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werynais
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1780 Posts
March 16 2014 16:23 GMT
#2181
On March 17 2014 01:22 stuchiu wrote:
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On March 17 2014 01:22 RatzBarcode wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The winner takes all gamble was a disaster. Let's never do that again. 4 days of wins for herO pissed down the drain in 20 minutes of the worst final in history, jesus.


They split the money, right? Right?


No. herO didn't want to?


Are you really that dense? Do you think anyone would announce that publicly ?
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
March 16 2014 16:23 GMT
#2182
On March 17 2014 01:18 Tobblish wrote:
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On March 17 2014 01:16 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Huge viewership!

And even the main stream broke 100 k
[image loading]


Just a fyi you have to go by the viewers on the Stream page ie http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_sc2 not that one, it is heavily delayed and adds up the numbers funny compared to removing. (iirc this is how you can tell if theres a lot of viewer bots as well)

Stream said 101k for me
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
March 16 2014 16:23 GMT
#2183
Here's to Rain and his incredible standard play without this gimmicky shit (granted we've all seen him do it, just rarely)!
ThomasR
Profile Joined January 2012
764 Posts
March 16 2014 16:23 GMT
#2184
On March 17 2014 01:23 VmY wrote:
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On March 17 2014 01:23 ThomasR wrote:
why's the stream suddenly offline wtf


No more starcraft!

oh damn i got home too late @_@
i thought it started an hour ago
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
March 16 2014 16:23 GMT
#2185
On March 17 2014 01:19 lichter wrote:
Sorry people, as LR Batman, I deny your claims of sOs' villain-ness


Ain't happening kids
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
March 16 2014 16:23 GMT
#2186
On March 17 2014 01:22 FakePseudo wrote:
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On March 17 2014 01:16 stuchiu wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:15 KaiserJohan wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The winner takes all gamble was a disaster. Let's never do that again.


Why so? except for the PvP, this tournament format was alot more interesting. Protoss is just boring to watch.


Because the finals are basically the end The culmination of a tournamet of how a tournament is remembered. When we look back on this in 6 months it won't be my god that Jjakji vs Revival series was godly, it will be remember that time sOs proxy double gated his way to 100k. Thanks IEM!


Just like noone remembers scarlett bomber, or polt's run at iem köln, right?


Not comparable, neither of those were winner takes all events. The focus this event was on who wins the grand prize, not on the road that got them there. That's the unfortunate reality of running an event with that format. You hype up the $100k this much, you don't get to complain when that's what people focus on.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 16 2014 16:23 GMT
#2187
On March 17 2014 01:23 Fusilero wrote:
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On March 17 2014 01:22 stuchiu wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:21 vthree wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:19 NovaTheFeared wrote:
I haven't been following the HotS scene, has there ever been a worse final than this in a major tournament?


Inca v Nestea


We got to go back to WoL year 1. DAmnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

I think people forget how bad marineking vs MVP was, it was pretty much MVP breaking marineking before the matches even began and laughing to the bank.

What'd MVP do?
kiss kiss fall in love
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 16 2014 16:23 GMT
#2188
On March 17 2014 01:22 FakePseudo wrote:
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On March 17 2014 01:16 stuchiu wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:15 KaiserJohan wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The winner takes all gamble was a disaster. Let's never do that again.


Why so? except for the PvP, this tournament format was alot more interesting. Protoss is just boring to watch.


Because the finals are basically the end The culmination of a tournamet of how a tournament is remembered. When we look back on this in 6 months it won't be my god that Jjakji vs Revival series was godly, it will be remember that time sOs proxy double gated his way to 100k. Thanks IEM!


Just like noone remembers scarlett bomber, or polt's run at iem köln, right?


Well I had to write two articles about Duckdeok's and sOs' run at Blizzcon before anyone would even talk about it instead of Jaedong at Blizzcon.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
March 16 2014 16:23 GMT
#2189
On March 17 2014 01:22 stuchiu wrote:
sOs didnt do anything to achieve Sniper status.

cheesing out fan favorites in 2 premiere finals to get 100k for each is nothing?

"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Ryncol
Profile Joined July 2011
United States980 Posts
March 16 2014 16:23 GMT
#2190
On March 17 2014 01:19 TotalBiscuit wrote:
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On March 17 2014 01:14 Nomzter wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The winner takes all gamble was a disaster. Let's never do that again.

Why?


Let me count the ways.

