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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
July 19 2013 19:47 GMT
#1221
--- Nuked ---
Meow-Meow
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany451 Posts
July 19 2013 19:47 GMT
#1222
What the shit? Huk beat Noname and Prostatitus?

What the huk happened? Didn't they show up or something?
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ) Like all techno, it's hard to tell if it's good music played horribly or horrible music played well.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
July 19 2013 19:47 GMT
#1223
On July 20 2013 04:45 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:43 Extenz wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:40 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
The thing I find frustrating about these games is people constantly saying it's comparable or even worse than BL/infestor... it's like they lost their memory. Nothing happened in BL/infestor games. Nothing. With this style there are constant engagements, multi pronged harass, many moving parts in the armies, etc. Stephano's style of doing it is a little slower and dragged out than usual, but it's normally better and even here it's not even remotely similar to the blandness of BL/infestor.


Constant engagements vs free units is not entertaining..



That's like saying engagements with siege tanks is not entertaining because tanks can shell your army for free.

no its not..it would be like siege tanks fighting a endless swarm of locust or broodlings.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
July 19 2013 19:47 GMT
#1224
On July 20 2013 04:46 LeLfe wrote:
Mlord 1-0 TheStC atm



Oh yeah !!
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2954 Posts
July 19 2013 19:47 GMT
#1225
On July 20 2013 04:45 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On July 20 2013 04:44 Swisslink wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:
WhiteRa proving once again that Corruptors >>>>>> Carriers


Uhm... that's how it's supposed to be. Corruptor's are meant to be the counter to Carriers.

I'm not complaining. I'm just describing what is happening


Oh... I'm sorry :o
Quote often it's a complaint if someone writes something like that :-/
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
July 19 2013 19:47 GMT
#1226
On July 20 2013 04:45 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:43 Extenz wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:40 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
The thing I find frustrating about these games is people constantly saying it's comparable or even worse than BL/infestor... it's like they lost their memory. Nothing happened in BL/infestor games. Nothing. With this style there are constant engagements, multi pronged harass, many moving parts in the armies, etc. Stephano's style of doing it is a little slower and dragged out than usual, but it's normally better and even here it's not even remotely similar to the blandness of BL/infestor.


Constant engagements vs free units is not entertaining..



That's like saying engagements with siege tanks is not entertaining because tanks can shell your army for free.


I didnt realize tanks in siegemode can walk arround the map. And that is only one of the many points that are wrong in your statement.
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 19:48:02
July 19 2013 19:47 GMT
#1227
On July 20 2013 04:44 Swisslink wrote:
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On July 20 2013 04:40 ImperialFist wrote:
This style of play is probably stronger than WOL BL/Infestor

But I love seeing it happen to Protoss :D



Not really. It's way easier to beat, there are Protoss' in Korea who beat this style. And It's really map dependent -> BL/Infestor was not.

The maps that Zerg can do it on make it almost impossible to beat if Zerg doesn't make many mistakes.

BL/Infestor was map dependent. For example, it was very strong on Antiga Shipyard. Not so much on Whirlwind.
KainiT
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria392 Posts
July 19 2013 19:48 GMT
#1228
I love Artosis and Apollo casting together, I think I like it even better than Tastosis.
With great power comes great responsibility.
ReMinD_
Profile Joined May 2013
Croatia846 Posts
July 19 2013 19:48 GMT
#1229
Personally, I find it enjoyable to watch Protoss' deathball squirm vs. Swarm Hosts. It makes the game feel a lot more strategic than watching an all-in.
Parting: Well, even I can make better maps than these.
Scville
Profile Joined May 2013
43 Posts
July 19 2013 19:48 GMT
#1230
On July 20 2013 04:45 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:43 Extenz wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:40 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
The thing I find frustrating about these games is people constantly saying it's comparable or even worse than BL/infestor... it's like they lost their memory. Nothing happened in BL/infestor games. Nothing. With this style there are constant engagements, multi pronged harass, many moving parts in the armies, etc. Stephano's style of doing it is a little slower and dragged out than usual, but it's normally better and even here it's not even remotely similar to the blandness of BL/infestor.


Constant engagements vs free units is not entertaining..



That's like saying engagements with siege tanks is not entertaining because tanks can shell your army for free.


Too bad you can't turtle behind spines with siege tanks while you attack ur opponent base.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 19 2013 19:48 GMT
#1231
That's exactly what you're supposed to do starDust.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
July 19 2013 19:48 GMT
#1232
On July 20 2013 04:46 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:45 oogieogie wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:43 Swiipii wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:39 neptunusfisk wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:36 Swiipii wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:35 neptunusfisk wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:33 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:32 Sated wrote:
This is worse than watching Brood Lord/Infestor...


This might be the most untrue thing ever posted on the internet.


How can you even say that? SH/Viper is the same level of horrible as BL/infestor.

There's has been action all game long. How can you even compare this to BL/infestor?


There was hopeless, desperate action all around in BL/infestor games aswell, just fyi

You have no clue. BL/infestors used to kill any army staright up. Doesn't matter if you're on 3 bases against 25 as long as you have this unit composition and the engagements ... no coment.

In this game Stephano defended the double pronge attacks perfectly, got the better micro in most engagements and did all the good unit switches (hydras, roaches, swarmhosts, corruptors, infestors, corruptors etc). He was on better upgrades most of the game even tough his opponent went for a quite greedy build (double forge, quick third than 4th).

I get it that people fear for a new "BL/infestors era" but this is nothing like it.

unless idk..terran got a decent number of ravens or protoss got a decent vortex with archons.

Terrans had to build tanks who are terrible against Broodlords and the raven switch was much harder. Vortex meant relying on your opponent making a big mistake (not splitting his units).

It was still there, and zerg not spliting a super slow ass unit that natually clumps while you can have 2 vortexs is kinda hard
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
July 19 2013 19:48 GMT
#1233
Stardust back to basics...bring the pain!!!
~~(,,ºº>
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 19 2013 19:49 GMT
#1234
On July 20 2013 04:47 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:45 Mozdk wrote:
HuK beats Ret 2-0!

8 Gate YOLO?



Nope.

Second game was just Ret thinking he could be aggro off 3 bases. He usually needs 8 hatches to win...

So no 8 hatch YOLO either
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Meow-Meow
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Germany451 Posts
July 19 2013 19:49 GMT
#1235
On July 20 2013 04:47 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:45 Mozdk wrote:
HuK beats Ret 2-0!

8 Gate YOLO?



That has to be his best performance since 2012, hasn't it?
| (• ◡•)|╯ ╰(❍ᴥ❍ʋ) Like all techno, it's hard to tell if it's good music played horribly or horrible music played well.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 19 2013 19:49 GMT
#1236
On July 20 2013 04:43 labbe wrote:
So I've been mostly watching dota2 lately. Decided to check out the stream to see how the game is being played these days. Bad Idea


It's thankfully not really played like that these days though. Or at least not of what I've seen (and I watch a lot).
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
July 19 2013 19:49 GMT
#1237
Almost all people here are NUTS. WoL BL+infestor was weaker than this?!?!?!? You don't know how it is confronting 30 BL's with the only counter being Blink stalkers.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
July 19 2013 19:49 GMT
#1238
Goswser 2-0 Psionic
Verdi 2-1 Minimath

(yes sorry I just know the results for French players )
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 19 2013 19:49 GMT
#1239
Yugioh 2-1 Whitera
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 19 2013 19:50 GMT
#1240
Oh boy, JD just lost a game to Targa.
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