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[WCS EU] Finals Day 2 Premier Season 2 2013 - Page 103

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Ok, the finals are on now. Stop derailing with complaints about WCS region system! - Begin page 109
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 15:57:55
August 11 2013 15:57 GMT
#2041
On August 12 2013 00:55 ahmedaak88 wrote:
did the really not expect duckdeok to go this far that they have no info on him, i want to learn about this unknown player that basically destroyed all of EU best . come on people we don't need to hear about whitra and how his days going, highlight the bloody players

well here's one piece of information
loverip=finale
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=163268
also he was a solid code a player and his previous id was finale
Moderatorlickypiddy
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
August 11 2013 15:57 GMT
#2042
man MC has put on alot of weight since I last saw him
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
August 11 2013 15:57 GMT
#2043
On August 12 2013 00:54 Lorning wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:54 Sokrates wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:53 Cattlecruiser wrote:
The haters in the thread are making me laugh so hard.
HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
Koreans are laughing their ass off at you.


I wouldnt hate on MMA or MC, i just heavily dislike duckducks nick and playstyle.

Cause he plays to win?


No because they are legitimate good players unlike "duckduck".

User was temp banned for this post.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 15:58:07
August 11 2013 15:57 GMT
#2044
On August 12 2013 00:56 marcesr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:55 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:54 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:52 grs wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:47 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:44 grs wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:43 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:39 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:37 marcesr wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:34 Lysanias wrote:
[quote]

I would fully agree with your post, but i think it's more frustration then hate.


Really? "People that hate now should leave the scene". Well then you will go back to BW times in 2 seconds.
A super nice and fun community but 2k viewers at max.

Not sure if thats what you want.


Oh so viewers is all that matters? I guess we better welcome a bunch of raging pre-teens and put up with all their whine and bullshit so we can have 200k viewers like LoL or whatever...

-_-


I dont know what your role in esport is but I assume that pretty much any professional would agree that viewer numbers are far more important than how "friendly" the community is.

My role in epsorts is a viewer and I prefer less viewers and less idiots.


Did you follow the BW scene? Because then you should know why more viewers is good for everyone.

Please explain to me.


If we didnt have the highly entertaining Korean scene which was supported by a large mainstream audience in Korea we would have had 1 meaningful online tournament a year.


The large mainstream audience in Korea was mostly normal people, just like the normal people that enjoy mainstream sports.

It was not full of whiny little children that rage all over the internet constantly and shit on everything.



"Normal" people came in after whiny little nerds made it a big thing.


... if you think the BW community was as BM, ignorant and annoying as the LoL/CoD communities of today are then I have no words for you... no words...
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
August 11 2013 15:57 GMT
#2045
On August 12 2013 00:56 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:56 Zambrah wrote:
Mother of god, I wake up late, sit down to breakfast over a nice game of StarCraft and this is thread is shitting itself.

Shut up and enjoy some games of StarCraft guys. :D


rofl. way too much to ask..


I know, I just thought I'd take a shot and ask anyways. Y_Y
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
August 11 2013 15:57 GMT
#2046
On August 12 2013 00:57 Darpa wrote:
man MC has put on alot of weight since I last saw him


dat esports $$$$
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
August 11 2013 15:58 GMT
#2047
On August 12 2013 00:55 MrSourGit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:51 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:49 MrSourGit wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:27 Kergy wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:24 MrSourGit wrote:
I am not going to watch 2 Koreans fight for my regions championship .... boring.

What a load of shit.

Should have to stick to your region ...... so so stupid. The largest spectator crowds are NA and EU right ? We wanna see our players ..... uhhhhh.

Ladder time.


well, tell them to l2p

finale has a new fan :D


Koreans are better , we all fkin know that , but for once i wanna see a competition won by OUR fking players .... on OUR fucking region ....

Oh fuck it , Next European football in 2016 , Why dont we just invite Brazil and Argentina ? Who gives a shit they aint from Europe !!!


You think it's fair that Korea has maybe 80-90% of the best players in the world, but they only have ONE WCS tournament with the same prize pool as the other regions? How about that?



Boo hoo ?

Are they from Europe ? Do they live in Europe ?

Are they from America ? Do they live in America ?

Is it that hard to comprehend ?

blizzard did not set borders in which region to participate intentionally so we can have the season finals with the best quality games possible, is it that hard to understand? btw i thought we live in a globalized world but maybe i was just wrong.
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
scsnow
Profile Joined April 2010
Slovenia515 Posts
August 11 2013 15:58 GMT
#2048
bosstoss aka protoss president has good PvP imho
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
August 11 2013 15:58 GMT
#2049
On August 12 2013 00:57 Darpa wrote:
man MC has put on alot of weight since I last saw him

I saw him play yesterday and I agree with this statement -.-. Anyhow I'm passing out have fun everyone!
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 11 2013 15:58 GMT
#2050
On August 12 2013 00:54 Waxangel wrote:
Duckdeok is outdoing Sniper, holy fuck


Probably because he changed his name so people think he's new.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Noc-
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland850 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 15:59:18
August 11 2013 15:58 GMT
#2051
So much hate in this thread for duckdeok lol! Keep it up guys, Im enjoying this.

