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On July 12 2013 02:39 Housemd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 01:53 Big J wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 lichter wrote:On July 12 2013 01:47 Big J wrote:
Btw, how are group standings decided?
Is it:
1. Match wins
2. set difference
3. set wins
4. direct duel
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Asking because Liquipedia says First isn't through yet, which would mean it is not like I described and there is some weird tiebreaker way to still prevent him from advancing. Only set wins. If there are ties, they play again. Tiebreakers are Bo1, played after the last day of Ro16. Ah ok, so if First wins one game he goes on, because then in the worst case for him it's 1. First 5-2 2. hyvaa 5-4 3. Rain 4-3 If he loses however 2-0, it can be 1. hyvaa 5-3 2. First 4-2 2. Rain 4-3 or 4-4 and First and Rain play a tiebreaker. Right? No lol. By set wins, its like how many series you won against other people in the group. First is 2-0 at the moment and has hvyaa left. If he loses, he goes 2-1 and hyvaa goes 2-1. Then, if Rain beats Fantasy, it would be Rain 2-1 with Fantasy 0-3. Therefore, Fantasy is eliminated and Hyvaa, Rain, and First play tiebreakers to determine which two advance. Another example: First beats Hyvaa, and Fantasy beats Rain. This means that Fantasy is 1-2, Rain is 1-2, Hyvaa is 1-2, and First is 3-0. First is through to the Round of 8 while Fantasy, Rain, and Hyvaa play tiebreakers to determine who gets the last seed.
that's match wins, not set wins what you describe
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On July 12 2013 02:12 robson1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:12 TeeTS wrote:
I find it funny, that people still disregard the abilities of Bomber and Maru. Maru was close to beat Soulkey last season and showed so far a stellar performance in this. Bomber showed amazing play this season. To say both of them have no chance against any player is just plain stupid. this.
Bomber always lets his fans down though.
He gets us all pumped up and excited, and then he loses >_>
Maru vs Supernoa was going to be a close match regardless. I ended up thinking Supernova would pull through, but Maru winning isn't a surprise either.
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BOMBER FUCK YEA! Ahead of the metagame! Prepared strats don't apply...
wins anyway!
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On July 12 2013 02:20 robson1 wrote:
If bomber looses in the Ro8 against hyvva. Hyvva should hire not one but two bodyguards because the entirety of Teamliquid will probably kill the guy on sight.
Lol that's so true. I am not a fan of Fantasy and I still want to beat him up after that series.
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On July 12 2013 03:00 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:39 Housemd wrote:On July 12 2013 01:53 Big J wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 lichter wrote:On July 12 2013 01:47 Big J wrote:
Btw, how are group standings decided?
Is it:
1. Match wins
2. set difference
3. set wins
4. direct duel
?
Asking because Liquipedia says First isn't through yet, which would mean it is not like I described and there is some weird tiebreaker way to still prevent him from advancing. Only set wins. If there are ties, they play again. Tiebreakers are Bo1, played after the last day of Ro16. Ah ok, so if First wins one game he goes on, because then in the worst case for him it's 1. First 5-2 2. hyvaa 5-4 3. Rain 4-3 If he loses however 2-0, it can be 1. hyvaa 5-3 2. First 4-2 2. Rain 4-3 or 4-4 and First and Rain play a tiebreaker. Right? No lol. By set wins, its like how many series you won against other people in the group. First is 2-0 at the moment and has hvyaa left. If he loses, he goes 2-1 and hyvaa goes 2-1. Then, if Rain beats Fantasy, it would be Rain 2-1 with Fantasy 0-3. Therefore, Fantasy is eliminated and Hyvaa, Rain, and First play tiebreakers to determine which two advance. Another example: First beats Hyvaa, and Fantasy beats Rain. This means that Fantasy is 1-2, Rain is 1-2, Hyvaa is 1-2, and First is 3-0. First is through to the Round of 8 while Fantasy, Rain, and Hyvaa play tiebreakers to determine who gets the last seed. that's match wins, not set wins what you describe
Yea sorry about that.
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On July 12 2013 03:18 painkilla wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:20 robson1 wrote:
If bomber looses in the Ro8 against hyvva. Hyvva should hire not one but two bodyguards because the entirety of Teamliquid will probably kill the guy on sight. Lol that's so true. I am not a fan of Fantasy and I still want to beat him up after that series.
He just knows to win ZvT without any effort needed. You get those pushes thrown at you on the ladder all day long. Still doesn't make it easier to indentify which one you're facing and defending them correctly. I can really feel with fantasy, but that's TvZ atm.
