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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 19 2013 19:43 GMT
#1201
WhiteRa proving once again that Corruptors >>>>>> Carriers
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revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
July 19 2013 19:44 GMT
#1202
Artosis and Apollo together = awesome casting!
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
July 19 2013 19:44 GMT
#1203
On July 20 2013 04:40 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
The thing I find frustrating about these games is people constantly saying it's comparable or even worse than BL/infestor... it's like they lost their memory. Nothing happened in BL/infestor games. Nothing. With this style there are constant engagements, multi pronged harass, many moving parts in the armies, etc. Stephano's style of doing it is a little slower and dragged out than usual, but it's normally better and even here it's not even remotely similar to the blandness of BL/infestor.

all i got out of this post is how dare people have a different opinion then me.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2956 Posts
July 19 2013 19:44 GMT
#1204
On July 20 2013 04:40 ImperialFist wrote:
This style of play is probably stronger than WOL BL/Infestor

But I love seeing it happen to Protoss :D



Not really. It's way easier to beat, there are Protoss' in Korea who beat this style. And It's really map dependent -> BL/Infestor was not.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 19 2013 19:44 GMT
#1205
So the bugs can't beat the aliens right? - Tasteless

Stephano making it look "easy". What stream is JD on?
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2956 Posts
July 19 2013 19:44 GMT
#1206
On July 20 2013 04:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:
WhiteRa proving once again that Corruptors >>>>>> Carriers


Uhm... that's how it's supposed to be. Corruptor's are meant to be the counter to Carriers.
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 19 2013 19:45 GMT
#1207
On July 20 2013 04:44 shabby wrote:
So the bugs can't beat the aliens right? - Tasteless

Stephano making it look "easy". What stream is JD on?


ZombieGrub.
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
July 19 2013 19:45 GMT
#1208
COM ON! This is not stronger than BL+Infestor of WoL, lol. The counter to BL+infestor was blink down the BL and be killed with the broodlongs -.-
Schnell_
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway92 Posts
July 19 2013 19:45 GMT
#1209
On July 20 2013 04:41 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:40 NovaMB wrote:
Lol Jaedong just won game 1 against TargA through Changelings


Explain more please!

Epic basetrade which TargA seemed to be winning, but Jaedong got out like 15 mutas just before all his bases were killed, and used changelings on the ramp leading up to where he built his last extractor to stop TargA's roaches and hydras while mutas killed them.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
July 19 2013 19:45 GMT
#1210
On July 20 2013 04:40 ptbl wrote:
Not impressed with stardust play. His control seems lackluster and his multitasking wasn't that great.


I've never been impressed with his play. His win was a one of kind of thing, it was his unique and unknown style of play together with an excellent run where he was on roll and was hitting every force field. I doubt we'll ever see him win a tournament again
Get off my lawn, young punks
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
July 19 2013 19:45 GMT
#1211
On July 20 2013 04:43 Swiipii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:39 neptunusfisk wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:36 Swiipii wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:35 neptunusfisk wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:33 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:32 Sated wrote:
This is worse than watching Brood Lord/Infestor...


This might be the most untrue thing ever posted on the internet.


How can you even say that? SH/Viper is the same level of horrible as BL/infestor.

There's has been action all game long. How can you even compare this to BL/infestor?


There was hopeless, desperate action all around in BL/infestor games aswell, just fyi

You have no clue. BL/infestors used to kill any army staright up. Doesn't matter if you're on 3 bases against 25 as long as you have this unit composition and the engagements ... no coment.

In this game Stephano defended the double pronge attacks perfectly, got the better micro in most engagements and did all the good unit switches (hydras, roaches, swarmhosts, corruptors, infestors, corruptors etc). He was on better upgrades most of the game even tough his opponent went for a quite greedy build (double forge, quick third than 4th).

I get it that people fear for a new "BL/infestors era" but this is nothing like it.

unless idk..terran got a decent number of ravens or protoss got a decent vortex with archons.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 19 2013 19:45 GMT
#1212
On July 20 2013 04:44 Swisslink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:
WhiteRa proving once again that Corruptors >>>>>> Carriers


Uhm... that's how it's supposed to be. Corruptor's are meant to be the counter to Carriers.

