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[SPL] KT vs CJ Entus - Round 1 2014 - Page 40

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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 13:23:08
December 30 2013 13:22 GMT
#781
Sack that base Stats...

Damn hydra is good. He's playing JulyStyle
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
December 30 2013 13:22 GMT
#782
Hydra the protoss killer
mokumoku
Profile Joined January 2012
157 Posts
December 30 2013 13:23 GMT
#783
On December 30 2013 22:15 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
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On December 30 2013 22:13 foxmeep wrote:
More people need to review Maru's TvP. He knows how to play that shit > don't let toss sit there and build unkillable army.

And that is whats wrong imo. T shouldnt be on the clock like that. (just like the old WoL PvZ, just 'gay').


having the unkillable army is the problem. Terran shouldn't be forced to play a certain way.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
December 30 2013 13:23 GMT
#784
Looks like another good day to be a KT fan >.<
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
December 30 2013 13:23 GMT
#785
God I hope KT gets 3-0'd.
Long live the King of Wings
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3422 Posts
December 30 2013 13:23 GMT
#786
On December 30 2013 22:21 FFW_Rude wrote:
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On December 30 2013 22:20 WGT-Baal wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:13 FFW_Rude wrote:
Well i'm fighting my anger by reporting like a crazymadman. Feels a little better. Go to ace match and rematch that protoss Flash ! I believe !


So, it looks better for CJ now doesn't it?

It was a nice game! That s what matters in the end, people whining about Storms in SC2 are young, they have to be, they should try the BW storms!

Anyways, hoping for the same quality in the following games! May the best win


Grudgematch will happen my friend !


It s not over yet though! Some good players left on both sides, and a possible ace
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TurboMaN
Profile Joined October 2005
Germany925 Posts
December 30 2013 13:23 GMT
#787
On December 30 2013 22:19 liberate71 wrote:
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On December 30 2013 22:18 myminerals wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:11 ZenithM wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:09 myminerals wrote:
Flash played better, but yet again, storms win it all

I don't think Flash played better. When Terran isn't clearly playing better, Terran doesn't deserve to win, that's the burden we manly men bear.

Well, can't say I was impressed when Sora was standing for a minute in the middle of the map watching his base being dropped. Really questionable decisions by him and he was outplayed by Flash, who, in turn, played being scouted and made this game look much closer than it should be. So, one positional mistake cost Flash a game. I don't think that Sora receives my respect here.


flash's macro wasn't flash level though.


Have you seen how fast he was remaxed from 163 supply when he lost 3 full medivacs?

It's a matter of what is easier to execute at the highest skill level:
A) Use feedback on Medivacs, land the so called "perfect" storm by surrouding with 2 templars
B) Dodge everything with perfect splits and stutter step micro

I'm at a point where I really can't see if a Protoss is a better player or if he just won by a game design advantage.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
December 30 2013 13:23 GMT
#788
On December 30 2013 22:20 The_Templar wrote:
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On December 30 2013 22:16 The_Templar wrote:
Proleague: KT Rolster vs CJ Entus

(P)Stats vs (Z)Hydra
0-1


Map: Outboxer


Stats spawns in the top left
Hydra spawns in the bottom right

2:00
Hydra going spawning pool first
Stats going nexus first followed by a forge.
Stats pylon blocks the natural so Hydra takes the vulnerable third base.

3:00
Gateway for Stats.
Stats cancelled the pylon block.
Stats getting a photon cannon.
Stats getting two assimilators.

4:00
Hydra getting a third base at his natural expansion.
Stats getting a cybernetics core.
Hydra droning.

5:00
Hydra scouting diligently with zerglings.
Mothership core and a stalker for Stats.
14 zerglings on the way for Hydra.
Warp gate research and a sentry for Stats.

6:00 (P)Stats 48 vs (Z)Hydra 52
Third base and two more assimilators for Stats.
Hydra starts zergling speed.
Hydra sending zerglings towards the third of Stats.
Stats FF's his cannon to prevent it dying to zerglings.

7:00
8:00 (P)Stats 61 vs (Z)Hydra 80
Stats getting 5 more gateways.
Hydra building a lot of roach/ling.
Twilight council for Stats.
Hydra getting a lair.
Hydra attacks the third base!
Force fields to prevent the zerglings from Hydra killing his sentries.

9:00 (P)Stats 62 vs (Z)Hydra 87
Hydra kills all of Stat's units.
Hydra reinforces and kills the third base.
Hydra even going after the pylons powering the gateways at the third.
Roach speed for hydra.
Hydra getting a macro hatchery.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
December 30 2013 13:23 GMT
#789
Well played by Hydra
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
December 30 2013 13:23 GMT
#790
On December 30 2013 22:20 WGT-Baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:13 FFW_Rude wrote:
Well i'm fighting my anger by reporting like a crazymadman. Feels a little better. Go to ace match and rematch that protoss Flash ! I believe !


So, it looks better for CJ now doesn't it?

It was a nice game! That s what matters in the end, people whining about Storms in SC2 are young, they have to be, they should try the BW storms!

Anyways, hoping for the same quality in the following games! May the best win

How much did storms do in BW? 125? 210?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 30 2013 13:23 GMT
#791
HYDRAAA MONOCLE ZERG FIGHTING
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
myminerals
Profile Joined August 2013
560 Posts
December 30 2013 13:24 GMT
#792
On December 30 2013 22:22 ACrow wrote:
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On December 30 2013 22:18 myminerals wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:11 ZenithM wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:09 myminerals wrote:
Flash played better, but yet again, storms win it all

I don't think Flash played better. When Terran isn't clearly playing better, Terran doesn't deserve to win, that's the burden we manly men bear.