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On July 12 2013 03:00 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:39 Housemd wrote:On July 12 2013 01:53 Big J wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 lichter wrote:On July 12 2013 01:47 Big J wrote:
Btw, how are group standings decided?
Is it:
1. Match wins
2. set difference
3. set wins
4. direct duel
?
Asking because Liquipedia says First isn't through yet, which would mean it is not like I described and there is some weird tiebreaker way to still prevent him from advancing. Only set wins. If there are ties, they play again. Tiebreakers are Bo1, played after the last day of Ro16. Ah ok, so if First wins one game he goes on, because then in the worst case for him it's 1. First 5-2 2. hyvaa 5-4 3. Rain 4-3 If he loses however 2-0, it can be 1. hyvaa 5-3 2. First 4-2 2. Rain 4-3 or 4-4 and First and Rain play a tiebreaker. Right? No lol. By set wins, its like how many series you won against other people in the group. First is 2-0 at the moment and has hvyaa left. If he loses, he goes 2-1 and hyvaa goes 2-1. Then, if Rain beats Fantasy, it would be Rain 2-1 with Fantasy 0-3. Therefore, Fantasy is eliminated and Hyvaa, Rain, and First play tiebreakers to determine which two advance. Another example: First beats Hyvaa, and Fantasy beats Rain. This means that Fantasy is 1-2, Rain is 1-2, Hyvaa is 1-2, and First is 3-0. First is through to the Round of 8 while Fantasy, Rain, and Hyvaa play tiebreakers to determine who gets the last seed. that's match wins, not set wins what you describe
So, there's a potential SKT throw in Fantasy vs Rain, where since Hyvaa vs First is up first, and Hyvaa wins, then both Hyvaa and First will be on 2-1. Rain is on 1-1, Fantasy is 0-2, so if Fantasy wins, both Rain and Fantasy are out regardless. That means Fantasy will have no choice but to throw the last game to give Rain teh win, so Rain is on 2-1 and goes to playoff with a chance of progress. Fantasy may even get ordered by SKT to give the game to his teamate.
This is an absurd scenario due to the Round Robin format, and if this happens eyebrows will surely be raised.
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On July 12 2013 04:50 Lock0n wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 03:00 Big J wrote:On July 12 2013 02:39 Housemd wrote:On July 12 2013 01:53 Big J wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 lichter wrote:On July 12 2013 01:47 Big J wrote:
Btw, how are group standings decided?
Is it:
1. Match wins
2. set difference
3. set wins
4. direct duel
?
Asking because Liquipedia says First isn't through yet, which would mean it is not like I described and there is some weird tiebreaker way to still prevent him from advancing. Only set wins. If there are ties, they play again. Tiebreakers are Bo1, played after the last day of Ro16. Ah ok, so if First wins one game he goes on, because then in the worst case for him it's 1. First 5-2 2. hyvaa 5-4 3. Rain 4-3 If he loses however 2-0, it can be 1. hyvaa 5-3 2. First 4-2 2. Rain 4-3 or 4-4 and First and Rain play a tiebreaker. Right? No lol. By set wins, its like how many series you won against other people in the group. First is 2-0 at the moment and has hvyaa left. If he loses, he goes 2-1 and hyvaa goes 2-1. Then, if Rain beats Fantasy, it would be Rain 2-1 with Fantasy 0-3. Therefore, Fantasy is eliminated and Hyvaa, Rain, and First play tiebreakers to determine which two advance. Another example: First beats Hyvaa, and Fantasy beats Rain. This means that Fantasy is 1-2, Rain is 1-2, Hyvaa is 1-2, and First is 3-0. First is through to the Round of 8 while Fantasy, Rain, and Hyvaa play tiebreakers to determine who gets the last seed. that's match wins, not set wins what you describe So, there's a potential SKT throw in Fantasy vs Rain, where since Hyvaa vs First is up first, and Hyvaa wins, then both Hyvaa and First will be on 2-1. Rain is on 1-1, Fantasy is 0-2, so if Fantasy wins, both Rain and Fantasy are out regardless. That means Fantasy will have no choice but to throw the last game to give Rain teh win, so Rain is on 2-1 and goes to playoff with a chance of progress. Fantasy may even get ordered by SKT to give the game to his teamate. This is an absurd scenario due to the Round Robin format, and if this happens eyebrows will surely be raised.
which could have been avoided if Fantasy vs Rain was played first in the group.
