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Hammer442
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia749 Posts
July 11 2013 14:30 GMT
#1861
On July 11 2013 23:27 phil.ipp wrote:
why was it bomber vs flash and not bomber vs innovation ...

why did a winner of the first match play against a loser

in all the other groups it was the other way around?!?

Round robin format, you play everyone in your group.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
July 11 2013 14:30 GMT
#1862
On July 11 2013 23:27 phil.ipp wrote:
why was it bomber vs flash and not bomber vs innovation ...

why did a winner of the first match play against a loser

in all the other groups it was the other way around?!?


Round robin with pre-determined order. Talking about that, why are Rain and Fantasy playing eachother last; should´nt tournaments avoid those situations (Teamkill in te last round).
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
July 11 2013 14:31 GMT
#1863
On July 11 2013 23:12 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 22:46 opterown wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:44 yawnoC wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:28 opterown wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:27 lichter wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:23 opterown wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:59 Scarecrow wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:58 govie wrote:
ESF prevales come on kespalovers.. were is ur hero now?

According to opterown and co. you ppl don't exist

they don't, they're just anti-kespa-fanboy, it's different


There are idiots on both sides yo

idiots exist but there are hardly any 'esf fans' which is my assertion
That would mean there are no Kespa fans also right?

a lot of 'kespa fans' legitimately like kespa or so they claim. of course there are a few who do it just to flamebait.

I figure the biggest flamebait jerks are those who try to be sarcastic and idiotically go "kespaaaa" or "esffff" everytime a KeSPA loses. right? Because mocking KeSPA results is the cool things these LR polices love to do.
Oh and meanwhile they act all serious when the reverse happens. Hypocrite. I know


I think Kespa >>>>>>> esf when it comes to flaimbaiting/ being obnoxious.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 14:32:19
July 11 2013 14:31 GMT
#1864
On July 11 2013 23:27 phil.ipp wrote:
why was it bomber vs flash and not bomber vs innovation ...

why did a winner of the first match play against a loser

in all the other groups it was the other way around?!?


The order was predetermined, the other groups being different is dumb luck.

EDIT: well at least this guy will never forget haha
Cute
phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 14:35:22
July 11 2013 14:33 GMT
#1865
On July 11 2013 23:30 Xoronius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 23:27 phil.ipp wrote:
why was it bomber vs flash and not bomber vs innovation ...

why did a winner of the first match play against a loser

in all the other groups it was the other way around?!?


Round robin with pre-determined order. Talking about that, why are Rain and Fantasy playing eachother last; should´nt tournaments avoid those situations (Teamkill in te last round).


omfg really great job OSL, fantasy will give his absolut best i bet !

i guess people talked about that alot but isnt OSL supposed to be this organisation that has 10 years torunament experience?

and this format is the best they came up with haha
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 11 2013 14:34 GMT
#1866
On July 11 2013 23:33 phil.ipp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 23:30 Xoronius wrote:
On July 11 2013 23:27 phil.ipp wrote:
why was it bomber vs flash and not bomber vs innovation ...

why did a winner of the first match play against a loser

in all the other groups it was the other way around?!?


Round robin with pre-determined order. Talking about that, why are Rain and Fantasy playing eachother last; should´nt tournaments avoid those situations (Teamkill in te last round).


omfg really great job OSL, fantasy will give his absolut best i bet !


If he is a professional then he should.
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
July 11 2013 14:36 GMT
#1867
yeah of course haha, he has NO SHOT at the group but he will train REEEEAALLLLYYY hard to beat rain .. cause he is a professionel - and professionells play for money right? and he can still win so much money .. ohh wait
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
July 11 2013 14:40 GMT
#1868
On July 11 2013 23:31 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 23:12 Arceus wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:46 opterown wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:44 yawnoC wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:28 opterown wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:27 lichter wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:23 opterown wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:59 Scarecrow wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:58 govie wrote:
ESF prevales come on kespalovers.. were is ur hero now?

According to opterown and co. you ppl don't exist

they don't, they're just anti-kespa-fanboy, it's different


There are idiots on both sides yo

idiots exist but there are hardly any 'esf fans' which is my assertion
That would mean there are no Kespa fans also right?

a lot of 'kespa fans' legitimately like kespa or so they claim. of course there are a few who do it just to flamebait.

I figure the biggest flamebait jerks are those who try to be sarcastic and idiotically go "kespaaaa" or "esffff" everytime a KeSPA loses. right? Because mocking KeSPA results is the cool things these LR polices love to do.
Oh and meanwhile they act all serious when the reverse happens. Hypocrite. I know


I think Kespa >>>>>>> esf when it comes to flaimbaiting/ being obnoxious.


It started with a couple of people who just wanted to see the Kespa-side do well after the switch, alongside some obnoxious people who hated every single non-Kespa player, then there was the backlash which was just as obnoxious at some point and then it died down a little. Let's keep it that way and live happily ever after, as most of us like some Kespa & non-Kespa players and dislike some Kespa & non-Kespa players.