1) Players should actually get paid for their work and their achievements. Winner takes all is the complete antithesis of that. The least player friendly format you can possibly have

2) Running a winner takes all tournament during a period of noted imbalance is a sure fire way to piss off the viewers and rile people up.

3) Winner takes all tournament with single elimination format. The mind boggles.

4) This whole thing was a viewership gamble by ESL. It was contrary to Carmacs own thoughts on sustainability and the eSports "middle class", even if it was just a one off. The gamble didn't pay off. Viewership spiked in the finals for all of the 20 minutes it took for those finals to end. There was literally more downtime than games and it left everyone with a sour taste in their mouths. The viewership during the actual event was often lower than Cologne, which doesn't make a huge amount of sense to me, but whatever the case, the purpose of the winner takes all was to drive viewership and it failed to do that. If it had succeeded, I'd get behind it, sometimes viewership is more important even for the players and the teams, that exposure, that sponsorship ROI, super important (though not that ESL did anything to help that really since they're not even using team logos in Gameheart let alone the sponsor overlays), but in this case since it didn't achieve that objective either I'd consider it a failure.

SC2 is in a fragile state and in order to make sure it can be sustained, we need tournaments that use fair, sustainable models. ESL said this was a one off, I hope it remains a one off.


/salute, I agree with you completely
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 16 2014 16:23 GMT
#2191
On March 17 2014 01:23 ThomasR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 01:23 VmY wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:23 ThomasR wrote:
why's the stream suddenly offline wtf


No more starcraft!

oh damn i got home too late @_@
i thought it started an hour ago

It did....
Neosteel Enthusiast
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Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
March 16 2014 16:23 GMT
#2192
On March 17 2014 01:21 BlackCompany wrote:
Streams offline? i thoguth all other finals are on the stream aswell?

esl has twitch accounts for sc2, lol, and other games.

they are switching their accounts.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
VmY
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands1286 Posts
March 16 2014 16:23 GMT
#2193
On March 17 2014 01:23 DamageControL wrote:
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On March 17 2014 01:23 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:22 Koesader wrote:
$O$ is the new Sniper T_T

Nah not really. He didn't make any girls cry or call out terrans for being entitled on his way to the top.

who'd sniper make cry?


(P)Eve
Why can't I quit you, siege tank? FanTaSy, Mvp.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 16:24:17
March 16 2014 16:24 GMT
#2194
On March 17 2014 01:23 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 01:23 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:22 Koesader wrote:
$O$ is the new Sniper T_T

Nah not really. He didn't make any girls cry or call out terrans for being entitled on his way to the top.

who'd sniper make cry?

SlayerS Eve in SlayerS final gstl match
Moderatorlickypiddy
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 16 2014 16:24 GMT
#2195
On March 17 2014 01:23 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 01:23 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:22 Koesader wrote:
$O$ is the new Sniper T_T

Nah not really. He didn't make any girls cry or call out terrans for being entitled on his way to the top.

who'd sniper make cry?

SlayersEve
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
March 16 2014 16:24 GMT
#2196
On March 17 2014 01:14 DaedricTV wrote:
You see, you people have never been in a competitive experience in your life, hence why you can't understand how good that series was.


Actually I've played in a World Cup final (not StarCraft obv.). What's your claim to fame?
Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not. 파이팅! ᕦ(ò_óˇ)ᕤ"
DaedricTV
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom94 Posts
March 16 2014 16:24 GMT
#2197
sOs deserved the win, he was the better player. I really don't get why people are getting so upset, these games were intense and compelling.

herO lost this series by not scouting, getting titled and then making bad decisions.

Overall it had it's entertainment.
FPyro
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany47 Posts
March 16 2014 16:24 GMT
#2198
Winner takes all is such bullsh*t, why do they even do that? All the players leave empty handed, except the player who already won Blizzcon, that seems really unfair to me, especially since he's toss and all zergs died so early
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
March 16 2014 16:24 GMT
#2199
On March 17 2014 01:23 75 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 01:21 BlackCompany wrote:
Streams offline? i thoguth all other finals are on the stream aswell?

esl has twitch accounts for sc2, lol, and other games.

they are switching their accounts.


Ah, that makes sense.
Thanks!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10135 Posts
March 16 2014 16:25 GMT
#2200
On March 17 2014 01:23 DamageControL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 01:23 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:22 Koesader wrote:
$O$ is the new Sniper T_T

Nah not really. He didn't make any girls cry or call out terrans for being entitled on his way to the top.

who'd sniper make cry?

eve
He has no soul.
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