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forsooth
United States3648 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:47 liberate71 wrote: BL/Inf was REALLY bad, you've got starry eyes for the now. Yeah no kidding, BL/infestor was literally nothing but pages of hate and balance whine warnings in every single LR thread, and people getting banned (including me a few times) left and right. It was a level of hate far above what Protoss is getting now. | ||
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:50 Darkhorse wrote: Well that statement didn't make any sense. anti-Liquid some more. buddy, this isn't even my final form | ||
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Morbidius
Brazil3449 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:50 Levistus wrote: is getting a siege tank or even two that bad in that situation? he had a factory anyway. just for zoning the stalkers and getting free hits if they get close to the ramp, or behind his main troops, even protecting those bunkers. i don't know if you still need to research siege tech though different sites say different things. Meh, Jjakji tried it, they will just find a position your tank can't defend or blink on top of it. | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:51 KrazyTrumpet wrote: Nah, they just resort to personal attacks and calling people "disgusting" They call the builds disgusting and the games disgusting. But as far as the abuse the players receive its about equal | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:51 imrusty269 wrote: Maru was not even blunk "all in". I am not sure Maru will survive a protoss in Ro3 Maru is the last Terran alive on the planet. | ||
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:46 tshi wrote: Now that's not fair -- one is a systemic problem that the population as a whole has hated for years now and are voicing their opinions to change the system, the other is the Ukraine gov't. imo Well done. I fell out of my chair. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:47 KrazyTrumpet wrote: It was never this bad. There was anger during the days of GOMTvT and BL/infestor, but there is a level of disgust now that is unparalleled in the history of the SC2 community. Yes, it was definitely this bad with Zerg. Not so much Terran, because Terran's dominance was due to the really high skill ceiling (so we saw some awesome plays, and TvT is undoubtedly the best mirror), but people were fucking PISSED in the days of Z dominance. | ||
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75
Germany4057 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:50 Levistus wrote: is getting a siege tank or even two that bad in that situation? he had a factory anyway. just for zoning the stalkers and getting free hits if they get close to the ramp, or behind his main troops, even protecting those bunkers. i don't know if you still need to research siege tech though different sites say different things. no, no siege tank research (till hots?) in my opinion you can zone stalkers better with widowmines and they are more cost effective if you hit stalkers with them, but im really bad at sc2! | ||
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aZealot
New Zealand5447 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:50 baba1 wrote: It doesn't matter how good SoS is or how good he can blink his stalkers. It doesn't make exciting games. Blink stalkers almost every PvT is insulting especially in a100k tournaments. 2 boring protoss will battle it out with boring unit compositions in the finals. Yay. I don't care who has the most colossi left at the end of an engagement so I won't watch. sOs and herO boring? Good god. If that is your opinion, maybe you should watch more of these players (and more PvP). Man... | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:50 stuchiu wrote: We even had an entire article about the Lings of Liberty. Which I never understood btw. It was written by some kind of TL writer and when people were like "but isn't that balance whine?", all the insiders and TL VIPs were all "dudes you don't get the humor!". But it did really seem like balance whine ;D | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:51 KrazyTrumpet wrote: Nah, they just resort to personal attacks and calling people "disgusting" You seem to be the only person who thinks its worse now. Heat of the moment etc etc | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:49 tshi wrote: What's so off about it? David Kim is literally ruining the lives of many players who are trying to make a living off of playing a competitive game? That's about the same, right? ... | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
He lost 3-1 to Dear ooooh such an insult lel so bad HerO | ||
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:48 Darkhorse wrote: I don't think it was as bad against terran, but it lasted longer. It was just kinda "marines imba". I think it was just as bad for zerg. BL/Infestor definitely got the most hate. Terran hate seemed to come and go. Most of it came during the open seasons of WOL with SCV pulls. I think for the most part, the hate didn't boil over because most of the OP stuff got nerfed relatively quickly (rightly so). I mean, can you imagine the backlash if 5 rax reapers won 4 straight premiere tournaments? | ||
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Ryndika
1489 Posts
Anyway, biggest thing is that broodlord infestor power was superlategame and you could scout, react and do anything you want before that. Against blink you don't know what is happening outside of your base and if you guess wrong you most likely die. Still, even if it's strong guys. It's not necessasrily broken. Polt and many do incredibly well. We didn't have many terrans in this tournament but many got thru to semifinals. (Like all?) Couple map fixes and a change might not even be needed if we figure something little out about scouting the transition. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:52 ZenithM wrote: Which I never understood btw. It was written by some kind of TL writer and when people were like "but isn't that balance whine?", all the insiders and TL VIPs were all "dudes you don't get the humor!". But it did really seem like balance whine ;D But it had pretty pictures and stuff too. | ||
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i.of.the.storm
United States795 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:50 baba1 wrote: It doesn't matter how good SoS is or how good he can blink his stalkers. It doesn't make exciting games. Blink stalkers almost every PvT is insulting especially in a100k tournaments. 2 boring protoss will battle it out with boring unit compositions in the finals. Yay. I don't care who has the most colossi left at the end of an engagement so I won't watch. Meh, even as a Terran PvP is actually really good to watch these days. That's the main reason I don't think MSC should be nerfed, because it stabilizes PvP so much. I like the one guy's idea about moving Time Warp to Twilight Council research, it'd weaken blink all ins considerably without making MSC useless. Maybe even make it like warp gates where it's really cheap but just takes a while to research so that it's just delayed and not prohibitive to get. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:52 forsooth wrote: Yeah no kidding, BL/infestor was literally nothing but pages of hate and balance whine warnings in every single LR thread, and people getting banned (including me a few times) left and right. It was a level of hate far above what Protoss is getting now. And for good reason. At least David Kim is reacting to the current metagame. Maybe it's not enough, maybe it is but players haven't adapted yet, but at least Blizzard did something. | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:51 KrazyTrumpet wrote: Nah, they just resort to personal attacks and calling people "disgusting" It was the same with Zergs back then... Hell, Terrans that pull SCVs get the same hate now... Protoss aren't special... | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On March 16 2014 06:54 i.of.the.storm wrote: Meh, even as a Terran PvP is actually really good to watch these days. That's the main reason I don't think MSC should be nerfed, because it stabilizes PvP so much. I like the one guy's idea about moving Time Warp to Twilight Council research, it'd weaken blink all ins considerably without making MSC useless. Maybe even make it like warp gates where it's really cheap but just takes a while to research so that it's just delayed and not prohibitive to get. Wow thats actually a pretty good idea. | ||
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