And honestly, it doesn't matter if one is an "anti-kespa-fanboy" or an "esf-fanboy". Both are pretty annoying in their own way.
Cute
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
July 11 2013 14:40 GMT
#1869
On July 11 2013 23:36 phil.ipp wrote:
yeah of course haha, he has NO SHOT at the group but he will train REEEEAALLLLYYY hard to beat rain .. cause he is a professionel - and professionells play for money right? and he can still win so much money .. ohh wait


He does have a shot if First beat hyvaaa. But I agree that the format is shitty and people will talk about it a lot if Fisrt end up not advancing.
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
Gorribal
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Canada186 Posts
July 11 2013 14:40 GMT
#1870
My prediction: Bomber to reach the finals and First to win it all as the next LG-IM Legend of the Fall!
"PartinG keeps touching us and groping us (laughs)." - Rain
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 14:47:26
July 11 2013 14:46 GMT
#1871
On July 11 2013 23:40 Neemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 23:31 painkilla wrote:
On July 11 2013 23:12 Arceus wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:46 opterown wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:44 yawnoC wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:28 opterown wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:27 lichter wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:23 opterown wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:59 Scarecrow wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:58 govie wrote:
ESF prevales come on kespalovers.. were is ur hero now?

According to opterown and co. you ppl don't exist

they don't, they're just anti-kespa-fanboy, it's different


There are idiots on both sides yo

idiots exist but there are hardly any 'esf fans' which is my assertion
That would mean there are no Kespa fans also right?

a lot of 'kespa fans' legitimately like kespa or so they claim. of course there are a few who do it just to flamebait.

I figure the biggest flamebait jerks are those who try to be sarcastic and idiotically go "kespaaaa" or "esffff" everytime a KeSPA loses. right? Because mocking KeSPA results is the cool things these LR polices love to do.
Oh and meanwhile they act all serious when the reverse happens. Hypocrite. I know


I think Kespa >>>>>>> esf when it comes to flaimbaiting/ being obnoxious.


It started with a couple of people who just wanted to see the Kespa-side do well after the switch, alongside some obnoxious people who hated every single non-Kespa player, then there was the backlash which was just as obnoxious at some point and then it died down a little. Let's keep it that way and live happily ever after, as most of us like some Kespa & non-Kespa players and dislike some Kespa & non-Kespa players.

And honestly, it doesn't matter if one is an "anti-kespa-fanboy" or an "esf-fanboy". Both are pretty annoying in their own way.

It was absolutely terrible from the ""kespa fanboy""" side for quite some time, LR threads were just terrible. Wasn't just a couple, was like a swarm. People get annoyed and retaliated, which is normal and I don't think it was just as bad like you suggest. Nowadays it seems to have settled down quite well. Of course there's a few baiters around, but it's much better.
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
July 11 2013 14:50 GMT
#1872
On July 11 2013 23:40 painkilla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 23:36 phil.ipp wrote:
yeah of course haha, he has NO SHOT at the group but he will train REEEEAALLLLYYY hard to beat rain .. cause he is a professionel - and professionells play for money right? and he can still win so much money .. ohh wait


He does have a shot if First beat hyvaaa. But I agree that the format is shitty and people will talk about it a lot if Fisrt end up not advancing.


Why would they? If he goes up 2-0 but then proceeds to lose 3 games (1 to force tie-breakers, 2 during the tie-breakers) then he's 2-3 and deserves to not pass over people who are either 3-2 or 4-1. It's like saying a bo5 is unfairly lost if one player goes up 2-0 but then loses 2-3.

The advantages of this format are more preparation time (like the brackets) and at least you don't have to play the same person twice, which prevents one bad matchup from ruining your entire tournament. Also, we get more games :D
Cute
Neemi
Profile Joined August 2012
Netherlands656 Posts
July 11 2013 14:55 GMT
#1873
On July 11 2013 23:46 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 23:40 Neemi wrote:
On July 11 2013 23:31 painkilla wrote:
On July 11 2013 23:12 Arceus wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:46 opterown wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:44 yawnoC wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:28 opterown wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:27 lichter wrote:
On July 11 2013 22:23 opterown wrote:
On July 11 2013 19:59 Scarecrow wrote:
[quote]
According to opterown and co. you ppl don't exist

they don't, they're just anti-kespa-fanboy, it's different


There are idiots on both sides yo

idiots exist but there are hardly any 'esf fans' which is my assertion
That would mean there are no Kespa fans also right?

a lot of 'kespa fans' legitimately like kespa or so they claim. of course there are a few who do it just to flamebait.

I figure the biggest flamebait jerks are those who try to be sarcastic and idiotically go "kespaaaa" or "esffff" everytime a KeSPA loses. right? Because mocking KeSPA results is the cool things these LR polices love to do.
Oh and meanwhile they act all serious when the reverse happens. Hypocrite. I know


I think Kespa >>>>>>> esf when it comes to flaimbaiting/ being obnoxious.


