It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive.

Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units.

Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility.

The reasons go on and on.

Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens.

If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech.

They are not meant to be mixed together.

Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup.

I'd love to see more Mech too. Unfortunately Blizzard has seen fit to keep putting units like Immortal and the Viper into the game that hard counter the crap out of Siege tanks for no reason.

Yeah immortals are in there for no reason except you know... for the fact that Toss couldnt win a game against zerg without at least the threat of an immortal, sentry push.

You could EASILY nerf Hardened Shields so that they didn't hard counter Siege Tanks and still keep the Immortal as good as it is vs Zerg.

The 10 damage cap means 2 damage mitigation vs Roaches without upgrades, it means 40 damage vs siege tanks.

You could up the armor on Immortals by 2, and set the cap on Hardened Shields to 25 damage and you'd make HUGE headway in making the unit less of a hard counter vs Mech.

Doesn't seem like a bad thought Vindi.

Would make immos better against lings and marines. I'd rather add 2 armor on shields instead of base armor.

Having Immortals have that kind of armor wouldn't even really be a big deal vs Lings or Marines, their biggest weakness vs Marines and Zerglings is their slow firing rate.

The DPS they do to non-armored units is pathetic for the supply and resource cost of the unit which is why they suck vs Marines, Zealots and Lings.

Also that extra armor wouldn't help their shields at all, which is where their health regenerates.

I'm not saying that armor buff would make Immos good against Lings/marines/Zealots, I mean the damage drop for those units against Immortals would be crazy high. You're essentially throwing Zergs back into the WonWonWon era.

Yello

Germany7411 Posts

July 23 2013 10:58 GMT

#1033

On July 23 2013 19:56 bo1b wrote:
Khaldor, innovation basically uses the same tvz strat everygame....

well, I interpreted Strategy as his how strategic his play is. And he always takes the right engagements, pushes and drops at the perfect timings (drops when the Zerg is out of position) etc.
So if you interpret it like this his strategy is one of his strong points. If you talk about opening or gameplan: yeah, he uses the same almost every game

FeyFey

Germany10114 Posts

July 23 2013 10:58 GMT

#1034

On July 23 2013 19:46 robson1 wrote:

Show nested quote +

Yeah immortals are in there for no reason except you know... for the fact that Toss couldnt win a game against zerg without at least the threat of an immortal, sentry push.

Immortals were a pretty nice mechanic when they still had range 5, to bad they changed that. And yes I miss Immortals spidering, showing the player has no idea how to micro. But I also miss range 3 Roaches, so I am an odd one. The Vipers might be a reason that Siege tanks might end up at 2 supply one day so I don't mind them.
Only a matter of time till they change Abduct anyway, I hope they won't reduce the range flat but more like the pull to 10 - supply of the target.

Derez

Netherlands6068 Posts

July 23 2013 10:58 GMT

#1035

Best TvZ we'll probably see this season.

Calt

Germany1140 Posts

July 23 2013 10:58 GMT

#1036

On July 23 2013 19:56 monkybone wrote:

Show nested quote +

i'm just waiting for banshees in tvz & tvp too

With the MSC around banshees are never gonna be used in TvP :p Personally I think they are pretty neat in TvZ though and I use them a lot on ladder myself.