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On July 12 2013 03:01 SniXSniPe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:12 robson1 wrote:On July 12 2013 02:12 TeeTS wrote:
I find it funny, that people still disregard the abilities of Bomber and Maru. Maru was close to beat Soulkey last season and showed so far a stellar performance in this. Bomber showed amazing play this season. To say both of them have no chance against any player is just plain stupid. this. Bomber always lets his fans down though. He gets us all pumped up and excited, and then he loses >_> Maru vs Supernoa was going to be a close match regardless. I ended up thinking Supernova would pull through, but Maru winning isn't a surprise either.
16 people have to all in the ro32, 8 more in the ro16, only 1 person can win a tournament, etc.. him "always letting his fans down" is no more than the flow of a tournament. Surely you don't expect him to make the finals of everything? Because that would be impractical.
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On July 12 2013 05:13 Zenbrez wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 03:01 SniXSniPe wrote:On July 12 2013 02:12 robson1 wrote:On July 12 2013 02:12 TeeTS wrote:
I find it funny, that people still disregard the abilities of Bomber and Maru. Maru was close to beat Soulkey last season and showed so far a stellar performance in this. Bomber showed amazing play this season. To say both of them have no chance against any player is just plain stupid. this. Bomber always lets his fans down though. He gets us all pumped up and excited, and then he loses >_> Maru vs Supernoa was going to be a close match regardless. I ended up thinking Supernova would pull through, but Maru winning isn't a surprise either. 16 people have to all in the ro32, 8 more in the ro16, only 1 person can win a tournament, etc.. him "always letting his fans down" is no more than the flow of a tournament. Surely you don't expect him to make the finals of everything? Because that would be impractical.
Yeah I see what you're saying. However, I think the Bomber curse is more along the lines of him playing far better than anyone expects him to (such as 2-0ing Flash after preparing for the wrong version of HotS TvT), and then later falling far short of the play people expect from him soon after, losing in some unspectacular stomp. It's not about merely losing at some point in a tournaments, it's more about him looking spectacular one match and then playing like crap the next match. Though you could definitely apply that to quite a few other players, I guess Bomber is the most infamous for it.
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On July 12 2013 04:50 Lock0n wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 03:00 Big J wrote:On July 12 2013 02:39 Housemd wrote:On July 12 2013 01:53 Big J wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 lichter wrote:On July 12 2013 01:47 Big J wrote:
Btw, how are group standings decided?
Is it:
1. Match wins
2. set difference
3. set wins
4. direct duel
?
Asking because Liquipedia says First isn't through yet, which would mean it is not like I described and there is some weird tiebreaker way to still prevent him from advancing. Only set wins. If there are ties, they play again. Tiebreakers are Bo1, played after the last day of Ro16. Ah ok, so if First wins one game he goes on, because then in the worst case for him it's 1. First 5-2 2. hyvaa 5-4 3. Rain 4-3 If he loses however 2-0, it can be 1. hyvaa 5-3 2. First 4-2 2. Rain 4-3 or 4-4 and First and Rain play a tiebreaker. Right? No lol. By set wins, its like how many series you won against other people in the group. First is 2-0 at the moment and has hvyaa left. If he loses, he goes 2-1 and hyvaa goes 2-1. Then, if Rain beats Fantasy, it would be Rain 2-1 with Fantasy 0-3. Therefore, Fantasy is eliminated and Hyvaa, Rain, and First play tiebreakers to determine which two advance. Another example: First beats Hyvaa, and Fantasy beats Rain. This means that Fantasy is 1-2, Rain is 1-2, Hyvaa is 1-2, and First is 3-0. First is through to the Round of 8 while Fantasy, Rain, and Hyvaa play tiebreakers to determine who gets the last seed. that's match wins, not set wins what you describe So, there's a potential SKT throw in Fantasy vs Rain, where since Hyvaa vs First is up first, and Hyvaa wins, then both Hyvaa and First will be on 2-1. Rain is on 1-1, Fantasy is 0-2, so if Fantasy wins, both Rain and Fantasy are out regardless. That means Fantasy will have no choice but to throw the last game to give Rain teh win, so Rain is on 2-1 and goes to playoff with a chance of progress. Fantasy may even get ordered by SKT to give the game to his teamate. This is an absurd scenario due to the Round Robin format, and if this happens eyebrows will surely be raised.
If he throws his career is over.
