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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 20 2013 21:56 GMT
#381
On October 21 2013 06:53 Applesmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 06:51 Waise wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:49 Applesmack wrote:
Why do Starcraft players GG so fast? When I watch MOBA games, they fight to the very end every time. Some of these GG timings almost feel like ladder ragequits.

to not waste time making people watch games that are over already and to respect their opponents' ability to close out won games

heart was barely even mining and he was down like 50 supply


This is why great comebacks never happen in SC. Nobody ever tries to do the impossible.


Comebacks always happen in SC. Every Polt game this season was a comeback. Mvp vs Squirtle g7 was a comeback. g4 Leenock vs Life. Mvp vs Innovation g2. Hack vs Roro. MC vs Inca. Parting vs Soulkey. Parting vs Roro. Thorzain vs Naniwa g7. Thorzain vs MC g4. Nestea vs SC. Nestea vs Top g1 and g2. I could go on, but I hope you get the point.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 20 2013 21:56 GMT
#382
I would really like the production tab open .
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
October 20 2013 21:56 GMT
#383
On October 21 2013 06:55 Wiggins8 wrote:
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On October 21 2013 06:54 Fionn wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:53 Wiggins8 wrote:
Are the Dogers a Handegg Team?


No, baseball team. They have Korea's best pitcher, Ryu Hyun-jin, as one of their starters. Lots of Koreans are Dodger fans now.


I thought Handegg and Baseball are US-only things. o_0


Baseball is pretty huge in Japan and Korea.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 20 2013 21:56 GMT
#384
On October 21 2013 06:53 Applesmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 06:51 Waise wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:49 Applesmack wrote:
Why do Starcraft players GG so fast? When I watch MOBA games, they fight to the very end every time. Some of these GG timings almost feel like ladder ragequits.

to not waste time making people watch games that are over already and to respect their opponents' ability to close out won games

heart was barely even mining and he was down like 50 supply


This is why great comebacks never happen in SC. Nobody ever tries to do the impossible.

nah. these pros have been playing for a long time and they know when the game is over. playing out a game you've lost is borderline BM and just drags out your frustration.

at this level of play, no one will let you back into a game like that. the game design of sc2 with how economy works doesn't allow for miracles (except with mules, really). plus, you could easily argue the drop that got feedbacked half a second before the GG WAS his attempt to do the impossible and work from behind, so he was doing exactl what you're saying and giving it his best shot. the game died with those medivacs
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
October 20 2013 21:57 GMT
#385
On October 21 2013 06:55 Tamagoshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 06:53 Applesmack wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:51 Waise wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:49 Applesmack wrote:
Why do Starcraft players GG so fast? When I watch MOBA games, they fight to the very end every time. Some of these GG timings almost feel like ladder ragequits.

to not waste time making people watch games that are over already and to respect their opponents' ability to close out won games

heart was barely even mining and he was down like 50 supply


This is why great comebacks never happen in SC. Nobody ever tries to do the impossible.

Are you sure?

Tell me. The only one game was ryung vs stephano at cloud kingdom.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
October 20 2013 21:57 GMT
#386
"Cover the hypotenuse."
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 20 2013 21:57 GMT
#387
On October 21 2013 06:56 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 06:55 Wiggins8 wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:54 Fionn wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:53 Wiggins8 wrote:
Are the Dogers a Handegg Team?


No, baseball team. They have Korea's best pitcher, Ryu Hyun-jin, as one of their starters. Lots of Koreans are Dodger fans now.


I thought Handegg and Baseball are US-only things. o_0


Baseball is pretty huge in Japan and Korea.

also huge in the caribbean/parts of south america
Tamagoshi
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil981 Posts
October 20 2013 21:57 GMT
#388
On October 21 2013 06:56 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 06:53 Applesmack wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:51 Waise wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:49 Applesmack wrote:
Why do Starcraft players GG so fast? When I watch MOBA games, they fight to the very end every time. Some of these GG timings almost feel like ladder ragequits.

to not waste time making people watch games that are over already and to respect their opponents' ability to close out won games

heart was barely even mining and he was down like 50 supply


This is why great comebacks never happen in SC. Nobody ever tries to do the impossible.


Comebacks always happen in SC. Every Polt game this season was a comeback. Mvp vs Squirtle g7 was a comeback. g4 Leenock vs Life. Mvp vs Innovation g2. Hack vs Roro. MC vs Inca. Parting vs Soulkey. Parting vs Roro. Thorzain vs Naniwa g7. Thorzain vs MC g4. Nestea vs SC. Nestea vs Top g1 and g2. I could go on, but I hope you get the point.

Mvp vs DIMAGA WCS EU, Fantasy vs HerO in Proleague, every JvP before WCS season finals 2
Applesmack
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada680 Posts
October 20 2013 21:57 GMT
#389
On October 21 2013 06:56 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 06:53 Applesmack wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:51 Waise wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:49 Applesmack wrote:
Why do Starcraft players GG so fast? When I watch MOBA games, they fight to the very end every time. Some of these GG timings almost feel like ladder ragequits.

to not waste time making people watch games that are over already and to respect their opponents' ability to close out won games

heart was barely even mining and he was down like 50 supply


This is why great comebacks never happen in SC. Nobody ever tries to do the impossible.


Comebacks always happen in SC. Every Polt game this season was a comeback. Mvp vs Squirtle g7 was a comeback. g4 Leenock vs Life. Mvp vs Innovation g2. Hack vs Roro. MC vs Inca. Parting vs Soulkey. Parting vs Roro. Thorzain vs Naniwa g7. Thorzain vs MC g4. Nestea vs SC. Nestea vs Top g1 and g2. I could go on, but I hope you get the point.


