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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 17 2014 08:58 GMT
#2501
On March 17 2014 17:28 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 16:30 fishjie wrote:
i wonder if this brutal loss will result in her0 going into a downward spiral. he looked crushed at the end there


[image loading]

don't worry!


Everyone looks happy in that photo - nawwwww
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
March 17 2014 09:01 GMT
#2502
On March 17 2014 16:22 Zorkmid wrote:
Why would the conversion rate mean anything at all to anyone but a statistician? Aren't advertisers after bums in seats? If LoL has like 60 million players each month and only gets 350,000 viewers, isn't that still 7 times what SC2 gets?

Why wouldn't LoL just start selling ad space right in the game client youtube style.


I think the point that TB and others are trying to make (i think, sorry if i am wrong) is that the 100K SC2 viewers are better or at least equal to 300K LoL viewers because they are a lot if you take into account how many (or less) people play the game.

Right now eSport is in a problematic transfer state between a little nerdy thing with big, risky money and a legit business. To get to that next step you need people to watch that don´t play the game and by the numbers SC2 is doing a way better job at this than LoL. Also you are looking into consistency and predictability. Yes SC2 is smaller but is the only running, still developing and supported economy based eSport RTS which gives a stable base on viewers. LoL on the other hand can be "riskier" to invest long term money into it.
I am not saying it will go away or it is a bad game but if you look at it there are dangers for it.
First it is not unique, Dota HoN or Heroes of the Storm share the same setting and mechanic. So what happens if "HotS" is super successful for some reason? Their players will most likely come from LoL rather than from the "less colorful" Dota or the "its a different game" SC2. Also the F2P market is extremely mobile in terms of popular things. Ask Zynga they were the "next big thing" gamingwise a couple of years ago and now... it didn´t went very well. Or flappybirds. Or Candycrush.
What i want to say is that RIOT has a way tougher job than blizzard because their players will go away faster if they screw up.

I don´t have access to detailed numbers but i think the people setting up these tournaments aren´t unhappy about the current state of SC2 especially because it seems to attract a different kind of audience to your shows than LoL, CS or Dota which your sponsors love.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 17 2014 09:10 GMT
#2503
On March 17 2014 17:28 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 16:30 fishjie wrote:
i wonder if this brutal loss will result in her0 going into a downward spiral. he looked crushed at the end there


[image loading]

don't worry!

Imagine smiling after losing out on winning 100k. What a guy
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 17 2014 09:23 GMT
#2504
On March 17 2014 17:28 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 16:30 fishjie wrote:
i wonder if this brutal loss will result in her0 going into a downward spiral. he looked crushed at the end there


[image loading]

don't worry!


lol nice. its a pretty brutal tournament to lose, good for him for being able to smile!
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
March 17 2014 11:55 GMT
#2505
On March 17 2014 18:23 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 17:28 sharkie wrote:
On March 17 2014 16:30 fishjie wrote:
i wonder if this brutal loss will result in her0 going into a downward spiral. he looked crushed at the end there


[image loading]

don't worry!


lol nice. its a pretty brutal tournament to lose, good for him for being able to smile!

He was definetely not smiling after he lost the series. Good on Carmac for cheering him up slightly
_whiteness_
Profile Joined June 2012
Brazil106 Posts
March 17 2014 13:21 GMT
#2506
No money for the second place is ridiculous!
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
March 17 2014 13:36 GMT
#2507
On March 17 2014 18:10 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 17:28 sharkie wrote:
On March 17 2014 16:30 fishjie wrote:
i wonder if this brutal loss will result in her0 going into a downward spiral. he looked crushed at the end there


[image loading]

don't worry!

Imagine smiling after losing out on winning 100k. What a guy


He still got monitor and stuff :D
Can't be completely sad.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 14:25:14
March 17 2014 14:21 GMT
#2508
On March 17 2014 22:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 18:10 bo1b wrote:
On March 17 2014 17:28 sharkie wrote:
On March 17 2014 16:30 fishjie wrote:
i wonder if this brutal loss will result in her0 going into a downward spiral. he looked crushed at the end there


[image loading]

don't worry!

Imagine smiling after losing out on winning 100k. What a guy


He still got monitor and stuff :D
Can't be completely sad.


And 800 of them sweet WCS points.

Edit: Looks like he is pretty much guaranteed a spot at the Global finals now. That's money. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Standings
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
SonGoku
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany152 Posts
March 17 2014 14:37 GMT
#2509
are there replays avalible?
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
March 17 2014 14:39 GMT
#2510
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/446325-iem-world-championship-replays
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 15:30:25
March 17 2014 15:29 GMT
#2511
On March 17 2014 23:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 22:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On March 17 2014 18:10 bo1b wrote:
On March 17 2014 17:28 sharkie wrote:
On March 17 2014 16:30 fishjie wrote:
i wonder if this brutal loss will result in her0 going into a downward spiral. he looked crushed at the end there


[image loading]

don't worry!

Imagine smiling after losing out on winning 100k. What a guy


He still got monitor and stuff :D
Can't be completely sad.


And 800 of them sweet WCS points.

