[IEM] Grand Finals World Championships 2014 - Page 112
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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KaiserJohan
Sweden1808 Posts
On March 17 2014 01:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: Let me count the ways. 1) Players should actually get paid for their work and their achievements. Winner takes all is the complete antithesis of that. The least player friendly format you can possibly have 2) Running a winner takes all tournament during a period of noted imbalance is a sure fire way to piss off the viewers and rile people up. 3) Winner takes all tournament with single elimination format. The mind boggles. 4) This whole thing was a viewership gamble by ESL. It was contrary to Carmacs own thoughts on sustainability and the eSports "middle class", even if it was just a one off. The gamble didn't pay off. Viewership spiked in the finals for all of the 20 minutes it took for those finals to end. There was literally more downtime than games and it left everyone with a sour taste in their mouths. The viewership during the actual event was often lower than Cologne, which doesn't make a huge amount of sense to me, but whatever the case, the purpose of the winner takes all was to drive viewership and it failed to do that. If it had succeeded, I'd get behind it, sometimes viewership is more important even for the players and the teams, that exposure, that sponsorship ROI, super important (though not that ESL did anything to help that really since they're not even using team logos in Gameheart let alone the sponsor overlays), but in this case since it didn't achieve that objective either I'd consider it a failure. SC2 is in a fragile state and in order to make sure it can be sustained, we need tournaments that use fair, sustainable models. ESL said this was a one off, I hope it remains a one off. People always complain about imbalance. Single elim is more exciting to watch. If it wasnt such a shitty finals, I'm sure would voicing their opinions here would do a 180. It's unfortunate we didn't get a TvZ finals. | ||
ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
You don't know what you're speaking about. First of all, it wasn't a mirror matchup and winner takes it all final prize allocation. Secondly, it requires more skill than proxy gates and dt rush. | ||
Tamagoshi
Brazil981 Posts
On March 17 2014 01:27 Drake wrote: dont say players and fans there was players liking it i liking it too (first kor vs kor final i watched since 2011) so plz dont generalize ! Well, I bet sOs sure liked the format | ||
RookUK
United Kingdom283 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10107 Posts
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Snake.69
Canada140 Posts
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On March 17 2014 01:28 Musicus wrote: IEM cologne games were just as good imo and a better final. Players will try just as hard for 40k as for 100k. This guy right here gets it. Huge diminishing returns on grand prize after a certain point and it's a far lower threshold than this. | ||
Saumure
France404 Posts
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
Leenock beat girl and made girl smile and laugh. The Leenock difference. | ||
Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On March 17 2014 01:29 Godwrath wrote: I am amazed, i didn't know there were LoL players more awkward than sc2 players. Genja's a Ruskie who barely speaks any English at all ![]() Most of the people are fairly wellspoken, with some exceptions. It's more or less the same kind of people. | ||
DaedricTV
United Kingdom94 Posts
On March 17 2014 01:29 Snake.69 wrote:Them soundproof booths for sure stopped the cheeses. On the LoL stream yesterday, in the winner interview, one of the teams mentioned they could hear the crowd when they were in the booth. Just saying. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On March 17 2014 01:30 AlternativeEgo wrote: Leenock beat girl and made girl smile and laugh. The Leenock difference. Leenock much cuter. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On March 17 2014 01:28 KaiserJohan wrote: People always complain about imbalance. Single elim is more exciting to watch. If it wasnt such a shitty finals, I'm sure would voicing their opinions here would do a 180. It's unfortunate we didn't get a TvZ finals. None of that addresses why TB said it was a bad format. | ||
MysticaL
Canada118 Posts
- Bad finals - Top 3 should earn money | ||
Noocta
France12578 Posts
On March 17 2014 01:29 Godwrath wrote: I am amazed, i didn't know there were LoL players more awkward than sc2 players. Our SC2 players are starting to get a bit older, and a bit more used to being in the spotlight. LoL is still full of really young kids that have no idea how to act in public. | ||
kudlaty_true
Poland158 Posts
These are everything what is wrong with the game in a nutshell, basically. | ||
asongdotnet
United States1060 Posts
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Xinzoe
Korea (South)2373 Posts
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Nibbler89
884 Posts
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