On March 17 2014 01:19 Darkhorse wrote:
Oh come on there were other good games. Revival vs Jjakji? Taeja vs Life? and more.
Oh come on there were other good games. Revival vs Jjakji? Taeja vs Life? and more.
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Wintex
Norway16836 Posts
March 16 2014 16:20 GMT
#2141
On March 17 2014 01:19 Darkhorse wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2014 01:19 Dwayn wrote: Probably the most disappointing tourny i've watched so far. The only good series was the very first between hyun and hero, the others were either 'ok' or just plain bad. First day and finals have been particulary bad. Oh come on there were other good games. Revival vs Jjakji? Taeja vs Life? and more. Alzheimers Also: + Show Spoiler + ![]() | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 16 2014 16:20 GMT
#2142
On March 17 2014 01:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2014 01:14 TotalBiscuit wrote: The winner takes all gamble was a disaster. Let's never do that again. 4 days of wins for herO pissed down the drain in 20 minutes of the worst final in history, jesus. I disagree with the Winner Take All idea just on the principle that it screws over everyone else (and apparently is only used to increase entertainment value, rather than help the pro-gamers), regardless of how good or bad this final is. But this final certainly didn't help make the case for a WTA format lol. WTA format is basically gambling on the finals since it places all importance on that one series. | ||
Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
March 16 2014 16:20 GMT
#2143
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
March 16 2014 16:20 GMT
#2144
On March 17 2014 01:19 Dwayn wrote: Probably the most disappointing tourny i've watched so far. The only good series was the very first between hyun and hero, the others were either 'ok' or just plain bad. First day and finals have been particulary bad. Plenty of other good games/series. | ||
Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
March 16 2014 16:20 GMT
#2145
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
March 16 2014 16:20 GMT
#2146
Loved the venue, loved the staff - some fucking awesome series, some crazy series, some horrible series... and the finals was just hilarious. 8/10 - would watch again next year. | ||
Jisira
470 Posts
March 16 2014 16:20 GMT
#2147
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SpaceChick
173 Posts
March 16 2014 16:21 GMT
#2148
On March 17 2014 01:18 ForTehDarkseid wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2014 01:14 virpi wrote: The games might not have been entertaining, but seriously, there have lots and lots of similar finals in the past. Remember the cheesefests in broodwar? There wasn't something like these finals in BW yet. And it will never be. Boxer disagreed. | ||
NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
March 16 2014 16:21 GMT
#2149
On March 17 2014 01:20 InspiredFrog wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2014 01:18 ForTehDarkseid wrote: On March 17 2014 01:14 virpi wrote: The games might not have been entertaining, but seriously, there have lots and lots of similar finals in the past. Remember the cheesefests in broodwar? There wasn't something like these finals in BW yet. And it will never be. Imagine if someone had triple bunker rushed his way into victory in a finals. Semi finals? | ||
AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
March 16 2014 16:21 GMT
#2150
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12018 Posts
March 16 2014 16:21 GMT
#2151
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Kerence
Sweden1817 Posts
March 16 2014 16:21 GMT
#2152
On March 17 2014 01:19 TotalBiscuit wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2014 01:14 Nomzter wrote: On March 17 2014 01:14 TotalBiscuit wrote: The winner takes all gamble was a disaster. Let's never do that again. Why? Let me count the ways. 1) Players should actually get paid for their work and their achievements. Winner takes all is the complete antithesis of that. The least player friendly format you can possibly have 2) Running a winner takes all tournament during a period of noted imbalance is a sure fire way to piss off the viewers and rile people up. 3) Winner takes all tournament with single elimination format. The mind boggles. 4) This whole thing was a viewership gamble by ESL. It was contradictory to Carmacs own thoughts on sustainability and the eSports "middle class", even if it was just a one off. The gamble didn't pay off. Viewership spiked in the finals for all of the 20 minutes it took for those finals to end. There was literally more downtime than games and it left everyone with a sour taste in their mouths. The viewership during the actual event was often lower than Cologne, which doesn't make a huge amount of sense to me, but whatever the case, the purpose of the winner takes all was to drive viewership and it failed to do that. If it had succeeded, I'd get behind it, sometimes viewership is more important even for the players and the teams, that exposure, that sponsorship ROI, super important (though not that ESL did anything to help that really since they're not even using team logos in Gameheart let alone the sponsor overlays), but in this case since it didn't achieve that objective either I'd consider it a failure. SC2 is in a fragile state and in order to make sure it can be sustained, we need tournaments that use fair, sustainable models. ESL said this was a one off, I hope it remains a one off. Thanks for the insight! | ||
vinsang1000
Belgium365 Posts
March 16 2014 16:21 GMT
#2153
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Slomo
Germany7198 Posts
March 16 2014 16:21 GMT
#2154
On March 17 2014 01:17 Sakray wrote: No winner interview ? Wtf And I missed the games, what were the build used ? Game1: Proxy 2 gates in herOs base from sOs. Game2: Proxy 2 gates in herOs base from sOs. Game3: Blink all in from sOs, DTs from herO. sOs saw the DTs and ggd. No units were harmed in the progression of this game. Game4: Blind nexus first from sOs, herO with a 3 gate blink all in. All in failed due to a Robo sOs built. Game5: Failed proxy gate from herO. Took me longer to write down, than the games actually lasted. | ||
vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 16 2014 16:21 GMT
#2155
On March 17 2014 01:19 NovaTheFeared wrote: I haven't been following the HotS scene, has there ever been a worse final than this in a major tournament? Inca v Nestea | ||
covetousrat
2109 Posts
March 16 2014 16:21 GMT
#2156
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BlackCompany
Germany8388 Posts
March 16 2014 16:21 GMT
#2157
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Xinzoe
Korea (South)2373 Posts
March 16 2014 16:21 GMT
#2158
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InspiredFrog
Finland522 Posts
March 16 2014 16:21 GMT
#2159
On March 17 2014 01:21 NicksonReyes wrote: Show nested quote + On March 17 2014 01:20 InspiredFrog wrote: On March 17 2014 01:18 ForTehDarkseid wrote: On March 17 2014 01:14 virpi wrote: The games might not have been entertaining, but seriously, there have lots and lots of similar finals in the past. Remember the cheesefests in broodwar? There wasn't something like these finals in BW yet. And it will never be. Imagine if someone had triple bunker rushed his way into victory in a finals. Semi finals? My bad. But the point still stands :D | ||
Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
March 16 2014 16:21 GMT
#2160
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