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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 19 2013 19:52 GMT
#1261
SD doing what SD does best.
I had a good night of sleep.
Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
July 19 2013 19:52 GMT
#1262
On July 20 2013 04:52 KristofferAG wrote:
That game was so much better.

Unbelieveable...
Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
July 19 2013 19:52 GMT
#1263
So nice, dying hard for being greedy.
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
July 19 2013 19:52 GMT
#1264
On July 20 2013 04:51 Arco wrote:
PvZ is the worst matchup in StarCraft 2.


These last 2 games perfectly demonstrate the problem. All in or die :D
~~(,,ºº>
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 19:53:44
July 19 2013 19:52 GMT
#1265
--- Nuked ---
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 19 2013 19:53 GMT
#1266
long turtly macro game->Stephano wins
2base allin->Stardust wins

what a surprise
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 19 2013 19:53 GMT
#1267
On July 20 2013 04:52 KristofferAG wrote:
That game was so much better.


This is how I prefer my ZvPs
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 19 2013 19:53 GMT
#1268
How can Artosis say "turtle swarm host" and still sound excited.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
July 19 2013 19:53 GMT
#1269
On July 20 2013 04:53 Schelim wrote:
long turtly macro game->Stephano wins
2base allin->Stardust wins

what a surprise


PvZ since late 2011, really.
Pyloss
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany1515 Posts
July 19 2013 19:53 GMT
#1270
revenge!
<3 sOs, Parting, Mana, Honor, TaKe, Mcanning<3
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
July 19 2013 19:53 GMT
#1271
I'm very impressed with their knowledge of Portugal. The Man. An excellent band to be sure
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 19:54:23
July 19 2013 19:53 GMT
#1272
Stephano outmacroing Stardust in a 40-minute positional game means Zerg is overpowered.

Stardust a-moving his way to victory despite his all-in build being scouted early just because Stephano missed one probe is a "good game."

At least admit they were both bad games...
Albinoswordfish
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States108 Posts
July 19 2013 19:53 GMT
#1273
The problem here is with Protoss, not Swarm hosts. Protoss can't split their army up because Gateway units die to Spine Crawlers. Vipers destroy a Colossus based army because Protoss has to rely on their expensive units to do any damage at all. I've said this many times Blizzard needs to overhaul Protoss because a lot of macro game involving them is usually deathball vs deathball turtlefest.
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
July 19 2013 19:54 GMT
#1274
On July 20 2013 03:59 BlackCompany wrote:
Cocojambo now please

DreamHack's dj needs to bust out Tropico 4's soundtrack!
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
July 19 2013 19:54 GMT
#1275
On July 20 2013 04:53 KristofferAG wrote:
How can Artosis say "turtle swarm host" and still sound excited.

maybe because he is a caster and cant just say "oh great turtle swarm hosts are so boring i am going to go get something to drink while you solo cast this apollo" or he just actually doesn't mind them or likes them.
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 19:55:24
July 19 2013 19:54 GMT
#1276
On July 20 2013 04:52 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:49 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Almost all people here are NUTS. WoL BL+infestor was weaker than this?!?!?!? You don't know how it is confronting 30 BL's with the only counter being Blink stalkers.

I never said that BL/Infestor was weaker, I said that I'd rather watch BL/Infestor. Both were foregone conclusions for a long time, but BL/Infestor would've ended the game much quicker.

At least you could 3 base all in instead of only 2 base allin.

Also, Vortex was an option, albeit arguably a weak one.

Broodlord/prenerf Fungal was more approachable than a ball of Locusts supported by Vipers and Static Defense.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
July 19 2013 19:54 GMT
#1277
On July 20 2013 04:53 KristofferAG wrote:
How can Artosis say "turtle swarm host" and still sound excited.


Because he is the Leonardo of turtles himself :D
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
July 19 2013 19:55 GMT
#1278
On July 20 2013 04:54 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 04:53 KristofferAG wrote:
How can Artosis say "turtle swarm host" and still sound excited.

maybe because he is a caster and cant just say "oh great turtle swarm hosts are so boring i am going to go get something to drink while you solo cast this apollo" or he just actually doesn't mind them or likes them.

I'm gonna go with "he's not allowed to not sound excited".

It's the only reasonable answer.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
July 19 2013 19:55 GMT
#1279
Akilon Wastes is good for turtle SH play, right?
-KG-
Profile Joined October 2012
Denmark1219 Posts
July 19 2013 19:55 GMT
#1280
Oh no, not Akilon... definitely have to all in on that :s
~~(,,ºº>
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