• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:14
CEST 21:14
KST 04:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror4[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10
Community News
SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup10StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026)73Weekly Cups (Sept 21-27): herO and ByuN double2Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2316
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.17 PTR Patch Notes (Sept 30, 2026) SC4ALL: II SC2 Complete Invited Player Lineup How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Back to SC2 after 14 years - Protoss CTRL groups? October World Ranking: herO stays #1, ByuN returns
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) SC2 INu's Battles#21 [ 3-Days tournament ]
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 546 Catch the Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble
Brood War
General
20-year-old Valorant player starting StarCraft Sagi.gg Launcher Released Fantasy returning? Bot on ladder [ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror
Tourneys
[ASL22] Semifinal A [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 4 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Escaping Into Video Games: G…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9378 users

[OSL] RO8 Day 1 WCS Korea Season 2 2013 - Page 53

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 51 52 53 54 55 107 Next
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-23 10:59:49
July 23 2013 10:59 GMT
#1041
On July 23 2013 19:57 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:57 AgentW wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:56 Abominous wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:55 AgentW wrote:
Woke up early, and my sound wasn't working so I rebooted and now my computer's running Windows updates ughhh. Any ETA on the Soulkey-Innovation series?

Now.

As in it's beginning? Shit shit shit go Windows go


Hasn't started yet. Probably in a minute.

Thank you.

19 out of 47 dammit can you go any slower?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
TheFlexN
Profile Joined March 2012
Israel472 Posts
July 23 2013 10:59 GMT
#1042
On July 23 2013 19:56 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:56 Emzeeshady wrote:
I don't get the comparison to Flash.

Maru's strongpoint is his micro
Flash's strongpoint is his macro

Maru goes bio every game
Flash dabbles in mech

Maru loves drops and multitasking
Flash is about positioning and engagements

They are not similar at all.

They both play terran!

WOW, maru is exactly like flash!!!
An Esports fan, playing SC2 and LoL because they are fun. Huge fan of mapmaking, Cloud Kingdom = best map ever made EVER.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
July 23 2013 10:59 GMT
#1043
On July 23 2013 19:58 FeyFey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:46 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:43 mrtomjones wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs...


It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive.

Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units.

Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility.

The reasons go on and on.

Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens.

If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech.

They are not meant to be mixed together.

Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup.


I'd love to see more Mech too. Unfortunately Blizzard has seen fit to keep putting units like Immortal and the Viper into the game that hard counter the crap out of Siege tanks for no reason.


Yeah immortals are in there for no reason except you know... for the fact that Toss couldnt win a game against zerg without at least the threat of an immortal, sentry push.


Immortals were a pretty nice mechanic when they still had range 5, to bad they changed that. And yes I miss Immortals spidering, showing the player has no idea how to micro. But I also miss range 3 Roaches, so I am an odd one. The Vipers might be a reason that Siege tanks might end up at 2 supply one day so I don't mind them.
Only a matter of time till they change Abduct anyway, I hope they won't reduce the range flat but more like the pull to 10 - supply of the target.


You miss 3 range roaches and 5 range immortals.... you're a terran right?^^
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16126 Posts
July 23 2013 10:59 GMT
#1044
On July 23 2013 19:58 DidYuhim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:55 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:52 DidYuhim wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:49 Wintex wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:49 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:46 robson1 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:45 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:43 mrtomjones wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:37 Vindicare605 wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:35 mrtomjones wrote:
I wish the Terran had reason to tech to tier 3. Would love to see some Thors or BCs...


It's not only that they have no reason to, it's actually counter productive.

Bio units don't share upgrades with BCs and Thors, Zerg and Protoss ground forces DO share upgrades with Tier 3 units.

Thors and BCs are incredibly immobile, Bio's greatest strength is its mobility.

The reasons go on and on.

Terran is designed that way. If you're playing Bio, you're playing Bio supported by Starport support units like Medivacs, Vikings and occasionally Ravens.

If you're playing Mech you're playing Mech.

They are not meant to be mixed together.

Well it would be nice to actually see some more mech then is what I mean or having some reason to go BCs more often than the never happening now. Seeing BCs as a transition out of Bio would be nice. It isnt like it wouldnt be possible if it were a useful unit in this matchup.


I'd love to see more Mech too. Unfortunately Blizzard has seen fit to keep putting units like Immortal and the Viper into the game that hard counter the crap out of Siege tanks for no reason.


Yeah immortals are in there for no reason except you know... for the fact that Toss couldnt win a game against zerg without at least the threat of an immortal, sentry push.


You could EASILY nerf Hardened Shields so that they didn't hard counter Siege Tanks and still keep the Immortal as good as it is vs Zerg.

The 10 damage cap means 2 damage mitigation vs Roaches without upgrades, it means 40 damage vs siege tanks.

You could up the armor on Immortals by 2, and set the cap on Hardened Shields to 25 damage and you'd make HUGE headway in making the unit less of a hard counter vs Mech.

Doesn't seem like a bad thought Vindi.

Would make immos better against lings and marines. I'd rather add 2 armor on shields instead of base armor.


Having Immortals have that kind of armor wouldn't even really be a big deal vs Lings or Marines, their biggest weakness vs Marines and Zerglings is their slow firing rate.

The DPS they do to non-armored units is pathetic for the supply and resource cost of the unit which is why they suck vs Marines, Zealots and Lings.

