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unigolyn
Estonia1272 Posts
On October 21 2013 07:04 HolydaKing wrote: No... there's a Starcraft term for that. Fantasy GG timing! I was talking to the guy who thought Heart did an early GG in game one, I doubt he knows that term. | ||
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
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dinosrwar
1290 Posts
On October 21 2013 07:05 unigolyn wrote: I was talking to the guy who thought Heart did an early GG in game one, I doubt he knows that term. That guy hasn't a clue about anything. | ||
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unigolyn
Estonia1272 Posts
On October 21 2013 07:05 Applesmack wrote: Nah I thought this was the perfect time to GG. You should GG when your natural is broken (unless a base trade is going on). Every player should do this. He was 110 food down. That was a stupid waste of time. There was absolutely no way for him to win. EDIT: the one time to do that is in a deciding game. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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Caladan
Germany1238 Posts
Its after midnight at EU and semis have not even started... | ||
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Waise
3165 Posts
On October 21 2013 07:05 Applesmack wrote: Nah I thought this was the perfect time to GG. You should GG when your natural/main is broken (unless a base trade is going on) and your army is dead. Every player should do this. if every player used that GG timing i would probably stop following starcraft, because over time it would add hours and hours of pointless downtime in games where i and everyone else already know the result if the game isn't exciting it's because sometimes starcraft just isn't exciting to watch, you can't blame professionals with advanced knowledge of the game for not making it exciting with impossible nonexistent miracle micro | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On October 21 2013 06:57 Applesmack wrote: I get the point, but most of the comebacks in SC2 are from minor setbacks or positional disadvantages. Is it really proven IMPOSSIBLE for Heart to comeback form the situation he was in? I always feel that Terran is the race that has by far the most comeback potential and shouldn't early GG. Well the biggest reason why Moba people don't gg early is because they are a team of 5. People that like to fight to the bitter end are usuable people that really get upset about early ggs. So only need one of those on the team. Also Dota style Mobas have build in comeback chance preferable at the end. And losing will only buff your opponent not put you back into stone age. Would be like you get resources back if your units die in Sc2. Anyway it is okay in strategy games to drop out early. You can't forget if your opponent gets a huge advantage they can enter eco mode. Means while you concentrate yourself like crazy they will only try to expand and pressure you. In the end you will get more exhausted and they get rested. In Mobas this is not the as much the case. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On October 21 2013 07:08 Caladan wrote: How are 3 bo5s to work in ONE hour @ schedule? -_- Scheduler thought this was WoL so he expected Heart to 1-1-1 every game. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
On October 21 2013 07:08 Waise wrote: if every player used that GG timing i would probably stop following starcraft, because over time it would add hours and hours of pointless downtime in games where i and everyone else already know the result if the game isn't exciting it's because sometimes starcraft just isn't exciting to watch, you can't blame professionals with advanced knowledge of the game for not making it exciting with impossible nonexistent miracle micro well yes me too, but not at this kind of tournament. i respect that hero left that late, it's an important match and who knows... although hero did certainly look like he didn't believe in it anymore, so... | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On October 21 2013 07:09 stuchiu wrote: Scheduler thought this was WoL so he expected Heart to 1-1-1 every game. There shouldn't be a consolation final though right? cause we only need to the top 6 the scheduling was still pretty stupid | ||
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Fjodorov
5007 Posts
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Waise
3165 Posts
On October 21 2013 07:10 HolydaKing wrote: well yes me too, but not at this kind of tournament. i respect that hero left that late, it's an important match and who knows... although hero did certainly look like he didn't believe in it anymore, so... i'm referring to what applesmack said, not hero's gg timing. i mean if "everyone always GGed when their army is dead and their natural is broken" there's nothing wrong with playing out the last engagement if you aren't sure how far you're behind, but the whole "NEVER GIVE UP NEVER SURRENDER" thing is just what fans want to see to make the game exciting. unfortunately it goes against reality | ||
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Waise
3165 Posts
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unigolyn
Estonia1272 Posts
On October 21 2013 07:11 Fjodorov wrote: I trust the players to know when its time to gg (apart from idra ofc) Name one pro game where someone has come back from a 110+ food disadvantage. I'm not even saying Hero should absolutely have GGd, I'm just saying that the game was pretty much over at that point. There are some good reasons for staying in a lost game, like thinking about a strategy for the following one. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On October 21 2013 07:13 Waise wrote: sometimes listening to gretorp is like reading random theorycrafting in balance threads Building ARMOR IS GOOD! Why won't you believe me T.T - Gretorp | ||
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Dingodile
4139 Posts
On October 21 2013 07:13 unigolyn wrote: Name one pro game where someone has come back from a 110+ food disadvantage. Well, supply numbers doesnt mean everything. What about 55 roaches in production? I have seen 102 lings in production (July vs Mana at DH 2011) | ||
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unigolyn
Estonia1272 Posts
On October 21 2013 07:17 Dingodile wrote: Well, supply numbers doesnt mean everythink. What about 55 roaches in production? Units in production count as part of supply. | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
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Aratho
Poland16 Posts
NASL, what were you thinking!? | ||
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