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ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
March 15 2014 21:48 GMT
#6601
On March 16 2014 06:44 ESTeGo wrote:
Blizzard really needs to take care of the map pool better. The blink play renders it so useful thanks to these maps not because toss is op. There are other issues with the maps as well like the unbalanced gas mining


this is also true, but I still think making Time Warp an upgrade at Twilight Council would solve a lot of problems with Blink. It still makes Blink strong, but not undefendable, and if you want TW with your Blink attack you just need to get an extra TC and upgrade both at the same time, which will make you have less stalkers and slow down the timing, or just go without it which will make the attack less strong. And it still allows them to have it for the late game and keep PO for defense. Just a suggestion but I'm not a pro so Blizzard won't listen to me
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 15 2014 21:48 GMT
#6602
On March 16 2014 06:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past.

It was never this bad. There was anger during the days of GOMTvT and BL/infestor, but there is a level of disgust now that is unparalleled in the history of the SC2 community.

You are blinded by the fact that you are protoss. It was just as awful in BL/Infestor times.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
March 15 2014 21:48 GMT
#6603


No matter how bad my dislike of the state of Protoss gets, I just CANNOT dislike Liquid_Hero
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
i.of.the.storm
Profile Joined April 2009
United States795 Posts
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6604
On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past.


I think it's worse now because the Protoss strategies that people are complaining about are difficult to scout, there's several possibilities so you can't prepare for all of them, and sometimes even if you scout them they're impossible to hold on certain maps. Kind of like Parting's old soul train but now every Protoss can do it against any Terran. Brood Lord Infestor at least you could stop before it got to that point, and Terran dominance never felt like it was due to any specific build or strategy (except really early shit like BBS and 1-1-1s that got nerfed into the ground, and people were just worse in general back then anyway).
Maru - The Terran hope is alive!
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6605
On March 16 2014 06:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past.

It was never this bad. There was anger during the days of GOMTvT and BL/infestor, but there is a level of disgust now that is unparalleled in the history of the SC2 community.


The term "patch_insertRace" was basically forged during BL-INF.

Yeah it was not bad at all...
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6606
On March 16 2014 06:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past.

It was never this bad. There was anger during the days of GOMTvT and BL/infestor, but there is a level of disgust now that is unparalleled in the history of the SC2 community.

Nah you're imagining things ;D
I just think mods were more effective at shutting down LR insurrections back during BL-infestor times. But goddamn thank god that zerg dominance era is over...
SonGoku
Profile Joined September 2013
Germany152 Posts
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6607
protoss so cheap... just blink all in terrans and gogo 100k
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6608
On March 16 2014 06:41 Frex wrote:
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On March 16 2014 06:37 tshi wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:36 DavoS wrote:
Yeah bye IEM. I'm sorry guys nothing against you but there's no entertainment value in more PvP

Yeah, their giant prize pool bringing eyes to it is getting torpedoed by (THEPOWEROF) Protoss v Protoss : (


I just hope the viewer numbers drop for the finals so the organizers will figure that 100k winner takes it all does not improve the quality of the tournament.



except that if this was a fan favorite, or mixed finals, it would get great viewership... so it doesnt technically worsen it either.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6609
On March 16 2014 06:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 06:45 Frex wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:42 Sakkreth wrote:
So much whining, grow up. PvP is awesome.


This year we have had 7 protoss and 1 terran in Premier tournament finals.

It makes me mad.

Also, would you tell the people of Ukraine to grow up because they are whining at their goverment?

Oh my god he's actually comparing PvP finals to Ukrainian Crisis this is amazing.

What's so off about it? David Kim is literally ruining the lives of many players who are trying to make a living off of playing a competitive game? That's about the same, right?
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6610
On March 16 2014 06:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_HerO/status/444951502017560576

No matter how bad my dislike of the state of Protoss gets, I just CANNOT dislike Liquid_Hero

he's just mad because he got owned
www.twitch.tv/krazy Best Stream Quality NA @KClarkSC2
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6611
On March 16 2014 06:44 Zheryn wrote:
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On March 16 2014 06:40 Greenei wrote:
The worst part is that sOs didn't even play it perfectly. He fumbled 1-2 Stalkers unneccesarily...


Well, if Taeja had played perfectly he'd have held, but he made even more mistakes than sOs wasting 1-2 stalkers.


