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On March 16 2014 06:44 ESTeGo wrote:
Blizzard really needs to take care of the map pool better. The blink play renders it so useful thanks to these maps not because toss is op. There are other issues with the maps as well like the unbalanced gas mining
this is also true, but I still think making Time Warp an upgrade at Twilight Council would solve a lot of problems with Blink. It still makes Blink strong, but not undefendable, and if you want TW with your Blink attack you just need to get an extra TC and upgrade both at the same time, which will make you have less stalkers and slow down the timing, or just go without it which will make the attack less strong. And it still allows them to have it for the late game and keep PO for defense. Just a suggestion but I'm not a pro so Blizzard won't listen to me 
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On March 16 2014 06:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past. It was never this bad. There was anger during the days of GOMTvT and BL/infestor, but there is a level of disgust now that is unparalleled in the history of the SC2 community.
You are blinded by the fact that you are protoss. It was just as awful in BL/Infestor times.
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No matter how bad my dislike of the state of Protoss gets, I just CANNOT dislike Liquid_Hero
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On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past.
I think it's worse now because the Protoss strategies that people are complaining about are difficult to scout, there's several possibilities so you can't prepare for all of them, and sometimes even if you scout them they're impossible to hold on certain maps. Kind of like Parting's old soul train but now every Protoss can do it against any Terran. Brood Lord Infestor at least you could stop before it got to that point, and Terran dominance never felt like it was due to any specific build or strategy (except really early shit like BBS and 1-1-1s that got nerfed into the ground, and people were just worse in general back then anyway).
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On March 16 2014 06:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past. It was never this bad. There was anger during the days of GOMTvT and BL/infestor, but there is a level of disgust now that is unparalleled in the history of the SC2 community.
The term "patch_insertRace" was basically forged during BL-INF.
Yeah it was not bad at all...
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On March 16 2014 06:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past. It was never this bad. There was anger during the days of GOMTvT and BL/infestor, but there is a level of disgust now that is unparalleled in the history of the SC2 community.
Nah you're imagining things ;D
I just think mods were more effective at shutting down LR insurrections back during BL-infestor times. But goddamn thank god that zerg dominance era is over...
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protoss so cheap... just blink all in terrans and gogo 100k
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On March 16 2014 06:41 Frex wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2014 06:37 tshi wrote:On March 16 2014 06:36 DavoS wrote:
Yeah bye IEM. I'm sorry guys nothing against you but there's no entertainment value in more PvP Yeah, their giant prize pool bringing eyes to it is getting torpedoed by (THEPOWEROF) Protoss v Protoss : ( I just hope the viewer numbers drop for the finals so the organizers will figure that 100k winner takes it all does not improve the quality of the tournament.
except that if this was a fan favorite, or mixed finals, it would get great viewership... so it doesnt technically worsen it either.
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On March 16 2014 06:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2014 06:45 Frex wrote:On March 16 2014 06:42 Sakkreth wrote:
So much whining, grow up. PvP is awesome. This year we have had 7 protoss and 1 terran in Premier tournament finals. It makes me mad. Also, would you tell the people of Ukraine to grow up because they are whining at their goverment? Oh my god he's actually comparing PvP finals to Ukrainian Crisis this is amazing.
What's so off about it? David Kim is literally ruining the lives of many players who are trying to make a living off of playing a competitive game? That's about the same, right?
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he's just mad because he got owned
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On March 16 2014 06:44 Zheryn wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2014 06:40 Greenei wrote:
The worst part is that sOs didn't even play it perfectly. He fumbled 1-2 Stalkers unneccesarily... Well, if Taeja had played perfectly he'd have held, but he made even more mistakes than sOs wasting 1-2 stalkers.
Not really. He got his Bunkers and Marauders up after he scanned the allin. There is really nothing else he can do. And don't say sensor towers or I will punch you through your monitor.
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On March 16 2014 06:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2014 06:45 Frex wrote:On March 16 2014 06:42 Sakkreth wrote:
So much whining, grow up. PvP is awesome. This year we have had 7 protoss and 1 terran in Premier tournament finals. It makes me mad. Also, would you tell the people of Ukraine to grow up because they are whining at their goverment? Oh my god he's actually comparing PvP finals to Ukrainian Crisis this is amazing.
I even put it on my signature
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On March 16 2014 06:44 Darkhorse wrote:
Imagine if one of these players wins this and GSL. They will make like 150k+ in the span of a few weeks.
I think that winning both would nearly guarantee a spot a Blizzcon as well
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On March 16 2014 06:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past. It was never this bad. There was anger during the days of GOMTvT and BL/infestor, but there is a level of disgust now that is unparalleled in the history of the SC2 community.
I disagree, bl/infestor was worse because blizzard did nothing to change it for 7-8+ months and even when they changed it, it was still ridiculously overpowered.
Let me know when there's a thread like this for hots protoss
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/385876-lings-of-liberty-the-rise-of-the-patchzergs
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On March 16 2014 06:47 ssxsilver wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past. Yes. Hardcore Protoss players may feel otherwise, but the hate vs Terran and Zerg was just as bad. Hell even a TL admin was bitching about Zerg on twitter at the time of BL/Infestor.
well, nowadays even casters hate protoss (more than one time said in this tournament and artosis famous quote "a bullet in starcrafts head would be better than 15 protoss in the gsl ro16"), so i think this is way worse than the hate against terran and zerg back in their respective days.
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But didn't he cheese 3 games in a row vs Innovation at IEM Cologne lel
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On March 16 2014 06:46 BlackCompany wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2014 06:44 Incognoto wrote:On March 16 2014 06:43 BlackCompany wrote:On March 16 2014 06:41 aZealot wrote:On March 16 2014 06:39 BlackCompany wrote:
People get really fucking mad over this
Holy hell SC2 is serious business. :D Probably :o But i can relate, i got almost as mad as most people here are over a soccer match this afternoon see this is why i'm snarky vs soccer. because people get mad. over a game. when they're not the atheletes. But..but.. im a fan! No, i understand. I am watching from home mostly, this way i can get mad and noone else has to care I hate those people going into the stadium and when their team looses they go and try to start a fight with the fans from the other team
That's nothing. We got ST's and Primers fighting even if no one on their rosters are playing.
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On March 16 2014 06:43 Ammanas wrote:
I wonder how they plan to nerf blink push without influencing a) other matchups b) strength of blink in mid and late game, where it is fine and in a lot of cases even necessary to survive.
Reworking the maps is probably the easiest solution. Everything else will have some effect on other match ups. If not maps, maybe a higher research time on blink? But that would affect PvP.
But at the end of the day, if Blizzard still thinks blink is too good, they won't care how it will affect other match ups. The immortal range buff changed PvZ and they still did it.
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Haha this tweet. So sympathetic toward his TL bro :'(
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On March 16 2014 06:48 Darkhorse wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2014 06:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past. It was never this bad. There was anger during the days of GOMTvT and BL/infestor, but there is a level of disgust now that is unparalleled in the history of the SC2 community. You are blinded by the fact that you are protoss. It was just as awful in BL/Infestor times.
Yeah actually, it was definitely just as bad in BL/Infestor. There haven't been nearly as many people called PatchTosses as PatchZergs.
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