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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#1021
On July 23 2013 19:56 Abominous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:55 AgentW wrote:
Woke up early, and my sound wasn't working so I rebooted and now my computer's running Windows updates ughhh. Any ETA on the Soulkey-Innovation series?

Now.

As in it's beginning? Shit shit shit go Windows go
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
July 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#1022
On July 23 2013 19:55 Lunareste wrote:
For funsies!

Poll: Who wins? Innovation or Soulkey?

Soulkey 3-2? (9)
 
30%

Innovation 3-1? (8)
 
27%

Innovation 3-2? (5)
 
17%

Soulkey 3-1? (5)
 
17%

Innovation 3-0? (3)
 
10%

Soulkey 3-0? (0)
 
0%

30 total votes

Your vote: Who wins? Innovation or Soulkey?

(Vote): Innovation 3-2?
(Vote): Innovation 3-1?
(Vote): Innovation 3-0?
(Vote): Soulkey 3-2?
(Vote): Soulkey 3-1?
(Vote): Soulkey 3-0?



KT FlaSh FOREVER
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
July 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#1023
On July 23 2013 19:55 opterown wrote:
Soulkey vs. INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Star Station> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Gwangalli Beach> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Whirlwind> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Anaconda> <Akilon Wastes> (T)INnoVation

The Bomber boy
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
July 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#1024
Innovation isn't a strategic mastermind, he does the same build pretty much every time and wins because his mechanics and execution are ridiculous.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
July 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#1025
haha those win stats are ridiculous.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 23 2013 10:57 GMT
#1026
On July 23 2013 19:57 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:56 Abominous wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:55 AgentW wrote:
Woke up early, and my sound wasn't working so I rebooted and now my computer's running Windows updates ughhh. Any ETA on the Soulkey-Innovation series?

Now.

As in it's beginning? Shit shit shit go Windows go


Hasn't started yet. Probably in a minute.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
July 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#1027
GOGO Soulkey i want you to win this so badly. And then you are supposed to lose to Rain in the finals <3
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
July 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#1028
--- Nuked ---
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 10:59:46
July 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#1029
In my opinion :

Soulkey vs. INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Star Station> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Gwangalli Beach> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Whirlwind> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Anaconda> (T)INnoVation

I just can't see INno winning on Whirlwind, and I do think it'll be a 3 - 2 !

COME ON !
LiquipediaWanderer
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
July 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#1030
Cmon SOULKEY!!! I want a dual OSL/GSL winner!!!
KT FlaSh FOREVER
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
July 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#1031
Wow is it me but can you oldies feel the transition is happening from TBLS to these two guys?
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
July 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#1032
On July 23 2013 19:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:52 DidYuhim wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:49 Wintex wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:49 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:46 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:43 mrtomjones wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs...


It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive.

Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units.

Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility.

The reasons go on and on.

Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens.

If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech.

They are not meant to be mixed together.

Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup.


I'd love to see more Mech too. Unfortunately Blizzard has seen fit to keep putting units like Immortal and the Viper into the game that hard counter the crap out of Siege tanks for no reason.


Yeah immortals are in there for no reason except you know... for the fact that Toss couldnt win a game against zerg without at least the threat of an immortal, sentry push.


You could EASILY nerf Hardened Shields so that they didn't hard counter Siege Tanks and still keep the Immortal as good as it is vs Zerg.

The 10 damage cap means 2 damage mitigation vs Roaches without upgrades, it means 40 damage vs siege tanks.

You could up the armor on Immortals by 2, and set the cap on Hardened Shields to 25 damage and you'd make HUGE headway in making the unit less of a hard counter vs Mech.

Doesn't seem like a bad thought Vindi.

Would make immos better against lings and marines. I'd rather add 2 armor on shields instead of base armor.


Having Immortals have that kind of armor wouldn't even really be a big deal vs Lings or Marines, their biggest weakness vs Marines and Zerglings is their slow firing rate.

The DPS they do to non-armored units is pathetic for the supply and resource cost of the unit which is why they suck vs Marines, Zealots and Lings.

Also that extra armor wouldn't help their shields at all, which is where their health regenerates.

I'm not saying that armor buff would make Immos good against Lings/marines/Zealots, I mean the damage drop for those units against Immortals would be crazy high. You're essentially throwing Zergs back into the WonWonWon era.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
July 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#1033
On July 23 2013 19:56 bo1b wrote:
Khaldor, innovation basically uses the same tvz strat everygame....


well, I interpreted Strategy as his how strategic his play is. And he always takes the right engagements, pushes and drops at the perfect timings (drops when the Zerg is out of position) etc.
So if you interpret it like this his strategy is one of his strong points. If you talk about opening or gameplan: yeah, he uses the same almost every game
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#1034
On July 23 2013 19:46 robson1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:43 mrtomjones wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs...


It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive.

Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units.

Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility.

The reasons go on and on.

Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens.

If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech.

They are not meant to be mixed together.

Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup.


I'd love to see more Mech too. Unfortunately Blizzard has seen fit to keep putting units like Immortal and the Viper into the game that hard counter the crap out of Siege tanks for no reason.


Yeah immortals are in there for no reason except you know... for the fact that Toss couldnt win a game against zerg without at least the threat of an immortal, sentry push.


Immortals were a pretty nice mechanic when they still had range 5, to bad they changed that. And yes I miss Immortals spidering, showing the player has no idea how to micro. But I also miss range 3 Roaches, so I am an odd one. The Vipers might be a reason that Siege tanks might end up at 2 supply one day so I don't mind them.
Only a matter of time till they change Abduct anyway, I hope they won't reduce the range flat but more like the pull to 10 - supply of the target.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#1035
Best TvZ we'll probably see this season.
Calt
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany1140 Posts
July 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#1036
On July 23 2013 19:56 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:55 govie wrote:
Wondering what innovation does after the bansheepatch


i'm just waiting for banshees in tvz & tvp too


With the MSC around banshees are never gonna be used in TvP :p Personally I think they are pretty neat in TvZ though and I use them a lot on ladder myself.
Maru | MMA | Ryung | MKP | NaDa | BoxeR | FOREVER SLAYERS
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
July 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#1037
Guys Anaconda was the first veto! It's Akilon.
The Bomber boy
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 23 2013 10:58 GMT
#1038
On July 23 2013 19:57 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:55 opterown wrote:
Soulkey vs. INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Star Station> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Gwangalli Beach> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Whirlwind> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Anaconda> (T)INnoVation


yup already fixed it

maps starting with a are all the same man
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sibs
Profile Joined July 2012
635 Posts
July 23 2013 10:59 GMT
#1039
innovation 3-1 or 3-0 imo
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
July 23 2013 10:59 GMT
#1040
On July 23 2013 19:58 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:57 Wintex wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:55 opterown wrote:
Soulkey vs. INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Newkirk Redevelopment Precinct> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Star Station> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Gwangalli Beach> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Whirlwind> (T)INnoVation
(Z)Soulkey <Anaconda> <Akilon Wastes> (T)INnoVation


yup already fixed it

maps starting with a are all the same man

Passion be dead.
The Bomber boy
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