I'm not complaining. I'm just describing what is happening
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 19 2013 19:45 GMT
#1213
HuK beats Ret 2-0!
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
July 19 2013 19:45 GMT
#1214
On July 20 2013 04:43 Extenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:40 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
The thing I find frustrating about these games is people constantly saying it's comparable or even worse than BL/infestor... it's like they lost their memory. Nothing happened in BL/infestor games. Nothing. With this style there are constant engagements, multi pronged harass, many moving parts in the armies, etc. Stephano's style of doing it is a little slower and dragged out than usual, but it's normally better and even here it's not even remotely similar to the blandness of BL/infestor.


Constant engagements vs free units is not entertaining..



That's like saying engagements with siege tanks is not entertaining because tanks can shell your army for free.
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
July 19 2013 19:46 GMT
#1215
Mlord 1-0 TheStC atm
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 19 2013 19:46 GMT
#1216
I want to see Immortals pounding Stephano's town hall this game.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 20:01:29
July 19 2013 19:46 GMT
#1217
On July 20 2013 04:41 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:40 NovaMB wrote:
Lol Jaedong just won game 1 against TargA through Changelings


Explain more please!


Full on Basetrade on Star Station with Roach/Hydra/Swarm Hosts for Targa against Roach//Swarm Hosts/Muta for Jaedong.

TargA has the overwhelming army (up atleast 40 supply), but no mining since Roaches are already in his bases. Jaedong uses most of this bank for 15 desperation mutas and slowly kills the army of Targa, who only had 7 Hydras.

Jaedong loses every building but a Hatchery in the upper left corner and has 4 drones scattered across the map (TargAs drones were under attack and none left eventually). Jaedongs last hatch was found and killed, but he built 2 extractors in the corners of the map. Jaedong only had 1 Roach left (killing Targas last drone) and 12 Mutas

Jaedong was revealed and Targa send all his units (still under barrage from mutas) to the last extractor. Jaedong quickly puts 10+ Changelings on the ramp leading to the base and blocks every unit while the Mutas kill everything.

Jaedong wins with 20 supply against 0 for Targa
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3396 Posts
July 19 2013 19:46 GMT
#1218
On July 20 2013 04:45 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:43 Extenz wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:40 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
The thing I find frustrating about these games is people constantly saying it's comparable or even worse than BL/infestor... it's like they lost their memory. Nothing happened in BL/infestor games. Nothing. With this style there are constant engagements, multi pronged harass, many moving parts in the armies, etc. Stephano's style of doing it is a little slower and dragged out than usual, but it's normally better and even here it's not even remotely similar to the blandness of BL/infestor.


Constant engagements vs free units is not entertaining..



That's like saying engagements with siege tanks is not entertaining because tanks can shell your army for free.

Unlike locust tank shell is guaranteed to do damage.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
July 19 2013 19:46 GMT
#1219
On July 20 2013 04:45 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:43 Swiipii wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:39 neptunusfisk wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:36 Swiipii wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:35 neptunusfisk wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:33 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:32 Sated wrote:
This is worse than watching Brood Lord/Infestor...


This might be the most untrue thing ever posted on the internet.


How can you even say that? SH/Viper is the same level of horrible as BL/infestor.

There's has been action all game long. How can you even compare this to BL/infestor?


There was hopeless, desperate action all around in BL/infestor games aswell, just fyi

You have no clue. BL/infestors used to kill any army staright up. Doesn't matter if you're on 3 bases against 25 as long as you have this unit composition and the engagements ... no coment.

In this game Stephano defended the double pronge attacks perfectly, got the better micro in most engagements and did all the good unit switches (hydras, roaches, swarmhosts, corruptors, infestors, corruptors etc). He was on better upgrades most of the game even tough his opponent went for a quite greedy build (double forge, quick third than 4th).

I get it that people fear for a new "BL/infestors era" but this is nothing like it.

unless idk..terran got a decent number of ravens or protoss got a decent vortex with archons.

Terrans had to build tanks who are terrible against Broodlords and the raven switch was much harder. Vortex meant relying on your opponent making a big mistake (not splitting his units).
Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
July 19 2013 19:47 GMT
#1220
On July 20 2013 04:45 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:43 Extenz wrote:
On July 20 2013 04:40 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
The thing I find frustrating about these games is people constantly saying it's comparable or even worse than BL/infestor... it's like they lost their memory. Nothing happened in BL/infestor games. Nothing. With this style there are constant engagements, multi pronged harass, many moving parts in the armies, etc. Stephano's style of doing it is a little slower and dragged out than usual, but it's normally better and even here it's not even remotely similar to the blandness of BL/infestor.


Constant engagements vs free units is not entertaining..



That's like saying engagements with siege tanks is not entertaining because tanks can shell your army for free.


Wow.
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