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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 21 2013 02:48 GMT
#2481
On April 21 2013 11:44 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:42 sitromit wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:37 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Totalbiscuit @Totalbiscuit 5m

Well at least our guys will get to sleep after this, CranK is hallucinating IRL rather than ingame after 30 hours awake.

Everyone still involved must be exhausted.

Ko Seok Hyun @QuanticHyuN 24m

아...멘붕.........지금까지 안자고 했는데 자기들 실수라고 하지말래 아 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ 자러 가야지....

"Ahh... mentally broken.... I was sitting here all this time and didn't tell me it was a mistake *crying face* Lets go to sleep."
Poor HyuN


Poor Hyun... Where is Quantic though in all of this? What kind of team are they that they have no idea which qualifier their star player is supposed to play in? Aren't they the ones who should have signed him up and set him up for wherever he needs to play?


Hyun could have read the registration rules as well, it's even the first one.

Players may only parcipate in one region (Korea, America, or Europe) of the WCS.

Yeah, but he clearly misunderstood the exception about being allowed to play in Code A this season in another region for the 3 Code S players. His managers should have handled this.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
April 21 2013 02:48 GMT
#2482
On April 21 2013 11:47 govie wrote:
Guys i am not getting it. Can a 14/15 year old work in the states? because in germany u have heromarine and he didnt participate in wcs qualifier but hes really good like xenocider... can xenocider qualify in the states or has blizzard agerules? (else he will get DQ-ed aswell)


Just don't tell the MLG Admins and it will be OK.
The curse is real
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
April 21 2013 02:48 GMT
#2483
On April 21 2013 11:42 Cyrak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:39 Awesomeness wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:31 Cyrak wrote:


On April 21 2013 11:30 Dodgin wrote:
If it weren't for Koreans/EU players in WCS NA you would have 32 NA players competing for the same prize pool as GSL Code S.


A lot of people seem to want this. Seems ridiculous to me as well.


Well if you have 15 koreans in the top 16, it will be like Code B with same prize pool as GSL Code S.


Right, it is silly either way but that is a result of the way Blizzard designed WCS. The solution to the problem isn't to make it even dumber by making it a NA-only arena with a 100k prize pool.


Why not? It makes sense if it's the best of one region. It makes no sense if it's the lower tier of another region.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 02:49:24
April 21 2013 02:48 GMT
#2484
On April 21 2013 11:47 opterown wrote:
i don't think TB is meant to spoil that alicia qualified, MLG will be broadcasting the last matches over the week


Nope, it's on MLGs bracket. That's public information.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 21 2013 02:48 GMT
#2485
oh ok fair enough, seems a bit pointless to broadcast matches on their own days that we already know results of though
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 21 2013 02:49 GMT
#2486
On April 21 2013 11:48 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:42 Cyrak wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:39 Awesomeness wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:31 Cyrak wrote:


On April 21 2013 11:30 Dodgin wrote:
If it weren't for Koreans/EU players in WCS NA you would have 32 NA players competing for the same prize pool as GSL Code S.


A lot of people seem to want this. Seems ridiculous to me as well.


Well if you have 15 koreans in the top 16, it will be like Code B with same prize pool as GSL Code S.


Right, it is silly either way but that is a result of the way Blizzard designed WCS. The solution to the problem isn't to make it even dumber by making it a NA-only arena with a 100k prize pool.


Why not? It makes sense if it's the best of one region. It makes no sense if it's the lower tier of another region.


Because you don't deserve the same prize money as the champion of Korea for being the champion of NA.
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
April 21 2013 02:49 GMT
#2487
On April 21 2013 11:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Alicia 2-0 Revival
Oz 2-0 aLive
Alicia and Oz in Premier league


Oh christ. Poor Demuslim.
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 21 2013 02:49 GMT
#2488
On April 21 2013 11:48 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:47 govie wrote:
Guys i am not getting it. Can a 14/15 year old work in the states? because in germany u have heromarine and he didnt participate in wcs qualifier but hes really good like xenocider... can xenocider qualify in the states or has blizzard agerules? (else he will get DQ-ed aswell)


Just don't tell the MLG Admins and it will be OK.


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The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 02:50:32
April 21 2013 02:49 GMT
#2489
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 21 2013 02:50 GMT
#2490
On April 21 2013 11:49 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:48 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:42 Cyrak wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:39 Awesomeness wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:31 Cyrak wrote:


On April 21 2013 11:30 Dodgin wrote:
If it weren't for Koreans/EU players in WCS NA you would have 32 NA players competing for the same prize pool as GSL Code S.


