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[IEM] Grand Finals World Championships 2014 - Page 111

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Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 16 2014 16:25 GMT
#2201
On March 17 2014 01:23 SaltySam wrote:
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On March 17 2014 01:08 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:08 SaltySam wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:06 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:05 Saumure wrote:
lol mirror match in the finals... so unfair

Actually I find mirror matches to be pretty balanced overall.
That's not what he meant...

I am aware I chose to ignore what he meant
Oh, I see. I can respect that.

Seemed like the quickest way to defuse the situation
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
March 16 2014 16:25 GMT
#2202
too bad the final was utter shit but it was expected

the winner take all was a nice experiment but please never do it again.....
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
March 16 2014 16:25 GMT
#2203
zero for herO.
keep it deep! @zulison
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 16 2014 16:25 GMT
#2204
On March 17 2014 01:24 Rustug wrote:
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On March 17 2014 01:14 DaedricTV wrote:
You see, you people have never been in a competitive experience in your life, hence why you can't understand how good that series was.


Actually I've played in a World Cup final (not StarCraft obv.). What's your claim to fame?

Making assumptions about other people over the internet and generally shitty posts probably.
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
March 16 2014 16:26 GMT
#2205
On March 17 2014 01:20 Spec wrote:
Protoss balance issues + PvP being non-entertaining might just be the perfect cocktail to kill something.


You're right. I've never been away from the scene so long as of late. I watched Polt vs Hero yesterday by accident, and realized just how terrible painful it is to see SC2 right now. If I was in hell, I'd imagined myself being a professional Terran player.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 16:26:30
March 16 2014 16:26 GMT
#2206
On March 17 2014 01:23 stuchiu wrote:
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On March 17 2014 01:22 FakePseudo wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:16 stuchiu wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:15 KaiserJohan wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The winner takes all gamble was a disaster. Let's never do that again.


Why so? except for the PvP, this tournament format was alot more interesting. Protoss is just boring to watch.


Because the finals are basically the end The culmination of a tournamet of how a tournament is remembered. When we look back on this in 6 months it won't be my god that Jjakji vs Revival series was godly, it will be remember that time sOs proxy double gated his way to 100k. Thanks IEM!


Just like noone remembers scarlett bomber, or polt's run at iem köln, right?


Well I had to write two articles about Duckdeok's and sOs' run at Blizzcon before anyone would even talk about it instead of Jaedong at Blizzcon.

sOs beat the true champion in the ro4. He would obviously win Blizzcon.
The Bomber boy
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18385 Posts
March 16 2014 16:26 GMT
#2207
So players didn't like WTA, fans didn't like WTA.
IEM only gets bad reputation, good job IEM? haha
DaedricTV
Profile Joined February 2014
United Kingdom94 Posts
March 16 2014 16:26 GMT
#2208
On March 17 2014 01:25 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 01:24 Rustug wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:14 DaedricTV wrote:
You see, you people have never been in a competitive experience in your life, hence why you can't understand how good that series was.


Actually I've played in a World Cup final (not StarCraft obv.). What's your claim to fame?

Making assumptions about other people over the internet and generally shitty posts probably.


Your posts are getting a little too bitter, can't we just be friends?
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
March 16 2014 16:26 GMT
#2209
well deserved for sOs...the kid is amazing.
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
March 16 2014 16:26 GMT
#2210
LOL

sOs is ONE RICH MOFO.

Between blizz finals and this. $O$
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 16 2014 16:26 GMT
#2211
On March 17 2014 01:23 Ragnarork wrote:
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On March 17 2014 01:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The winner takes all gamble was a disaster. Let's never do that again. 4 days of wins for herO pissed down the drain in 20 minutes of the worst final in history, jesus.


Though I feel really bad for herO (and I was cheering for him), and though this final was by many standards quite poor (though not by the series planning one, sOs played that really well), I still think it was something to try out once. And I think this is the reason for which we got so many awesome games in the bracket, but in the current metagame with a lot of protoss, that could also lead (and it did) to such a final. So I wouldn't call that a disaster, but rather an experience with its drawbacks and its advantages.

Because let's be honest. It's a shame, but if you want people to give it all, you got to put a lot of money on the table. Make it this "allin-ish", and you'll get some of the best SC2.

I'm totally not in favor of doing this often, though. Once a year could be a good frequency.