Yeah such a shocker duckdeok aka finale aka Code S protoss beats Grubby and Naniwa and gets to the finals. Like some mad hater said yesterday, "a no name Korean". Right.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Duckdeok

Well Apollo telling it too in the stream.

Im so happy finale beat these foreigners, just because of these butthurt fanboys. :D
SEKO SEKO MMA<3 SEKO SEKO
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 11 2013 15:59 GMT
#2052
MC put on mad weight yo
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
August 11 2013 15:59 GMT
#2053
On August 12 2013 00:58 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:54 Waxangel wrote:
Duckdeok is outdoing Sniper, holy fuck


Probably because he changed his name so people think he's new.


Let's be honest finale wasn't quite a household name even though he deserved it between his GSTL and online showings.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 11 2013 15:59 GMT
#2054
On August 12 2013 00:54 KaneZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:49 MrSourGit wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:27 Kergy wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:24 MrSourGit wrote:
I am not going to watch 2 Koreans fight for my regions championship .... boring.

What a load of shit.

Should have to stick to your region ...... so so stupid. The largest spectator crowds are NA and EU right ? We wanna see our players ..... uhhhhh.

Ladder time.


well, tell them to l2p

finale has a new fan :D


Koreans are better , we all fkin know that , but for once i wanna see a competition won by OUR fking players .... on OUR fucking region ....

Oh fuck it , Next European football in 2016 , Why dont we just invite Brazil and Argentina ? Who gives a shit they aint from Europe !!!


You have to put it somewhat different: Qualification for FIFA World Cup (~WCS Season Final) is divided into regional qualifiers. If it would be in football as it is in WCS, European teams would spread into NA, Asia and Africa qualifier and there would only be European nationalteams at Fifa World Cup. Everyone would state that would be totaly stupid, but somehow many of the community accept it for WCS?!?


Lol, if World Cup has the same amount of spots for Asian teams and European teams, you know how much rage that would cause?
MrSourGit
Profile Joined August 2012
England135 Posts
August 11 2013 15:59 GMT
#2055
On August 12 2013 00:54 KaneZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:49 MrSourGit wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:27 Kergy wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:24 MrSourGit wrote:
I am not going to watch 2 Koreans fight for my regions championship .... boring.

What a load of shit.

Should have to stick to your region ...... so so stupid. The largest spectator crowds are NA and EU right ? We wanna see our players ..... uhhhhh.

Ladder time.


well, tell them to l2p

finale has a new fan :D


Koreans are better , we all fkin know that , but for once i wanna see a competition won by OUR fking players .... on OUR fucking region ....

Oh fuck it , Next European football in 2016 , Why dont we just invite Brazil and Argentina ? Who gives a shit they aint from Europe !!!


You have to put it somewhat different: Qualification for FIFA World Cup (~WCS Season Final) is divided into regional qualifiers. If it would be in football as it is in WCS, European teams would spread into NA, Asia and Africa qualifier and there would only be European nationalteams at Fifa World Cup. Everyone would state that would be totaly stupid, but somehow many of the community accept it for WCS?!?



Exactly , imagine IF EU teams could compete in the African region ? .....

Ah man , and we have guys here who suck up to the koreans playing on our regions ? For what ?
Winston Churchill - ''I may be drunk, Miss , but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly'
EmmeCY
Profile Joined June 2012
Malaysia417 Posts
August 11 2013 15:59 GMT
#2056
rooting harder for MC now!
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
August 11 2013 15:59 GMT
#2057
On August 12 2013 00:56 Wildmoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:54 Derez wrote:
If there was a crazy market for EU/US only tournaments they'd be happening anyway. Reality is that everyone claims to want EU/US tournaments but when they actually happen noone watches because its incredibly boring.


EU is not the same as US.

ESET masters LAN was what, 3 months ago and entirely EU if I recall right. Stream never even broke 15k.

My point is simply that if tournaments thought they could rake in more viewers by going exclusively EU/US, they would have done so. There's a very vocal EU/US fanbase on these forums but they're a minority, judging by the viewer counts on nationality exclusive events.
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-11 15:59:47
August 11 2013 15:59 GMT
#2058
Blizzard should have named it simply WCS. Nothing related to continents.

All this EU/NA/KR bullshit.. i just wanna see some good starcraft, and root for my favorite players. Ideally both.
월요 날 재미있
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 11 2013 15:59 GMT
#2059
On August 12 2013 00:56 Weavel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 00:55 LimitSEA wrote:
On August 12 2013 00:53 XaCez wrote:
How to become the worst human on the planet according to the StarCraft II community:
Successfully defeat any of the following StarCraft II players in a Match:
Grubby, TLO, Snute

I'd tell you to add Stephano to that list, but he's no longer with us.

Looks like I'm going to have to avoid Grubby LR's as much as I avoided Stephano LR's. The fans are just unbearable.
It's really sad. No matter how nice the guy is fans are always pretty bad.

I love Grubby to bits. He's an awesome dude and I want him to succeed and all. But holy crap, if this is how his fans react to him losing? Jesus.

Feels like the collective IQ of the LR thread just drops 30 points when any fan favourite player is involved.
Long live the King of Wings
j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
August 11 2013 15:59 GMT
#2060
Bosstoss vs Ducktoss
someone_elses_lies@live.fr
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