A lot of people seem to want this. Seems ridiculous to me as well.


Well if you have 15 koreans in the top 16, it will be like Code B with same prize pool as GSL Code S.


Right, it is silly either way but that is a result of the way Blizzard designed WCS. The solution to the problem isn't to make it even dumber by making it a NA-only arena with a 100k prize pool.


Why not? It makes sense if it's the best of one region. It makes no sense if it's the lower tier of another region.


Because you don't deserve the same prize money as the champion of Korea for being the champion of NA.

idra > roro man, NA > KR
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 02:51:18
April 21 2013 02:50 GMT
#2491
On April 21 2013 11:48 opterown wrote:
oh ok fair enough, seems a bit pointless to broadcast matches on their own days that we already know results of though




MLG vs Kespa, the latest exhibition tournament at Anaheim.
It's a MLG thing

edit: fixed quote
The curse is real
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
April 21 2013 02:51 GMT
#2492
On April 21 2013 11:49 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:48 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:42 Cyrak wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:39 Awesomeness wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:31 Cyrak wrote:


On April 21 2013 11:30 Dodgin wrote:
If it weren't for Koreans/EU players in WCS NA you would have 32 NA players competing for the same prize pool as GSL Code S.


A lot of people seem to want this. Seems ridiculous to me as well.


Well if you have 15 koreans in the top 16, it will be like Code B with same prize pool as GSL Code S.


Right, it is silly either way but that is a result of the way Blizzard designed WCS. The solution to the problem isn't to make it even dumber by making it a NA-only arena with a 100k prize pool.


Why not? It makes sense if it's the best of one region. It makes no sense if it's the lower tier of another region.


Because you don't deserve the same prize money as the champion of Korea for being the champion of NA.


Maybe not, but the structure of it makes sense. It makes far less sense, and it's also less fair, for the champion of the tier 2 Koreans to get the same as the champion of the tier 1 Koreans
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 21 2013 02:52 GMT
#2493
Center, Jaedong, Zenio, Demuslim, and Revival all competing for the same spot among others
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
April 21 2013 02:53 GMT
#2494
On April 21 2013 11:51 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:49 Dodgin wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:48 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:42 Cyrak wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:39 Awesomeness wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:31 Cyrak wrote:


On April 21 2013 11:30 Dodgin wrote:
If it weren't for Koreans/EU players in WCS NA you would have 32 NA players competing for the same prize pool as GSL Code S.


A lot of people seem to want this. Seems ridiculous to me as well.


Well if you have 15 koreans in the top 16, it will be like Code B with same prize pool as GSL Code S.


Right, it is silly either way but that is a result of the way Blizzard designed WCS. The solution to the problem isn't to make it even dumber by making it a NA-only arena with a 100k prize pool.


Why not? It makes sense if it's the best of one region. It makes no sense if it's the lower tier of another region.


Because you don't deserve the same prize money as the champion of Korea for being the champion of NA.


Maybe not, but the structure of it makes sense. It makes far less sense, and it's also less fair, for the champion of the tier 2 Koreans to get the same as the champion of the tier 1 Koreans


You could say it's a bit of a fuzzy logic

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The curse is real
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 21 2013 02:53 GMT
#2495
On April 21 2013 11:51 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:49 Dodgin wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:48 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:42 Cyrak wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:39 Awesomeness wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:31 Cyrak wrote:


On April 21 2013 11:30 Dodgin wrote:
If it weren't for Koreans/EU players in WCS NA you would have 32 NA players competing for the same prize pool as GSL Code S.


A lot of people seem to want this. Seems ridiculous to me as well.


Well if you have 15 koreans in the top 16, it will be like Code B with same prize pool as GSL Code S.


Right, it is silly either way but that is a result of the way Blizzard designed WCS. The solution to the problem isn't to make it even dumber by making it a NA-only arena with a 100k prize pool.


Why not? It makes sense if it's the best of one region. It makes no sense if it's the lower tier of another region.


Because you don't deserve the same prize money as the champion of Korea for being the champion of NA.