Except the games at IEM Cologne were just as good. There is no hard evidence that WTA produces better games because the players are trying 'harder'. Let say we have a tournament where the loser actually loses money, will the games be better? I don't believe so.
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2012 Posts
March 16 2014 16:27 GMT
#2212
On March 17 2014 01:21 Slomo wrote:
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On March 17 2014 01:17 Sakray wrote:
No winner interview ? Wtf
And I missed the games, what were the build used ?

Game1: Proxy 2 gates in herOs base from sOs.
Game2: Proxy 2 gates in herOs base from sOs.
Game3: Blink all in from sOs, DTs from herO. sOs saw the DTs and ggd. No units were harmed in the progression of this game.
Game4: Blind nexus first from sOs, herO with a 3 gate blink all in. All in failed due to a Robo sOs built.
Game5: Failed proxy gate from herO.

Took me longer to write down, than the games actually lasted.


Atleast game 3 was really good, and both player could have won that till sOs cleared his base
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
March 16 2014 16:27 GMT
#2213
pvp LOL!!
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
March 16 2014 16:27 GMT
#2214
If hero wouldn't have gotten stomped by it two games in a row this would have looked a lot different imo. But why should sOs risk a long game, if hero sucks at short ones?
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
March 16 2014 16:27 GMT
#2215
On March 17 2014 01:22 Koesader wrote:
$O$ is the new Sniper T_T


Lol s0s is now officiall $O$
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 16 2014 16:27 GMT
#2216
On March 17 2014 01:23 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 01:23 Fusilero wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:22 stuchiu wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:21 vthree wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:19 NovaTheFeared wrote:
I haven't been following the HotS scene, has there ever been a worse final than this in a major tournament?


Inca v Nestea


We got to go back to WoL year 1. DAmnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

I think people forget how bad marineking vs MVP was, it was pretty much MVP breaking marineking before the matches even began and laughing to the bank.

What'd MVP do?

Wasn't as much what MVP did as much as what MKP didn't do. Which was anything, he just kinda rolled over.
Glorious SEA doto
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
March 16 2014 16:27 GMT
#2217
On March 17 2014 01:23 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 01:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The winner takes all gamble was a disaster. Let's never do that again. 4 days of wins for herO pissed down the drain in 20 minutes of the worst final in history, jesus.


Because let's be honest. It's a shame, but if you want people to give it all, you got to put a lot of money on the table. Make it this "allin-ish", and you'll get some of the best SC2.


These finals were more anti - SC2 than any finals I can remember. It is not like early WoL days when nobody knew how to play and what creep spread is. It was basically a ruthless "slaughter" for the money.

And people who just kept looking at that viewer count should realize that at everything above 60-70k were probably not your regular SC2 viewers at all.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 16:28:14
March 16 2014 16:27 GMT
#2218
On March 17 2014 01:26 sharkie wrote:
So players didn't like WTA, fans didn't like WTA.
IEM only gets bad reputation, good job IEM? haha


dont say players and fans
there was players liking it
i liking it too (first kor vs kor final i watched since 2011)

so plz dont generalize !
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
March 16 2014 16:28 GMT
#2219
On March 17 2014 01:26 DaedricTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 01:25 Darkhorse wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:24 Rustug wrote:
On March 17 2014 01:14 DaedricTV wrote:
You see, you people have never been in a competitive experience in your life, hence why you can't understand how good that series was.


Actually I've played in a World Cup final (not StarCraft obv.). What's your claim to fame?

Making assumptions about other people over the internet and generally shitty posts probably.


Your posts are getting a little too bitter, can't we just be friends?

You're not showing much understanding for how friendship usually works...
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 16 2014 16:28 GMT
#2220
On March 17 2014 01:23 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 01:14 TotalBiscuit wrote:
The winner takes all gamble was a disaster. Let's never do that again. 4 days of wins for herO pissed down the drain in 20 minutes of the worst final in history, jesus.


Though I feel really bad for herO (and I was cheering for him), and though this final was by many standards quite poor (though not by the series planning one, sOs played that really well), I still think it was something to try out once. And I think this is the reason for which we got so many awesome games in the bracket, but in the current metagame with a lot of protoss, that could also lead (and it did) to such a final. So I wouldn't call that a disaster, but rather an experience with its drawbacks and its advantages.

Because let's be honest. It's a shame, but if you want people to give it all, you got to put a lot of money on the table. Make it this "allin-ish", and you'll get some of the best SC2.

I'm totally not in favor of doing this often, though. Once a year could be a good frequency.


IEM cologne games were just as good imo and a better final. Players will try just as hard for 40k as for 100k.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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