Also that extra armor wouldn't help their shields at all, which is where their health regenerates.

I'm not saying that armor buff would make Immos good against Lings/marines/Zealots, I mean the damage drop for those units against Immortals would be crazy high. You're essentially throwing Zergs back into the WonWonWon era.

Fair enough, I suppose it would make holding the Immo/sentry all in harder. I guess that would make the extra shield armor superior.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Aeleron
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia71 Posts
July 23 2013 10:59 GMT
#1045
On July 23 2013 19:58 YyapSsap wrote:
Wow is it me but can you oldies feel the transition is happening from TBLS to these two guys?


It went from TBLS to Jangbi/Fantasy to Soulkey/Innovation
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
July 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#1046
On July 23 2013 19:56 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:55 govie wrote:
Wondering what innovation does after the bansheepatch


i'm just waiting for banshees in tvz & tvp too


i could see a comeback of the 111 in tvp
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#1047
--- Nuked ---
purgerinho
Profile Joined June 2008
Croatia919 Posts
July 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#1048
i think artosis doesn't like khaldor so much
SUMMARIZED (by DeMu): You CANNOT surprise a top level Protoss with a build
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
July 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#1049
Would be so cool if Innovation wins regional finals, OSL, Shanghai and Proleague :D
Prince_Stranger
Profile Joined November 2010
Kazakhstan762 Posts
July 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#1050
On July 23 2013 19:58 Derez wrote:
Best TvZ we'll probably see this season.

When expecting great games we got bad/worst games.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
July 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#1051
Then again, Soulkey could have GSL + OSL and Proleague as well.
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
July 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#1052
WJS vs STX PL final preview
yo
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
July 23 2013 11:00 GMT
#1053
--- Nuked ---
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
July 23 2013 11:01 GMT
#1054
On July 23 2013 20:00 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:56 monkybone wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:55 govie wrote:
Wondering what innovation does after the bansheepatch


i'm just waiting for banshees in tvz & tvp too


i could see a comeback of the 111 in tvp


It sucks vs nexus cannon
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 23 2013 11:01 GMT
#1055
On July 23 2013 20:00 Prince_Stranger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:58 Derez wrote:
Best TvZ we'll probably see this season.

When expecting great games we got bad/worst games.


Hey, don't kill our expectations of fun please !
LiquipediaWanderer
YyapSsap
Profile Joined September 2010
New Zealand1511 Posts
July 23 2013 11:01 GMT
#1056
On July 23 2013 19:59 Aeleron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:58 YyapSsap wrote:
Wow is it me but can you oldies feel the transition is happening from TBLS to these two guys?


It went from TBLS to Jangbi/Fantasy to Soulkey/Innovation


I don't know about Jangbi or Fantasy. They feel more like a Kingdom/Xellos to me. Soulkey and Inno is just dominating everyone for awhile now.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
July 23 2013 11:01 GMT
#1057
On July 23 2013 20:00 purgerinho wrote:
i think artosis doesn't like khaldor so much

I remember the first time they casted together and it was extremely awesome, guess they are having a bit of a battle of egos going on right now.
robson1
Profile Joined March 2013
3632 Posts
July 23 2013 11:01 GMT
#1058
On July 23 2013 20:00 purgerinho wrote:
i think artosis doesn't like khaldor so much


I think he does. They go to the gym together and shiat as far as I know.
Genius is that funny scientist who no one takes seriously until he kills you with a flame throwing trumpet. - stuchiu 2013
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
July 23 2013 11:01 GMT
#1059
On July 23 2013 20:00 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2013 19:56 monkybone wrote:
On July 23 2013 19:55 govie wrote:
Wondering what innovation does after the bansheepatch


i'm just waiting for banshees in tvz & tvp too


i could see a comeback of the 111 in tvp

No siege research either. I'm actually surprised we haven't seen it yet.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
July 23 2013 11:01 GMT
#1060
This pause between the matches is sooooo long, come on...
Dating thread on TL LUL
Prev 1 51 52 53 54 55 107 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
01:00
#66
TKL 1638
RotterdaM869
TaKeTV 351
IndyStarCraft 200
SteadfastSC135
ZombieGrub67
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 1638
RotterdaM 869
IndyStarCraft 200
MaxPax 165
RuFF_SC2 139
SteadfastSC 135
UpATreeSC 68
ZombieGrub67
MindelVK 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2914
Shuttle 551
Dewaltoss 102
910 75
Mind 69
Zeus 63
Bale 15
Counter-Strike
fl0m6287
pashabiceps1261
Fnx 660
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby4496
Liquid`Hasu496
Other Games
Beastyqt792
ceh9466
mouzStarbuck382
C9.Mang0149
ToD124
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV222
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream26
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• kabyraGe 135
• Reevou 7
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 18
• Eskiya23 14
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie823
• Shiphtur307
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 46m
Afreeca Starleague
14h 46m
Soma vs Soulkey
INu's Battles
15h 46m
SHIN vs Cure
ByuN vs Zoun
PiGosaur Cup
1d 4h
Patches Events
1d 20h
The PondCast
2 days
INu's Battles
2 days
Percival vs TBD
TBD vs herO
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
OSC
4 days
[ Show More ]
BSL: Ladder Tournament
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Patches Events
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
BSL Open Qualifier
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Copium Cup

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSB
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
HCC Season 3
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.