing how to kill Mech.
 Step 1, contain with mutas/roaches on 3bases, while taking all the map.
 Step 2, Swarm Hosts and wait until the Terran runs out of money on his 3-4bases.
 meanwhile suno shows how to not play mech agaisnt a good zerg, he just allows him to take 6 bases whereas he himself is on three. i don't think you can win this way against zerg 
 I think Leenock just read his play. The banshee/cloak+armory/Hellbat 3CC opening that SuNo is doing only has 1fac+1starport for production. That maybe enough with a wall and a bunker to hold roach aggression, but a fast 2base spire just forces the Terran into so much defense that there is really nothing he can do, after the initial hellbat and banshee aggression has been cleaned up. The Zerg 4th and 5th base for zerg are basically unchallenged, while SuNo just has to make turrets and more factories while Leenock can mine away.
 
 If it wasn't a 2base spire, I think SuNo could get away with the build while doing damage to the third.
 
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				hyvaa and not knowing if Bbyong is already in Code S, that´s sad indeed..
			
		
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 21:34 Undead1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 21:32 Big J wrote:Leenock really showing how to kill Mech.
 Step 1, contain with mutas/roaches on 3bases, while taking all the map.
 Step 2, Swarm Hosts and wait until the Terran runs out of money on his 3-4bases.
 meanwhile suno shows how to not play mech agaisnt a good zerg, he just allows him to take 6 bases whereas he himself is on three. i don't think you can win this way against zerg 
 Thats because SuNo didnt get early game advantage and the map is very anti mech, especially at those scenarios. He didnt choose to not get more bases, its just impossible with mech against a good zerg who is not behind. Mech is just really flimsy.
 
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				2 clear examples, how NOT to play mech.. No system, cover, detection, bad unit control and decision making - attacking into free units on creep and burrow with no detection much?
			
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 21:42 Everlong wrote:2 clear examples, how NOT to play mech.. No system, cover, detection, bad unit control decision making - attacking into free units on creep and burrow with no detection much?
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				Persistently going Mech,  is setting yourself up for a fall if the opposition knows how to deal with it. HOTS  is just not mech friendly. It's slow, the maps are bad and the units in the game wreck it with ease. lennock isn't exactly in top for, but he knew how to kill it with ease, imho 
			
		
	 
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				hehe, I used to agree with Artosis but 10 pool/bane has been quite successful as of late ><
			
		
		
	 
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						Argh, that said Leenock played pretty well there.  I don't mean to disparage players either but why couldn't both he and Effort show such chops against P?
							
							 
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				On July 23 2014 21:47 Topdoller wrote:Persistently going Mech,  is setting yourself up for a fall if the opposition knows how to deal with it. HOTS  is just not mech friendly. It's slow, the maps are bad and the units in the game wreck it with ease. lennock isn't exactly in top for, but he knew how to kill it with ease, imho
 
 He just abused mistakes Supernova made. Nothing more. Those 2 games had nothing to do how good or bad mech is. Like the positioning of Supernova's units was so bad. For example Leenock was able to snipe Supernova's 6th refinery like 3 times in a row. No turret or Thor standing there. He was able to pick 2 Thors with burrow with minimal loses. Then again, Supernova got caught underprepared for mutas. He let his Raven die and never rebuild it and went on to attack on creep. The list is endless. Of course Leenock just won. Lets move on, this was just so bad.
 
 
 
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						 On July 23 2014 21:53 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:the hell was that Leenock? :/
 
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				On July 23 2014 21:53 Everlong wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 21:47 Topdoller wrote:Persistently going Mech,  is setting yourself up for a fall if the opposition knows how to deal with it. HOTS  is just not mech friendly. It's slow, the maps are bad and the units in the game wreck it with ease. lennock isn't exactly in top for, but he knew how to kill it with ease, imho
 He just abused mistakes Supernova made. Nothing more. Those 2 games had nothing to do how good or bad mech is. Like the positioning of Supernova's units was so bad. For example Leenock was able to snipe Supernova's 6th refinery like 3 times in a row. No turret or Thor standing there. He was able to pick 2 Thors with burrow with minimal loses. Then again, Supernova got caught underprepared for mutas. He let his Raven die and never rebuild it and went on to attack on creep. The list is endless. Of course Leenock just won. Lets move on, this was just so bad. 
 It is extremely hard to defend your third on merry go round, because its so open. I bet most mech players veto it.
 
