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Hammer442
Australia749 Posts
On July 11 2013 23:27 phil.ipp wrote: why was it bomber vs flash and not bomber vs innovation ... why did a winner of the first match play against a loser in all the other groups it was the other way around?!? Round robin format, you play everyone in your group. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On July 11 2013 23:27 phil.ipp wrote: why was it bomber vs flash and not bomber vs innovation ... why did a winner of the first match play against a loser in all the other groups it was the other way around?!? Round robin with pre-determined order. Talking about that, why are Rain and Fantasy playing eachother last; should´nt tournaments avoid those situations (Teamkill in te last round). | ||
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painkilla
United States695 Posts
On July 11 2013 23:12 Arceus wrote: I figure the biggest flamebait jerks are those who try to be sarcastic and idiotically go "kespaaaa" or "esffff" everytime a KeSPA loses. right? Because mocking KeSPA results is the cool things these LR polices love to do. Oh and meanwhile they act all serious when the reverse happens. Hypocrite. I know I think Kespa >>>>>>> esf when it comes to flaimbaiting/ being obnoxious. | ||
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Neemi
Netherlands656 Posts
On July 11 2013 23:27 phil.ipp wrote: why was it bomber vs flash and not bomber vs innovation ... why did a winner of the first match play against a loser in all the other groups it was the other way around?!? The order was predetermined, the other groups being different is dumb luck. EDIT: well at least this guy will never forget haha | ||
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phil.ipp
Austria1067 Posts
On July 11 2013 23:30 Xoronius wrote: Round robin with pre-determined order. Talking about that, why are Rain and Fantasy playing eachother last; should´nt tournaments avoid those situations (Teamkill in te last round). omfg really great job OSL, fantasy will give his absolut best i bet ! i guess people talked about that alot but isnt OSL supposed to be this organisation that has 10 years torunament experience? and this format is the best they came up with haha | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 11 2013 23:33 phil.ipp wrote: omfg really great job OSL, fantasy will give his absolut best i bet ! If he is a professional then he should. | ||
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phil.ipp
Austria1067 Posts
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Neemi
Netherlands656 Posts
On July 11 2013 23:31 painkilla wrote: I think Kespa >>>>>>> esf when it comes to flaimbaiting/ being obnoxious. It started with a couple of people who just wanted to see the Kespa-side do well after the switch, alongside some obnoxious people who hated every single non-Kespa player, then there was the backlash which was just as obnoxious at some point and then it died down a little. Let's keep it that way and live happily ever after, as most of us like some Kespa & non-Kespa players and dislike some Kespa & non-Kespa players. And honestly, it doesn't matter if one is an "anti-kespa-fanboy" or an "esf-fanboy". Both are pretty annoying in their own way. | ||
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painkilla
United States695 Posts
On July 11 2013 23:36 phil.ipp wrote: yeah of course haha, he has NO SHOT at the group but he will train REEEEAALLLLYYY hard to beat rain .. cause he is a professionel - and professionells play for money right? and he can still win so much money .. ohh wait He does have a shot if First beat hyvaaa. But I agree that the format is shitty and people will talk about it a lot if Fisrt end up not advancing. | ||
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Gorribal
Canada186 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On July 11 2013 23:40 Neemi wrote: It started with a couple of people who just wanted to see the Kespa-side do well after the switch, alongside some obnoxious people who hated every single non-Kespa player, then there was the backlash which was just as obnoxious at some point and then it died down a little. Let's keep it that way and live happily ever after, as most of us like some Kespa & non-Kespa players and dislike some Kespa & non-Kespa players. And honestly, it doesn't matter if one is an "anti-kespa-fanboy" or an "esf-fanboy". Both are pretty annoying in their own way. It was absolutely terrible from the ""kespa fanboy""" side for quite some time, LR threads were just terrible. Wasn't just a couple, was like a swarm. People get annoyed and retaliated, which is normal and I don't think it was just as bad like you suggest. Nowadays it seems to have settled down quite well. Of course there's a few baiters around, but it's much better. | ||
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Neemi
Netherlands656 Posts
On July 11 2013 23:40 painkilla wrote: He does have a shot if First beat hyvaaa. But I agree that the format is shitty and people will talk about it a lot if Fisrt end up not advancing. Why would they? If he goes up 2-0 but then proceeds to lose 3 games (1 to force tie-breakers, 2 during the tie-breakers) then he's 2-3 and deserves to not pass over people who are either 3-2 or 4-1. It's like saying a bo5 is unfairly lost if one player goes up 2-0 but then loses 2-3. The advantages of this format are more preparation time (like the brackets) and at least you don't have to play the same person twice, which prevents one bad matchup from ruining your entire tournament. Also, we get more games :D | ||
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Neemi
Netherlands656 Posts
On July 11 2013 23:46 AxionSteel wrote: It was absolutely terrible from the ""kespa fanboy""" side for quite some time, LR threads were just terrible. Wasn't just a couple, was like a swarm. People get annoyed and retaliated, which is normal and I don't think it was just as bad like you suggest. Nowadays it seems to have settled down quite well. Of course there's a few baiters around, but it's much better. Yes, I agree, I should've been a little more clear: Pro-Kespa obnoxiousness was present for a much longer time, but at it's peak the Anti-Kespa obnoxiousness (which died down WAY faster, for which I am thankful) was just as annoying. But yes, let us rejoice that we can now post in LR threads again without this nonsense. | ||
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Baroninthetree
United States473 Posts
On July 11 2013 23:33 phil.ipp wrote: omfg really great job OSL, fantasy will give his absolut best i bet ! i guess people talked about that alot but isnt OSL supposed to be this organisation that has 10 years torunament experience? and this format is the best they came up with haha Then what if I tell you, the additional matches will be Bo1? | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
Oh well. That was incredibly awful play. Also, Tasteless with comical gold casting "Evil win!" NEver laughed so hard since the last season's WCS EU casting | ||
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sharkie
Austria18413 Posts
On July 11 2013 19:58 Azera wrote: Is this the start of a slump or does Flash just have to get used to the Razer gear? Flash's era had been over before the transition to sc2. | ||
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Swisslink
2953 Posts
On July 11 2013 23:50 Neemi wrote: Why would they? If he goes up 2-0 but then proceeds to lose 3 games (1 to force tie-breakers, 2 during the tie-breakers) then he's 2-3 and deserves to not pass over people who are either 3-2 or 4-1. It's like saying a bo5 is unfairly lost if one player goes up 2-0 but then loses 2-3. The advantages of this format are more preparation time (like the brackets) and at least you don't have to play the same person twice, which prevents one bad matchup from ruining your entire tournament. Also, we get more games :D It's still pretty weird to set a SKT vs SKT match for the last day, imo. But I don't expect First to lose anyway, he just looked insanely strong this tournament so far (Beside Innovation probably the best I've seen). | ||
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
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painkilla
United States695 Posts
On July 12 2013 00:20 stratmatt wrote: Flash just doesnt have the sc2 tvt experience bomber has. Tvt for a long time relied heavily on army comp and build order counters. Flash just didnt play when this type of tvt was the norm in wol and now with hots and the hellbat nerf coming, old school strats are making a comeback. Bomber was among the very best tvt in early wol so I can easily see why flash got SMASHED. Can't we stop making excuses for Flash? Innovation wasn't in early WoL either | ||
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MiQ
Canada312 Posts
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