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On July 12 2013 05:21 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 05:13 Zenbrez wrote:On July 12 2013 03:01 SniXSniPe wrote:On July 12 2013 02:12 robson1 wrote:On July 12 2013 02:12 TeeTS wrote:
I find it funny, that people still disregard the abilities of Bomber and Maru. Maru was close to beat Soulkey last season and showed so far a stellar performance in this. Bomber showed amazing play this season. To say both of them have no chance against any player is just plain stupid. this. Bomber always lets his fans down though. He gets us all pumped up and excited, and then he loses >_> Maru vs Supernoa was going to be a close match regardless. I ended up thinking Supernova would pull through, but Maru winning isn't a surprise either. 16 people have to all in the ro32, 8 more in the ro16, only 1 person can win a tournament, etc.. him "always letting his fans down" is no more than the flow of a tournament. Surely you don't expect him to make the finals of everything? Because that would be impractical. Yeah I see what you're saying. However, I think the Bomber curse is more along the lines of him playing far better than anyone expects him to (such as 2-0ing Flash after preparing for the wrong version of HotS TvT), and then later falling far short of the play people expect from him soon after, losing in some unspectacular stomp. It's not about merely losing at some point in a tournaments, it's more about him looking spectacular one match and then playing like crap the next match. Though you could definitely apply that to quite a few other players, I guess Bomber is the most infamous for it.
yes exactly this. also Bomber hasn't one a major tournament in sc2 ever and has hardly been to any finals, i would consider that a letdown after continously showing best-player-in-the-world-level play in countless tournaments over the last like 2.5 years.
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On July 12 2013 05:28 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 04:50 Lock0n wrote:On July 12 2013 03:00 Big J wrote:On July 12 2013 02:39 Housemd wrote:On July 12 2013 01:53 Big J wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 lichter wrote:On July 12 2013 01:47 Big J wrote:
Btw, how are group standings decided?
Is it:
1. Match wins
2. set difference
3. set wins
4. direct duel
?
Asking because Liquipedia says First isn't through yet, which would mean it is not like I described and there is some weird tiebreaker way to still prevent him from advancing. Only set wins. If there are ties, they play again. Tiebreakers are Bo1, played after the last day of Ro16. Ah ok, so if First wins one game he goes on, because then in the worst case for him it's 1. First 5-2 2. hyvaa 5-4 3. Rain 4-3 If he loses however 2-0, it can be 1. hyvaa 5-3 2. First 4-2 2. Rain 4-3 or 4-4 and First and Rain play a tiebreaker. Right? No lol. By set wins, its like how many series you won against other people in the group. First is 2-0 at the moment and has hvyaa left. If he loses, he goes 2-1 and hyvaa goes 2-1. Then, if Rain beats Fantasy, it would be Rain 2-1 with Fantasy 0-3. Therefore, Fantasy is eliminated and Hyvaa, Rain, and First play tiebreakers to determine which two advance. Another example: First beats Hyvaa, and Fantasy beats Rain. This means that Fantasy is 1-2, Rain is 1-2, Hyvaa is 1-2, and First is 3-0. First is through to the Round of 8 while Fantasy, Rain, and Hyvaa play tiebreakers to determine who gets the last seed. that's match wins, not set wins what you describe So, there's a potential SKT throw in Fantasy vs Rain, where since Hyvaa vs First is up first, and Hyvaa wins, then both Hyvaa and First will be on 2-1. Rain is on 1-1, Fantasy is 0-2, so if Fantasy wins, both Rain and Fantasy are out regardless. That means Fantasy will have no choice but to throw the last game to give Rain teh win, so Rain is on 2-1 and goes to playoff with a chance of progress. Fantasy may even get ordered by SKT to give the game to his teamate. This is an absurd scenario due to the Round Robin format, and if this happens eyebrows will surely be raised. If he throws his career is over.
