EPTDisappointed about SuperNova though!
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
Disappointed about SuperNova though! | ||
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
On July 12 2013 00:30 painkilla wrote: Can't we stop making excuses for Flash? Innovation wasn't in early WoL either I am not making an excuse just stating my opinion. I also think Innovation's tvt will be tested by players like bomber soon as well. Hellbat drops have allowed players with strong mechanics to edge out wins with their overall ease of execution, but that wont be the case anymore. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
On July 11 2013 23:50 Neemi wrote: Why would they? If he goes up 2-0 but then proceeds to lose 3 games (1 to force tie-breakers, 2 during the tie-breakers) then he's 2-3 and deserves to not pass over people who are either 3-2 or 4-1. It's like saying a bo5 is unfairly lost if one player goes up 2-0 but then loses 2-3. The advantages of this format are more preparation time (like the brackets) and at least you don't have to play the same person twice, which prevents one bad matchup from ruining your entire tournament. Also, we get more games :D cut the more games as they sacrificed the Ro32 for it ^.^ . And I would say if your TvT is bad you have a problem if something like group B is drawn. But it is just one season to judge the system for sc2, so hard to come to a conclusion which system is better from that for that game specifically. But the GSL system is a tough opponent as it seems to fit to sc2 perfectly. We will see its personal preference anyway, but so far all my worries about the OSL came true to some extend. But its not over and maybe I get surprised ! | ||
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painkilla
United States695 Posts
On July 12 2013 00:34 stratmatt wrote: I am not making an excuse just stating my opinion. I also think Innovation's tvt will be tested by players like bomber soon as well. Hellbat drops have allowed players with strong mechanics to edge out wins with their overall ease of execution, but that wont be the case anymore. Innovation was a beast in Wol TvT as well (Flash was not) and I don't see Bomber being a problem for him. But the next match isn't important so it will be hard to tell. Bomber might not want to show his best strats. | ||
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ballasdontcry
Canada595 Posts
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 12 2013 00:49 ballasdontcry wrote: hah, the bookies are idiots to put bomber at +284 (~26%). no fuckin way bomber was that big of an underdog to flash. if there was one matchup that flash was weakest right now it's probably tvt. i can see flash getting -300 if he was playing a tvz though... the bookies don't make the numbers, it's the people who are betting afaik? | ||
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
On July 12 2013 00:52 opterown wrote: the bookies don't make the numbers, it's the people who are betting afaik? Yeah, the odds are based on the bets and the amounts betted (This part is also important, it's not about just number of bets, it's also about the amounts the people have bet in total). They change the numbers so they ensure being able to handle transactions fees, taxes, their own profit, etc, regardless of outcome. The house always wins. ;o | ||
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robson1
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:10 robson1 wrote: Bomber going to get slaughtered in the Ro8 =(. Still amazing play. He can beat First or Maru. Would probably lose 3-1/3-0 to Soulkey. | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:11 VayneAuthority wrote: yup you could tell fantasy was in a slump, knew he was gonna lose to hyvaa. surprised about supernova. Fantasy's losses had nothing to do with slumping. Game 3 was a build order loss and Game 2 was a lack of playing against enough cheeses to know to depot around the outside of his base. On July 12 2013 01:12 Fionn wrote: He can beat First or Maru. Would probably lose 3-1/3-0 to Soulkey. I think after First's results recently in HotS that is debatable somewhat. | ||
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Marshall_D
United States196 Posts
On July 12 2013 00:18 sharkie wrote: Flash's era had been over before the transition to sc2. thats bullshit. you're saying that because he lost a semis to fantasy in the last bw tournament? their semis before that was a very tight 3-2 as well. Flash will still be a top tier player, he just needs to learn what build orders are out there. When that happens nobody will outplay flash ever. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:23 Marshall_D wrote: thats bullshit. you're saying that because he lost a semis to fantasy in the last bw tournament? their semis before that was a very tight 3-2 as well. Flash will still be a top tier player, he just needs to learn what build orders are out there. When that happens nobody will outplay flash ever. honestly if anything considering what we hear about the time he puts in, he probably knows the build orders better than anyone . especially since hots is a new game | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Seriously doubt he's going to put active effort into coming up with ways to deny his team mate from advancing ;;; Not saying he's gonna throw it, but he's probably not gonna do rain specific prep if he's already out. | ||
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habeck
1120 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:12 Fionn wrote: He can beat First or Maru. Would probably lose 3-1/3-0 to Soulkey. Thank you for cursing Maru.... | ||
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painkilla
United States695 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
Is it: 1. Match wins 2. set difference 3. set wins 4. direct duel ? Asking because Liquipedia says First isn't through yet, which would mean it is not like I described and there is some weird tiebreaker way to still prevent him from advancing. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:38 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Seriously doubt he's going to put active effort into coming up with ways to deny his team mate from advancing ;;; Not saying he's gonna throw it, but he's probably not gonna do rain specific prep if he's already out. Yeah well he definitely won't put in the extra effort with PL playoffs and all, but he definitely won't give Rain the win if Rain doesn't deserve it. | ||
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painkilla
United States695 Posts
On July 12 2013 01:47 Big J wrote: Btw, how are group standings decided? Is it: 1. Match wins 2. set difference 3. set wins 4. direct duel ? Asking because Liquipedia says First isn't through yet, which would mean it is not like I described and there is some weird tiebreaker way to still prevent him from advancing. BO1s similar to up and down will be used. | ||
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