Maybe not, but the structure of it makes sense. It makes far less sense, and it's also less fair, for the champion of the tier 2 Koreans to get the same as the champion of the tier 1 Koreans


If MC/MVP wins WCS_EU i do not dare to name him tier 2, u?
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
April 21 2013 02:53 GMT
#2496
On April 21 2013 11:51 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:49 Dodgin wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:48 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:42 Cyrak wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:39 Awesomeness wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:31 Cyrak wrote:


On April 21 2013 11:30 Dodgin wrote:
If it weren't for Koreans/EU players in WCS NA you would have 32 NA players competing for the same prize pool as GSL Code S.


A lot of people seem to want this. Seems ridiculous to me as well.


Well if you have 15 koreans in the top 16, it will be like Code B with same prize pool as GSL Code S.


Right, it is silly either way but that is a result of the way Blizzard designed WCS. The solution to the problem isn't to make it even dumber by making it a NA-only arena with a 100k prize pool.


Why not? It makes sense if it's the best of one region. It makes no sense if it's the lower tier of another region.


Because you don't deserve the same prize money as the champion of Korea for being the champion of NA.


Maybe not, but the structure of it makes sense. It makes far less sense, and it's also less fair, for the champion of the tier 2 Koreans to get the same as the champion of the tier 1 Koreans


You're right, the entire thing is fucked. It should be residency requirement to compete in a region (unless you're one of the CN/Australian players who are fucked) with prize pools that fit the skill level of each region

Korea should get X amount, NA should get 40% of that and EU should get 50-60% of that.
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
April 21 2013 02:53 GMT
#2497
On April 21 2013 11:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Center, Jaedong, Zenio, Demuslim, and Revival all competing for the same spot among others


I feel really bad for Demuslim...
xlord 5:0
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 21 2013 02:54 GMT
#2498
On April 21 2013 11:51 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:49 Dodgin wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:48 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:42 Cyrak wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:39 Awesomeness wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:31 Cyrak wrote:


On April 21 2013 11:30 Dodgin wrote:
If it weren't for Koreans/EU players in WCS NA you would have 32 NA players competing for the same prize pool as GSL Code S.


A lot of people seem to want this. Seems ridiculous to me as well.


Well if you have 15 koreans in the top 16, it will be like Code B with same prize pool as GSL Code S.


Right, it is silly either way but that is a result of the way Blizzard designed WCS. The solution to the problem isn't to make it even dumber by making it a NA-only arena with a 100k prize pool.


Why not? It makes sense if it's the best of one region. It makes no sense if it's the lower tier of another region.


Because you don't deserve the same prize money as the champion of Korea for being the champion of NA.


Maybe not, but the structure of it makes sense. It makes far less sense, and it's also less fair, for the champion of the tier 2 Koreans to get the same as the champion of the tier 1 Koreans


Which is why Korea should have had higher prize pool.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 21 2013 02:55 GMT
#2499
On April 21 2013 11:53 Awesomeness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Center, Jaedong, Zenio, Demuslim, and Revival all competing for the same spot among others


I feel really bad for Demuslim...


Same but I think he has an ok chance getting past them.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
April 21 2013 02:57 GMT
#2500
On April 21 2013 11:53 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:51 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:49 Dodgin wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:48 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:42 Cyrak wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:39 Awesomeness wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:31 Cyrak wrote:


On April 21 2013 11:30 Dodgin wrote:
If it weren't for Koreans/EU players in WCS NA you would have 32 NA players competing for the same prize pool as GSL Code S.


A lot of people seem to want this. Seems ridiculous to me as well.


Well if you have 15 koreans in the top 16, it will be like Code B with same prize pool as GSL Code S.


Right, it is silly either way but that is a result of the way Blizzard designed WCS. The solution to the problem isn't to make it even dumber by making it a NA-only arena with a 100k prize pool.


Why not? It makes sense if it's the best of one region. It makes no sense if it's the lower tier of another region.


Because you don't deserve the same prize money as the champion of Korea for being the champion of NA.


Maybe not, but the structure of it makes sense. It makes far less sense, and it's also less fair, for the champion of the tier 2 Koreans to get the same as the champion of the tier 1 Koreans


You're right, the entire thing is fucked. It should be residency requirement to compete in a region (unless you're one of the CN/Australian players who are fucked) with prize pools that fit the skill level of each region

Korea should get X amount, NA should get 40% of that and EU should get 50-60% of that.


Luckily there will be a defacto residency requirement in the coming seasons as the games move entirely offline. At least Koreans will have to stay in their foreign team house for a few weeks as it happens which would mean they can't do proleague or gstl.

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