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				On July 23 2014 21:55 cmdspinner1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 21:53 Everlong wrote:On July 23 2014 21:47 Topdoller wrote:Persistently going Mech,  is setting yourself up for a fall if the opposition knows how to deal with it. HOTS  is just not mech friendly. It's slow, the maps are bad and the units in the game wreck it with ease. lennock isn't exactly in top for, but he knew how to kill it with ease, imho
 He just abused mistakes Supernova made. Nothing more. Those 2 games had nothing to do how good or bad mech is. Like the positioning of Supernova's units was so bad. For example Leenock was able to snipe Supernova's 6th refinery like 3 times in a row. No turret or Thor standing there. He was able to pick 2 Thors with burrow with minimal loses. Then again, Supernova got caught underprepared for mutas. He let his Raven die and never rebuild it and went on to attack on creep. The list is endless. Of course Leenock just won. Lets move on, this was just so bad. It is extremely hard to defend your third on merry go round, because its so open. I bet most mech players veto it. 
 Yes, that is true, but he had the units right there. I see this happening all the time. Mech players positioning their units in a way Zerg can easily abuse it (either snipe key structures, or the units themselves - both happened in both games here). Obviously Supernova is a good player, but it's not hard to build 1-2 additional turrets in key locations, or build a sensor tower. On such large map, it's pretty obvious Zerg will try to drag out the game. And as a mech player, you should not really be looking to close it asap anyways. Do we agree?
 
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				noooooo kespa why are you so strong?
			
		
		
	 
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				Ugh, bye bye liquibet rank1
			
		
		
	 
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				If Effort could fix his ZvP, he could go far this GSL
			
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 22:01 Everlong wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 21:55 cmdspinner1 wrote:On July 23 2014 21:53 Everlong wrote:On July 23 2014 21:47 Topdoller wrote:Persistently going Mech,  is setting yourself up for a fall if the opposition knows how to deal with it. HOTS  is just not mech friendly. It's slow, the maps are bad and the units in the game wreck it with ease. lennock isn't exactly in top for, but he knew how to kill it with ease, imho
 He just abused mistakes Supernova made. Nothing more. Those 2 games had nothing to do how good or bad mech is. Like the positioning of Supernova's units was so bad. For example Leenock was able to snipe Supernova's 6th refinery like 3 times in a row. No turret or Thor standing there. He was able to pick 2 Thors with burrow with minimal loses. Then again, Supernova got caught underprepared for mutas. He let his Raven die and never rebuild it and went on to attack on creep. The list is endless. Of course Leenock just won. Lets move on, this was just so bad. It is extremely hard to defend your third on merry go round, because its so open. I bet most mech players veto it. Yes, that is true, but he had the units right there. I see this happening all the time. Mech players positioning their units in a way Zerg can easily abuse it (either snipe key structures, or the units themselves - both happened in both games here). Obviously Supernova is a good player, but it's not hard to build 1-2 additional turrets in key locations, or build a sensor tower. On such large map, it's pretty obvious Zerg will try to drag out the game. And as a mech player, you should not really be looking to close it asap. Do we agree? 
 I agree he did not play perfect, but especially on this map, mech is just unforgiving against zerg. He wanted a timing but it didnt work because he didnt do enough ealry damage. Then he should have turtled hardcore. But this is really difficult on this map, because you need a fourth.
 
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				well done   
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				On July 23 2014 22:04 Topdoller wrote:If Effort could fix his ZvP, he could go far this GSL
 
 With how good his P practice partners are I don't understand how it's so bad.
 
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						 On July 23 2014 22:07 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 22:04 Topdoller wrote:If Effort could fix his ZvP, he could go far this GSL
 With how good his P practice partners are I don't understand how it's so bad. 
 Maybe getting repeatedly destroyed in practice has lowered his confidence for the matchup
 
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				I don't think I have ever seen Artosis+Wolf, they make a pretty good cast together - surely it's missing a little bit of action, but they can really discuss what's going on.
			
		
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 22:11 opisska wrote:I don't think I have ever seen Artosis+Wolf, they make a pretty good cast together - surely it's missing a little bit of action, but they can really discuss what's going on.
 
 Yes I really enjoyed it. And they actually talk about whats going on, not just the usual artosis monologue when he casts with tasteless.
 
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				Woah I managed to successfully guess the two -- problem is they departed instead of going through.
			
		
		
	 
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				On July 23 2014 22:07 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2014 22:04 Topdoller wrote:If Effort could fix his ZvP, he could go far this GSL
 With how good his P practice partners are I don't understand how it's so bad. I mean, Avenge and Terminator are solid but I wouldn't say they're spectacular,  and $O$ isn't exactly your standard toss. I imagine being used as fodder for sOs to develop some of his whacky stuff doesn't exactly do much for ones confidence in the matchup either.
 
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