It started with a couple of people who just wanted to see the Kespa-side do well after the switch, alongside some obnoxious people who hated every single non-Kespa player, then there was the backlash which was just as obnoxious at some point and then it died down a little. Let's keep it that way and live happily ever after, as most of us like some Kespa & non-Kespa players and dislike some Kespa & non-Kespa players.

And honestly, it doesn't matter if one is an "anti-kespa-fanboy" or an "esf-fanboy". Both are pretty annoying in their own way.

It was absolutely terrible from the ""kespa fanboy""" side for quite some time, LR threads were just terrible. Wasn't just a couple, was like a swarm. People get annoyed and retaliated, which is normal and I don't think it was just as bad like you suggest. Nowadays it seems to have settled down quite well. Of course there's a few baiters around, but it's much better.


Yes, I agree, I should've been a little more clear: Pro-Kespa obnoxiousness was present for a much longer time, but at it's peak the Anti-Kespa obnoxiousness (which died down WAY faster, for which I am thankful) was just as annoying.

But yes, let us rejoice that we can now post in LR threads again without this nonsense.
Cute
Baroninthetree
Profile Joined August 2012
United States473 Posts
July 11 2013 15:03 GMT
#1874
On July 11 2013 23:33 phil.ipp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 23:30 Xoronius wrote:
On July 11 2013 23:27 phil.ipp wrote:
why was it bomber vs flash and not bomber vs innovation ...

why did a winner of the first match play against a loser

in all the other groups it was the other way around?!?


Round robin with pre-determined order. Talking about that, why are Rain and Fantasy playing eachother last; should´nt tournaments avoid those situations (Teamkill in te last round).


omfg really great job OSL, fantasy will give his absolut best i bet !

i guess people talked about that alot but isnt OSL supposed to be this organisation that has 10 years torunament experience?

and this format is the best they came up with haha

Then what if I tell you, the additional matches will be Bo1?
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
July 11 2013 15:15 GMT
#1875
Flash doesnt deserve to be in ro8.
Oh well. That was incredibly awful play.

Also, Tasteless with comical gold casting
"Evil win!"
NEver laughed so hard since the last season's WCS EU casting
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18713 Posts
July 11 2013 15:18 GMT
#1876
On July 11 2013 19:58 Azera wrote:
Is this the start of a slump or does Flash just have to get used to the Razer gear?


Flash's era had been over before the transition to sc2.
Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2956 Posts
July 11 2013 15:19 GMT
#1877
On July 11 2013 23:50 Neemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2013 23:40 painkilla wrote:
On July 11 2013 23:36 phil.ipp wrote:
yeah of course haha, he has NO SHOT at the group but he will train REEEEAALLLLYYY hard to beat rain .. cause he is a professionel - and professionells play for money right? and he can still win so much money .. ohh wait


He does have a shot if First beat hyvaaa. But I agree that the format is shitty and people will talk about it a lot if Fisrt end up not advancing.


Why would they? If he goes up 2-0 but then proceeds to lose 3 games (1 to force tie-breakers, 2 during the tie-breakers) then he's 2-3 and deserves to not pass over people who are either 3-2 or 4-1. It's like saying a bo5 is unfairly lost if one player goes up 2-0 but then loses 2-3.

The advantages of this format are more preparation time (like the brackets) and at least you don't have to play the same person twice, which prevents one bad matchup from ruining your entire tournament. Also, we get more games :D


It's still pretty weird to set a SKT vs SKT match for the last day, imo. But I don't expect First to lose anyway, he just looked insanely strong this tournament so far (Beside Innovation probably the best I've seen).
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
July 11 2013 15:20 GMT
#1878
Flash just doesnt have the sc2 tvt experience bomber has. Tvt for a long time relied heavily on army comp and build order counters. Flash just didnt play when this type of tvt was the norm in wol and now with hots and the hellbat nerf coming, old school strats are making a comeback. Bomber was among the very best tvt in early wol so I can easily see why flash got SMASHED.
painkilla
Profile Joined June 2013
United States695 Posts
July 11 2013 15:30 GMT
#1879
On July 12 2013 00:20 stratmatt wrote:
Flash just doesnt have the sc2 tvt experience bomber has. Tvt for a long time relied heavily on army comp and build order counters. Flash just didnt play when this type of tvt was the norm in wol and now with hots and the hellbat nerf coming, old school strats are making a comeback. Bomber was among the very best tvt in early wol so I can easily see why flash got SMASHED.

Can't we stop making excuses for Flash? Innovation wasn't in early WoL either
Supernova | TY | Polt | Innovation | forGG | Lucifron | Happy
MiQ
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada312 Posts
July 11 2013 15:30 GMT
#1880
Goddamnit!.. Flash & Fantasy breaking my nerdy heart too often these days
Tons of damage
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