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[SPL] IM vs CJ Round Round 2 2014 - Page 13

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Rainmansc
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands216 Posts
March 17 2014 12:07 GMT
#241
On March 17 2014 21:05 liberate71 wrote:
How can you possibly leave a game on 5k 3.7k as zerg.

get some lava ffs especially when the push is that slow?

So you think 37 muta's would kill the army? Whats your point...
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
March 17 2014 12:07 GMT
#242
On March 17 2014 21:07 juvenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 21:04 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs Bbyong?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
9%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
 
21%

★★★- Good game (13)
 
38%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (9)
 
26%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
 
6%

34 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs Bbyong?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


dat gaussian curve

All in all, a quite normal game
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 17 2014 12:08 GMT
#243
On March 17 2014 21:04 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs Bbyong?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
9%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
 
21%

★★★- Good game (13)
 
38%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (9)
 
26%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
 
6%

34 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs Bbyong?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16123 Posts
March 17 2014 12:08 GMT
#244
On March 17 2014 21:06 SeventhPride wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 21:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:02 SeventhPride wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:01 Vindicare605 wrote:
So this is the answer to the mass Muta clouds I've seen Soulkey use to stop this style of Mech.

Mass turrets to prevent the Zerg from forcing a base trade? Interesting.

Wasnt this the answer from the beginning? At least from my ladder games, terrans have been doing this.


I mean it was an answer that made sense on ladder but something I didn't know would translate to the pro level.


Clearly it does.

lol, guess you never know how strong turrets are. But yeah, they rip mutas like paper.


It's one of those things.

When I'm playing Terran Mutas seem to laugh at my Turrets. When I'm playing Zerg my Mutas get annihilated by them.

I never know objectively how to feel about them.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
March 17 2014 12:09 GMT
#245
On March 17 2014 21:07 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 21:07 juvenal wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:04 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs Bbyong?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
9%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
 
21%

★★★- Good game (13)
 
38%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (9)
 
26%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
 
6%

34 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs Bbyong?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


dat gaussian curve

It's a sideways middle finger, I guess people don't like Swarmhosts vs Mech

It is still an awkward little dance.
PanzerElite
Profile Joined May 2012
540 Posts
March 17 2014 12:09 GMT
#246
On March 17 2014 21:08 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 21:06 SeventhPride wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:02 SeventhPride wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:01 Vindicare605 wrote:
So this is the answer to the mass Muta clouds I've seen Soulkey use to stop this style of Mech.

Mass turrets to prevent the Zerg from forcing a base trade? Interesting.

Wasnt this the answer from the beginning? At least from my ladder games, terrans have been doing this.


I mean it was an answer that made sense on ladder but something I didn't know would translate to the pro level.


Clearly it does.

lol, guess you never know how strong turrets are. But yeah, they rip mutas like paper.


It's one of those things.

When I'm playing Terran Mutas seem to laugh at my Turrets. When I'm playing Zerg my Mutas get annihilated by them.

I never know objectively how to feel about them.

then make more turrets, avilo style....
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 17 2014 12:09 GMT
#247
On March 17 2014 21:07 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 21:07 juvenal wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:04 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs Bbyong?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
9%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
 
21%

★★★- Good game (13)
 
38%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (9)
 
26%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
 
6%

34 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs Bbyong?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


dat gaussian curve

It's a sideways middle finger, I guess people don't like Swarmhosts vs Mech

Inspired by major
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
March 17 2014 12:09 GMT
#248
This is basically the exact copy of BW TvP O_o

In BW, this was being fought with mass expanding and recalls into production whenever terran moved out. I think that's what zergs have to do against this, mass expand + nyduses into production while making cost innefective fights with SHs/burrowed roaches to stall the terran army and slowly chip them away.
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
March 17 2014 12:09 GMT
#249
On March 17 2014 21:08 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 21:06 SeventhPride wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:04 Vindicare605 wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:02 SeventhPride wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:01 Vindicare605 wrote:
So this is the answer to the mass Muta clouds I've seen Soulkey use to stop this style of Mech.

Mass turrets to prevent the Zerg from forcing a base trade? Interesting.

Wasnt this the answer from the beginning? At least from my ladder games, terrans have been doing this.


I mean it was an answer that made sense on ladder but something I didn't know would translate to the pro level.


Clearly it does.

lol, guess you never know how strong turrets are. But yeah, they rip mutas like paper.


It's one of those things.

When I'm playing Terran Mutas seem to laugh at my Turrets. When I'm playing Zerg my Mutas get annihilated by them.

I never know objectively how to feel about them.

Were they upgraded? Building armor really makes a difference.
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 17 2014 12:10 GMT
#250
I feel like a nydus into the main would have been a hell of a lot better then flying mutas + vipers into a million turrets
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
March 17 2014 12:10 GMT
#251
On March 17 2014 21:09 Ammanas wrote:
This is basically the exact copy of BW TvP O_o

In BW, this was being fought with mass expanding and recalls into production whenever terran moved out. I think that's what zergs have to do against this, mass expand + nyduses into production while making cost innefective fights with SHs/burrowed roaches to stall the terran army and slowly chip them away.