Well, can't say I was impressed when Sora was standing for a minute in the middle of the map watching his base being dropped. Really questionable decisions by him and good by Flash, who, in turn, played being scouted and made this game look much closer than it should be. So, one positional mistake cost Flash a game. I don't think that Sora receives my respect here.

His warp gates were on cool down, I actually respect him for not panicking by attacking into Flash's position, all he lost there were a few gateways, he didn't lose any tech whatsoever. Later on he caught three medivacs full of army without losing anything, which allowed him to move more aggressively on the map, ultimatley maneuvering Flash into the Templar trap that won the final engagement.
Saying it was one positional mistake that lost Flash the game, is just your bias speaking to be honest.

Yes, I completely forgot about those lost medivacs...
Anyway, I liked Flash's play today. Sora was solid.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
December 30 2013 13:24 GMT
#793
On December 30 2013 22:21 FFW_Rude wrote:
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On December 30 2013 22:19 goody153 wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:18 FFW_Rude wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:16 ne4aJIb wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:15 FFW_Rude wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:13 Talin wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:11 FFW_Rude wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:10 LimitSEA wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:08 AyaaLa wrote:
nice unit blizzard? fantastic game blizzard. Protoss need one fucking unit to beat everything terran has. HIGH TEMPLAR BABY

Well I mean, it's not like his positioning in that engagement was superior or anything. Just that one unit. Hue.

/s


Nice unit ? Templar is a bw unit...


And Storm used to be a lot more deadly as well in BW. I remember in 2010 everybody cried about how desperately weak the Storms were, and this was with Khaydarin fucking Amulet in the game.


Yeah... Storm was SO powerfull in BW. But it was harder to land good ones


smart cast imba :d


Imagine smart cast with BW storm. THAT would be OP.

smart cast the root of all evil .


It suits SC2 better. I don't feel smartcast is bad. If you don't have smart cast in SC2 with the unit selection mechanic it would be kind of weird.

Smart cast would be bad with a bw unit selection.

I love both game.

Storms shouldnt be that strong if smartcasting was the case. Or just make a terran version of storm. Zerg has one.
this is a quote
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
December 30 2013 13:24 GMT
#794
On December 30 2013 22:16 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:13 Fusilero wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:13 FFW_Rude wrote:
Well i'm fighting my anger by reporting like a crazymadman. Feels a little better. Go to ace match and rematch that protoss Flash ! I believe !

The ace will probably be hero if it gets there


Come on man that's not nice But i really feel Flash played great. It was almost... almost. Sora had an edge.


Am i the only one here that doesn´t feel like Flash played great? I mean he lost about 3 ghosts that did nothing to feedback. His control and overall gameplay just does not make up for all the hype that sourrounds him. There are tons of terran players like Bbyong that would´ve dealt better with that situation imo.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51507 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 13:25:44
December 30 2013 13:24 GMT
#795
On December 30 2013 22:23 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:20 WGT-Baal wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:13 FFW_Rude wrote:
Well i'm fighting my anger by reporting like a crazymadman. Feels a little better. Go to ace match and rematch that protoss Flash ! I believe !


So, it looks better for CJ now doesn't it?

It was a nice game! That s what matters in the end, people whining about Storms in SC2 are young, they have to be, they should try the BW storms!

Anyways, hoping for the same quality in the following games! May the best win

How much did storms do in BW? 125? 210?


112 over 8 seconds (8 * 14)

they had to nerf it from 128 because they didn't want storm to one-shot lurkers
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Rainmansc
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands216 Posts
December 30 2013 13:24 GMT
#796
Protoss will still win ^+^
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 30 2013 13:24 GMT
#797
sick sick hold from stats
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
December 30 2013 13:24 GMT
#798
On December 30 2013 22:23 WGT-Baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:21 FFW_Rude wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:20 WGT-Baal wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:13 FFW_Rude wrote:
Well i'm fighting my anger by reporting like a crazymadman. Feels a little better. Go to ace match and rematch that protoss Flash ! I believe !


So, it looks better for CJ now doesn't it?

It was a nice game! That s what matters in the end, people whining about Storms in SC2 are young, they have to be, they should try the BW storms!

Anyways, hoping for the same quality in the following games! May the best win


Grudgematch will happen my friend !


It s not over yet though! Some good players left on both sides, and a possible ace


Hydra is going sauronZerg and Stats is so nervous.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
December 30 2013 13:24 GMT
#799
Immortals and Stats is going to hold this, +2 weapons reason he still alive though.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-30 13:26:13
December 30 2013 13:24 GMT
#800
On December 30 2013 22:23 mokumoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 22:15 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On December 30 2013 22:13 foxmeep wrote:
More people need to review Maru's TvP. He knows how to play that shit > don't let toss sit there and build unkillable army.

And that is whats wrong imo. T shouldnt be on the clock like that. (just like the old WoL PvZ, just 'gay').


having the unkillable army is the problem. Terran shouldn't be forced to play a certain way.

I mean, the unkillable army is fine. The problem (if there is a problem, amirite? :D) right now is that not much stops Protoss from working towards it (aside from that one 9:30-10:00 window, which Flash missed because of his build failing).
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