Edit: Looks like he is pretty much guaranteed a spot at the Global finals now. That's money. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Standings


Oh dude, it's just March. And considering fact that this year tournaments cost way more than last time, everything can be changed 100 times, especially by those Koreans like Stardust, Hyun and other who spend time on foreign soil. But if sOs/herO wins this season of Code S, then i agree, it's pretty much guaranteed spot even if they go and spend other 5 months on Maldives or somewhere like that.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 17 2014 16:51 GMT
#2512
On March 18 2014 00:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 23:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On March 17 2014 18:10 bo1b wrote:
On March 17 2014 17:28 sharkie wrote:
On March 17 2014 16:30 fishjie wrote:
i wonder if this brutal loss will result in her0 going into a downward spiral. he looked crushed at the end there


[image loading]

don't worry!

Imagine smiling after losing out on winning 100k. What a guy


He still got monitor and stuff :D
Can't be completely sad.


And 800 of them sweet WCS points.

Edit: Looks like he is pretty much guaranteed a spot at the Global finals now. That's money. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Standings


Oh dude, it's just March. And considering fact that this year tournaments cost way more than last time, everything can be changed 100 times, especially by those Koreans like Stardust, Hyun and other who spend time on foreign soil. But if sOs/herO wins this season of Code S, then i agree, it's pretty much guaranteed spot even if they go and spend other 5 months on Maldives or somewhere like that.


I dunno, we don't have season finals these year so a lot of points have been taken away so the cutoff will likely be lower. Even if they lose in Ro8 this season, as long as they don't bomb in season 2, they are probably in.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-17 22:09:03
March 17 2014 19:53 GMT
#2513
On March 18 2014 01:51 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 00:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On March 17 2014 18:10 bo1b wrote:
On March 17 2014 17:28 sharkie wrote:
On March 17 2014 16:30 fishjie wrote:
i wonder if this brutal loss will result in her0 going into a downward spiral. he looked crushed at the end there


[image loading]

don't worry!

Imagine smiling after losing out on winning 100k. What a guy


He still got monitor and stuff :D
Can't be completely sad.


And 800 of them sweet WCS points.

Edit: Looks like he is pretty much guaranteed a spot at the Global finals now. That's money. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Standings


Oh dude, it's just March. And considering fact that this year tournaments cost way more than last time, everything can be changed 100 times, especially by those Koreans like Stardust, Hyun and other who spend time on foreign soil. But if sOs/herO wins this season of Code S, then i agree, it's pretty much guaranteed spot even if they go and spend other 5 months on Maldives or somewhere like that.


I dunno, we don't have season finals these year so a lot of points have been taken away so the cutoff will likely be lower. Even if they lose in Ro8 this season, as long as they don't bomb in season 2, they are probably in.


Considering level of competition in Code S, oh boy oh boy.
Only guy on who i could bet my money in Code S was Soulkey but even he bombed before Ro8 this time.
And sOs, as much as i love him, you can't play as godlike as he always.

Just look.
We will have bunch of Dreamhacks, bunch of IEMs, MLG Anaheim, what else. HomeStory Cups, some other tournaments + 2 seasons of WCS with this season not finished as well.
Tons of points but i guess, there will be same or close to same pattern this year - ~3000-3300 points
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
March 17 2014 20:15 GMT
#2514
On March 18 2014 04:53 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 01:51 vthree wrote:
On March 18 2014 00:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On March 17 2014 23:21 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On March 17 2014 22:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On March 17 2014 18:10 bo1b wrote:
On March 17 2014 17:28 sharkie wrote:
On March 17 2014 16:30 fishjie wrote:
i wonder if this brutal loss will result in her0 going into a downward spiral. he looked crushed at the end there


[image loading]

don't worry!

Imagine smiling after losing out on winning 100k. What a guy


He still got monitor and stuff :D
Can't be completely sad.


And 800 of them sweet WCS points.

Edit: Looks like he is pretty much guaranteed a spot at the Global finals now. That's money. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_StarCraft_II_World_Championship_Series/Standings


Oh dude, it's just March. And considering fact that this year tournaments cost way more than last time, everything can be changed 100 times, especially by those Koreans like Stardust, Hyun and other who spend time on foreign soil. But if sOs/herO wins this season of Code S, then i agree, it's pretty much guaranteed spot even if they go and spend other 5 months on Maldives or somewhere like that.


I dunno, we don't have season finals these year so a lot of points have been taken away so the cutoff will likely be lower. Even if they lose in Ro8 this season, as long as they don't bomb in season 2, they are probably in.


Considering level of competition in Code S, oh boy oh boy.
Only guy on who i could bet my money in Code S was Soulkey but even he bombed before Ro8 this time.
And sOs, as much as i love him, you can't play as godlike as he is always.

Just look.
We will have bunch of Dreamhacks, bunch of IEMs, MLG Anaheim, what else. HomeStory Cups, some other tournaments + 2 seasons of WCS with this season not finished as well.
Tons of points but i guess, there will be same or close to same pattern this year - ~3000-3300 points

Of course not, 65k is way too low for sOs standards
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
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