Recall is much faster than growing a nydus...
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Rainmansc
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands216 Posts
March 17 2014 12:11 GMT
#252
There isnt even space in the terran base for a nydus.. Thats how many turrets are up...
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 12:12:00
March 17 2014 12:11 GMT
#253
On March 17 2014 21:10 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 21:09 Ammanas wrote:
This is basically the exact copy of BW TvP O_o

In BW, this was being fought with mass expanding and recalls into production whenever terran moved out. I think that's what zergs have to do against this, mass expand + nyduses into production while making cost innefective fights with SHs/burrowed roaches to stall the terran army and slowly chip them away.


Recall is much faster than growing a nydus...

Nydus can't get killed by turrets and there are no spider mines in terrans base at least.

On March 17 2014 21:11 Rainmansc wrote:
There isnt even space in the terran base for a nydus.. Thats how many turrets are up...

True. lol
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16123 Posts
March 17 2014 12:11 GMT
#254
On March 17 2014 21:10 gobbledydook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 21:09 Ammanas wrote:
This is basically the exact copy of BW TvP O_o

In BW, this was being fought with mass expanding and recalls into production whenever terran moved out. I think that's what zergs have to do against this, mass expand + nyduses into production while making cost innefective fights with SHs/burrowed roaches to stall the terran army and slowly chip them away.


Recall is much faster than growing a nydus...


Something Blizzard might want to consider addressing.

It's not like people haven't been clamoring for more Nydus play for a long time now.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 17 2014 12:11 GMT
#255
On March 17 2014 21:09 Ammanas wrote:
This is basically the exact copy of BW TvP O_o

In BW, this was being fought with mass expanding and recalls into production whenever terran moved out. I think that's what zergs have to do against this, mass expand + nyduses into production while making cost innefective fights with SHs/burrowed roaches to stall the terran army and slowly chip them away.


how do you even get a nydus off? To get vision to start the nydus, you have to get something through the turretwall. Which either means your nydus costs you 10 or more overlords + 100/100 - and can be stopped by single spawning unit, yes, even a spawning viking that gets landed.
Or you need to invest into mass muta to begin with that kills the turrets, but then you won't really have the army to attack through the nydus, given that you NEED swarm hosts too to not get 1a-ed.
SeventhPride
Profile Joined February 2012
712 Posts
March 17 2014 12:12 GMT
#256
On March 17 2014 21:10 bo1b wrote:
I feel like a nydus into the main would have been a hell of a lot better then flying mutas + vipers into a million turrets

Too easy to kill nydus. A handful of workers is more then enough to kill it, plus from terrans point of view, it seems like he covered all the fogs of war in his base
diverzee
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden992 Posts
March 17 2014 12:12 GMT
#257
On March 17 2014 21:07 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 21:07 juvenal wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:04 Lorning wrote:
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs Bbyong?

★- Do not see this game no matter what (3)
 
9%

★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do (7)
 
21%

★★★- Good game (13)
 
38%

★★★★- Highly recommended game (9)
 
26%

★★★★★- One of the best games this season (2)
 
6%

34 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs Bbyong?

(Vote): ★- Do not see this game no matter what
(Vote): ★★- Not recommended unless you have nothing better to do
(Vote): ★★★- Good game
(Vote): ★★★★- Highly recommended game
(Vote): ★★★★★- One of the best games this season


dat gaussian curve

It's a sideways middle finger, I guess people don't like Swarmhosts vs Mech

Not only are they boring, they're disgusting too. Little guys spawning out of blisters on its back...yuck
Parting
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 17 2014 12:12 GMT
#258
On March 17 2014 21:11 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 21:10 gobbledydook wrote:
On March 17 2014 21:09 Ammanas wrote:
This is basically the exact copy of BW TvP O_o

In BW, this was being fought with mass expanding and recalls into production whenever terran moved out. I think that's what zergs have to do against this, mass expand + nyduses into production while making cost innefective fights with SHs/burrowed roaches to stall the terran army and slowly chip them away.


Recall is much faster than growing a nydus...


Something Blizzard might want to consider addressing.

It's not like people haven't been clamoring for more Nydus play for a long time now.

I wonder if just making the armor scale with ground upgrades would help at all, cause at the moment they are sooo squishy it's unreal
Anlo
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden485 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 12:12:56
March 17 2014 12:12 GMT
#259
On March 17 2014 21:10 bo1b wrote:
I feel like a nydus into the main would have been a hell of a lot better then flying mutas + vipers into a million turrets


And Nydas is by far the coolest "unit" in the game, would love if it got used more often, even as standard. Would be action all over.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
March 17 2014 12:12 GMT
#260
t.t flying
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