i'm sure he wouldn't make it too obvious
On July 12 2013 05:31 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 05:21 HolyArrow wrote:On July 12 2013 05:13 Zenbrez wrote:On July 12 2013 03:01 SniXSniPe wrote:On July 12 2013 02:12 robson1 wrote:On July 12 2013 02:12 TeeTS wrote:
I find it funny, that people still disregard the abilities of Bomber and Maru. Maru was close to beat Soulkey last season and showed so far a stellar performance in this. Bomber showed amazing play this season. To say both of them have no chance against any player is just plain stupid. this. Bomber always lets his fans down though. He gets us all pumped up and excited, and then he loses >_> Maru vs Supernoa was going to be a close match regardless. I ended up thinking Supernova would pull through, but Maru winning isn't a surprise either. 16 people have to all in the ro32, 8 more in the ro16, only 1 person can win a tournament, etc.. him "always letting his fans down" is no more than the flow of a tournament. Surely you don't expect him to make the finals of everything? Because that would be impractical. Yeah I see what you're saying. However, I think the Bomber curse is more along the lines of him playing far better than anyone expects him to (such as 2-0ing Flash after preparing for the wrong version of HotS TvT), and then later falling far short of the play people expect from him soon after, losing in some unspectacular stomp. It's not about merely losing at some point in a tournaments, it's more about him looking spectacular one match and then playing like crap the next match. Though you could definitely apply that to quite a few other players, I guess Bomber is the most infamous for it. yes exactly this. also Bomber hasn't one a major tournament in sc2 ever and has hardly been to any finals, i would consider that a letdown after continously showing best-player-in-the-world-level play in countless tournaments over the last like 2.5 years.
wait what
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On July 12 2013 05:28 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 04:50 Lock0n wrote:On July 12 2013 03:00 Big J wrote:On July 12 2013 02:39 Housemd wrote:On July 12 2013 01:53 Big J wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 lichter wrote:On July 12 2013 01:47 Big J wrote:
Btw, how are group standings decided?
Is it:
1. Match wins
2. set difference
3. set wins
4. direct duel
?
Asking because Liquipedia says First isn't through yet, which would mean it is not like I described and there is some weird tiebreaker way to still prevent him from advancing. Only set wins. If there are ties, they play again. Tiebreakers are Bo1, played after the last day of Ro16. Ah ok, so if First wins one game he goes on, because then in the worst case for him it's 1. First 5-2 2. hyvaa 5-4 3. Rain 4-3 If he loses however 2-0, it can be 1. hyvaa 5-3 2. First 4-2 2. Rain 4-3 or 4-4 and First and Rain play a tiebreaker. Right? No lol. By set wins, its like how many series you won against other people in the group. First is 2-0 at the moment and has hvyaa left. If he loses, he goes 2-1 and hyvaa goes 2-1. Then, if Rain beats Fantasy, it would be Rain 2-1 with Fantasy 0-3. Therefore, Fantasy is eliminated and Hyvaa, Rain, and First play tiebreakers to determine which two advance. Another example: First beats Hyvaa, and Fantasy beats Rain. This means that Fantasy is 1-2, Rain is 1-2, Hyvaa is 1-2, and First is 3-0. First is through to the Round of 8 while Fantasy, Rain, and Hyvaa play tiebreakers to determine who gets the last seed. that's match wins, not set wins what you describe So, there's a potential SKT throw in Fantasy vs Rain, where since Hyvaa vs First is up first, and Hyvaa wins, then both Hyvaa and First will be on 2-1. Rain is on 1-1, Fantasy is 0-2, so if Fantasy wins, both Rain and Fantasy are out regardless. That means Fantasy will have no choice but to throw the last game to give Rain teh win, so Rain is on 2-1 and goes to playoff with a chance of progress. Fantasy may even get ordered by SKT to give the game to his teamate. This is an absurd scenario due to the Round Robin format, and if this happens eyebrows will surely be raised. If he throws his career is over.
How do ppl know that he throws if he throws? He doesn't need to try very hard to lose to Rain.
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On July 12 2013 05:31 Schelim wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 05:21 HolyArrow wrote:On July 12 2013 05:13 Zenbrez wrote:On July 12 2013 03:01 SniXSniPe wrote:On July 12 2013 02:12 robson1 wrote:On July 12 2013 02:12 TeeTS wrote:
I find it funny, that people still disregard the abilities of Bomber and Maru. Maru was close to beat Soulkey last season and showed so far a stellar performance in this. Bomber showed amazing play this season. To say both of them have no chance against any player is just plain stupid. this. Bomber always lets his fans down though. He gets us all pumped up and excited, and then he loses >_> Maru vs Supernoa was going to be a close match regardless. I ended up thinking Supernova would pull through, but Maru winning isn't a surprise either. 16 people have to all in the ro32, 8 more in the ro16, only 1 person can win a tournament, etc.. him "always letting his fans down" is no more than the flow of a tournament. Surely you don't expect him to make the finals of everything? Because that would be impractical. Yeah I see what you're saying. However, I think the Bomber curse is more along the lines of him playing far better than anyone expects him to (such as 2-0ing Flash after preparing for the wrong version of HotS TvT), and then later falling far short of the play people expect from him soon after, losing in some unspectacular stomp. It's not about merely losing at some point in a tournaments, it's more about him looking spectacular one match and then playing like crap the next match. Though you could definitely apply that to quite a few other players, I guess Bomber is the most infamous for it. yes exactly this. also Bomber hasn't one a major tournament in sc2 ever and has hardly been to any finals, i would consider that a letdown after continously showing best-player-in-the-world-level play in countless tournaments over the last like 2.5 years.