I get the point, but most of the comebacks in SC2 are from minor setbacks or positional disadvantages. Is it really proven IMPOSSIBLE for Heart to comeback form the situation he was in? I always feel that Terran is the race that has by far the most comeback potential and shouldn't early GG.
norterrible
Profile Joined October 2009
United States618 Posts
October 20 2013 21:58 GMT
#390
"heart hasnt skipped a beat"
kekeke
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-20 22:00:08
October 20 2013 21:59 GMT
#391
On October 21 2013 06:57 Applesmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 06:56 stuchiu wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:53 Applesmack wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:51 Waise wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:49 Applesmack wrote:
Why do Starcraft players GG so fast? When I watch MOBA games, they fight to the very end every time. Some of these GG timings almost feel like ladder ragequits.

to not waste time making people watch games that are over already and to respect their opponents' ability to close out won games

heart was barely even mining and he was down like 50 supply


This is why great comebacks never happen in SC. Nobody ever tries to do the impossible.


Comebacks always happen in SC. Every Polt game this season was a comeback. Mvp vs Squirtle g7 was a comeback. g4 Leenock vs Life. Mvp vs Innovation g2. Hack vs Roro. MC vs Inca. Parting vs Soulkey. Parting vs Roro. Thorzain vs Naniwa g7. Thorzain vs MC g4. Nestea vs SC. Nestea vs Top g1 and g2. I could go on, but I hope you get the point.


I get the point, but most of the comebacks in SC2 are from minor setbacks or positional disadvantages. Is it really proven IMPOSSIBLE for Heart to comeback form the situation he was in? I always feel that Terran is the race that has by far the most comeback potential and shouldn't early GG.


He had no economy to come back with, and hadn't done any damage to his opponent.

It's possible to come back from losing half of your workers if you've also done some damage to your opponent, or vice versa.

TL;DR - it wasn't an "early GG".
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 20 2013 22:00 GMT
#392
gretorp really really wants the audience to understand photon cannons and when to use them
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 20 2013 22:02 GMT
#393
Damn, Heart is playing well!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 20 2013 22:02 GMT
#394
On October 21 2013 06:57 Applesmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2013 06:56 stuchiu wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:53 Applesmack wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:51 Waise wrote:
On October 21 2013 06:49 Applesmack wrote:
Why do Starcraft players GG so fast? When I watch MOBA games, they fight to the very end every time. Some of these GG timings almost feel like ladder ragequits.

to not waste time making people watch games that are over already and to respect their opponents' ability to close out won games

heart was barely even mining and he was down like 50 supply


This is why great comebacks never happen in SC. Nobody ever tries to do the impossible.


Comebacks always happen in SC. Every Polt game this season was a comeback. Mvp vs Squirtle g7 was a comeback. g4 Leenock vs Life. Mvp vs Innovation g2. Hack vs Roro. MC vs Inca. Parting vs Soulkey. Parting vs Roro. Thorzain vs Naniwa g7. Thorzain vs MC g4. Nestea vs SC. Nestea vs Top g1 and g2. I could go on, but I hope you get the point.


I get the point, but most of the comebacks in SC2 are from minor setbacks or positional disadvantages. Is it really proven IMPOSSIBLE for Heart to comeback form the situation he was in? I always feel that Terran is the race that has by far the most comeback potential and shouldn't early GG.


My opinion is different, I think Terran has the worst comeback potential of the three races (But it comes down to preference. I think mutas/ HTS/DTS/Blink stalkers /Lings/infestors are superior to terran units in a comeback situation.). And here I go explaining each of the massive comebacks of each of these games.

Mvp vs Squirtle down 12 to 26 supply.
Leenovk vs Life Down 1 base and 10 infestors and 30 supply.
Mvp vs Innovation. Down 60 supply and 30 scvs.
Hack vs Roro. Infestor BL against 3 base Terran on 50 supply.
MC vs Inca 3 gate vs 4 gate on TDA.
Parting vs Soulkey - Down 50 supply.
Parting vs vs Soulkey- Down 60 supply.
Thorzain VS Naniwa - Lost mining on natural and bad positions TDA.
Thorzain vs MC - far behind in every aspect, but equalizes game with superior tactics and ghost cloak.
Nestea vs SC - Do I have to explain this one?
Nestea vs top - down 80 supply.
Nestea vs top - down 100 supply.
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Waise
Profile Joined June 2013
3165 Posts
October 20 2013 22:02 GMT
#395
aww protoss baiting mines, that's cute
DigitalisDestructi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States488 Posts
October 20 2013 22:02 GMT
#396
On October 21 2013 06:49 Applesmack wrote:
Why do Starcraft players GG so fast? When I watch MOBA games, they fight to the very end every time. Some of these GG timings almost feel like ladder ragequits.

If you think that was early gg, I wonder how you would describe when Idra gg, haha.
Deus Ex is awesome -- soundcloud.com/user9260191 -- soundclick.com/ekarinsm -- purevolume.com/ekarinsm
unigolyn
Profile Joined August 2013
Estonia1272 Posts
October 20 2013 22:04 GMT
#397
Now this is a ridiculously late GG.
Show me what passes for fury amongst your misbegotten kind.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 20 2013 22:04 GMT
#398
On October 21 2013 07:04 unigolyn wrote:
Now this is a ridiculously late GG.

No... there's a Starcraft term for that.

Fantasy GG timing!
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 20 2013 22:05 GMT
#399
Hero you aren't Parting and that isn't Flash.
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Applesmack
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada680 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-20 22:06:45
October 20 2013 22:05 GMT
#400
On October 21 2013 07:04 unigolyn wrote:
Now this is a ridiculously late GG.


Nah I thought this was the perfect time to GG. You should GG when your natural/main is broken (unless a base trade is going on) and your army is dead. Every player should do this.
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