Not really. He got his Bunkers and Marauders up after he scanned the allin. There is really nothing else he can do. And don't say sensor towers or I will punch you through your monitor.
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6612
On March 16 2014 06:47 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 06:45 Frex wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:42 Sakkreth wrote:
So much whining, grow up. PvP is awesome.


This year we have had 7 protoss and 1 terran in Premier tournament finals.

It makes me mad.

Also, would you tell the people of Ukraine to grow up because they are whining at their goverment?

Oh my god he's actually comparing PvP finals to Ukrainian Crisis this is amazing.

I even put it on my signature
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6613
On March 16 2014 06:44 Darkhorse wrote:
Imagine if one of these players wins this and GSL. They will make like 150k+ in the span of a few weeks.


I think that winning both would nearly guarantee a spot a Blizzcon as well
soOjwa has returned to smite all that stand in his way
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6614
On March 16 2014 06:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past.

It was never this bad. There was anger during the days of GOMTvT and BL/infestor, but there is a level of disgust now that is unparalleled in the history of the SC2 community.


I disagree, bl/infestor was worse because blizzard did nothing to change it for 7-8+ months and even when they changed it, it was still ridiculously overpowered.

Let me know when there's a thread like this for hots protoss

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/385876-lings-of-liberty-the-rise-of-the-patchzergs
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6615
On March 16 2014 06:47 ssxsilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past.

Yes. Hardcore Protoss players may feel otherwise, but the hate vs Terran and Zerg was just as bad. Hell even a TL admin was bitching about Zerg on twitter at the time of BL/Infestor.

well, nowadays even casters hate protoss (more than one time said in this tournament and artosis famous quote "a bullet in starcrafts head would be better than 15 protoss in the gsl ro16"), so i think this is way worse than the hate against terran and zerg back in their respective days.
Xinzoe
Profile Joined January 2014
Korea (South)2373 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-15 21:50:21
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6616
On March 16 2014 06:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_HerO/status/444951502017560576

No matter how bad my dislike of the state of Protoss gets, I just CANNOT dislike Liquid_Hero


But didn't he cheese 3 games in a row vs Innovation at IEM Cologne lel
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6617
On March 16 2014 06:46 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 06:44 Incognoto wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:43 BlackCompany wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:41 aZealot wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:39 BlackCompany wrote:
People get really fucking mad over this
Holy hell


SC2 is serious business. :D


Probably :o
But i can relate, i got almost as mad as most people here are over a soccer match this afternoon


see this is why i'm snarky vs soccer. because people get mad. over a game. when they're not the atheletes.


But..but.. im a fan!
No, i understand. I am watching from home mostly, this way i can get mad and noone else has to care
I hate those people going into the stadium and when their team looses they go and try to start a fight with the fans from the other team


That's nothing. We got ST's and Primers fighting even if no one on their rosters are playing.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 15 2014 21:49 GMT
#6618
On March 16 2014 06:43 Ammanas wrote:
I wonder how they plan to nerf blink push without influencing a) other matchups b) strength of blink in mid and late game, where it is fine and in a lot of cases even necessary to survive.


Reworking the maps is probably the easiest solution. Everything else will have some effect on other match ups. If not maps, maybe a higher research time on blink? But that would affect PvP.

But at the end of the day, if Blizzard still thinks blink is too good, they won't care how it will affect other match ups. The immortal range buff changed PvZ and they still did it.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 15 2014 21:50 GMT
#6619
On March 16 2014 06:48 Vindicare605 wrote:
https://twitter.com/Liquid_HerO/status/444951502017560576

No matter how bad my dislike of the state of Protoss gets, I just CANNOT dislike Liquid_Hero

Haha this tweet. So sympathetic toward his TL bro :'(
i.of.the.storm
Profile Joined April 2009
United States795 Posts
March 15 2014 21:50 GMT
#6620
On March 16 2014 06:48 Darkhorse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2014 06:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On March 16 2014 06:45 KingofdaHipHop wrote:
Honest question, was the Starcraft 2 fanbase so hostile at the peaks of Terran and Zerg dominations? I wasn't watching back then, but people seem so angry and disgusted nowadays, just wondering if it was like this in the past.

It was never this bad. There was anger during the days of GOMTvT and BL/infestor, but there is a level of disgust now that is unparalleled in the history of the SC2 community.

You are blinded by the fact that you are protoss. It was just as awful in BL/Infestor times.


Yeah actually, it was definitely just as bad in BL/Infestor. There haven't been nearly as many people called PatchTosses as PatchZergs.
Maru - The Terran hope is alive!
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