Bomber only made some sort of resurgence toward the end of WoL. He didn't play that well throughout most of 2012.
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its not hard to throw the game against rain
cause rain is the better player, to be honest fantasy is a big underdog to rain - so if he just goes into the game with the mindset that he will lose, he will lose.
just no preparing and treating it like a ladder game, should suffice to lose.
rain is the a victim too, cause his chances are high that he would win a serious match against fantasy, but now everyone will think fantasy threw the game, it doiesnt matter how good rain plays
haha
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On July 12 2013 05:41 phil.ipp wrote:
its not hard to throw the game against rain
cause rain is the better player, to be honest fantasy is a big underdog to rain - so if he just goes into the game with the mindset that he will lose, he will lose.
just no preparing and treating it like a ladder game, should suffice to lose.
rain is the a victim too, cause his chances are high that he would win a serious match against fantasy, but now everyone will think fantasy threw the game, it doiesnt matter how good rain plays
haha
Good thing two weeks later nobody will care about the details of the ro16 groups.
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On July 12 2013 05:37 painkilla wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 05:28 Big J wrote:On July 12 2013 04:50 Lock0n wrote:On July 12 2013 03:00 Big J wrote:On July 12 2013 02:39 Housemd wrote:On July 12 2013 01:53 Big J wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 lichter wrote:On July 12 2013 01:47 Big J wrote:
Btw, how are group standings decided?
Is it:
1. Match wins
2. set difference
3. set wins
4. direct duel
?
Asking because Liquipedia says First isn't through yet, which would mean it is not like I described and there is some weird tiebreaker way to still prevent him from advancing. Only set wins. If there are ties, they play again. Tiebreakers are Bo1, played after the last day of Ro16. Ah ok, so if First wins one game he goes on, because then in the worst case for him it's 1. First 5-2 2. hyvaa 5-4 3. Rain 4-3 If he loses however 2-0, it can be 1. hyvaa 5-3 2. First 4-2 2. Rain 4-3 or 4-4 and First and Rain play a tiebreaker. Right? No lol. By set wins, its like how many series you won against other people in the group. First is 2-0 at the moment and has hvyaa left. If he loses, he goes 2-1 and hyvaa goes 2-1. Then, if Rain beats Fantasy, it would be Rain 2-1 with Fantasy 0-3. Therefore, Fantasy is eliminated and Hyvaa, Rain, and First play tiebreakers to determine which two advance. Another example: First beats Hyvaa, and Fantasy beats Rain. This means that Fantasy is 1-2, Rain is 1-2, Hyvaa is 1-2, and First is 3-0. First is through to the Round of 8 while Fantasy, Rain, and Hyvaa play tiebreakers to determine who gets the last seed. that's match wins, not set wins what you describe So, there's a potential SKT throw in Fantasy vs Rain, where since Hyvaa vs First is up first, and Hyvaa wins, then both Hyvaa and First will be on 2-1. Rain is on 1-1, Fantasy is 0-2, so if Fantasy wins, both Rain and Fantasy are out regardless. That means Fantasy will have no choice but to throw the last game to give Rain teh win, so Rain is on 2-1 and goes to playoff with a chance of progress. Fantasy may even get ordered by SKT to give the game to his teamate. This is an absurd scenario due to the Round Robin format, and if this happens eyebrows will surely be raised. If he throws his career is over. How do ppl know that he throws if he throws? He doesn't need to try very hard to lose to Rain.
Fantasy can only hope First doesn't lose, because his chances to beat Rain are slim anyway. In that case the internet will do what the internet does and there will be hurt fanboys and trolls that will jump on this opportunity (as they already come up before it happens). And OSL will get a few hits too if they really don't use map score in case of tie breakers.
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are the VOD's up yet? I can't seem to find them on twitch.
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I sincerily doubt Fantasy would throw the match. Him, Rain, Boxer, everyone else related have too much to lose if it were to be found out. And the fact that Rain would likely beat Fantasy anyway, I don't think it's unreasonable to think he loses anyway.
are the VOD's up yet? I can't seem to find them on twitch.
They'll prob be up by tonight I think
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