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Vashalgrim
Profile Joined July 2010
United States77 Posts
April 21 2013 03:04 GMT
#2521
On April 21 2013 12:02 FinalForm wrote:
am I the only one that has literally no clue how this WCS works?


It would be nice if the various WCS regions actually had the same setup. But to answer your question, no, you are definitely not the only one.
"The greatest way to live with honor in this world is to be what we pretend to be." -Socrates
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
April 21 2013 03:04 GMT
#2522
Typical Jaedong getting knocked out by dumb ZvZ matches.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
April 21 2013 03:04 GMT
#2523
On April 21 2013 11:48 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:42 Cyrak wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:39 Awesomeness wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:31 Cyrak wrote:


On April 21 2013 11:30 Dodgin wrote:
If it weren't for Koreans/EU players in WCS NA you would have 32 NA players competing for the same prize pool as GSL Code S.


A lot of people seem to want this. Seems ridiculous to me as well.


Well if you have 15 koreans in the top 16, it will be like Code B with same prize pool as GSL Code S.


Right, it is silly either way but that is a result of the way Blizzard designed WCS. The solution to the problem isn't to make it even dumber by making it a NA-only arena with a 100k prize pool.


Why not? It makes sense if it's the best of one region. It makes no sense if it's the lower tier of another region.


Thank you. WCS America should just be renamed GSL Code B to save us all the confusion. At what point does it cease being WCS America and become WCS Western Korea? When no one from the region beats the qualifiers? When a third of the competitors in the Premier League need a translator? Or is it when they realize that when they do the offline events that they're paying for more international plane tickets than trans-America ones?

Anyway, congrats Alicia and Oz. You can't take away a win in a 512 man tourney, even if I think you shouldn't have been allowed to sign up in the first place.
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
April 21 2013 03:04 GMT
#2524
On April 21 2013 12:01 Mentalizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:57 Nebuchad wrote:
I could check myself I guess but who beat Jaedong?

quasAr; American masters player
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/331603/1/quasAr/


Well... I'm sure quasAr is an excellent player... but... It's Jaedong... Without even having seen the games, I guess we can tell something about ZvZ here...


They were both lost in the early game, and early game ZvZ is probably the most lag affected match up
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 21 2013 03:05 GMT
#2525
On April 21 2013 12:04 Vashalgrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 12:02 FinalForm wrote:
am I the only one that has literally no clue how this WCS works?


It would be nice if the various WCS regions actually had the same setup. But to answer your question, no, you are definitely not the only one.

at least the main part of each region is formatted the same. imagine if they let each region come up with their own tournament format on top of their own qualifier format. O_o
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 21 2013 03:05 GMT
#2526
So Jaedong is out for good now?
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TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
April 21 2013 03:05 GMT
#2527
On April 21 2013 11:58 Darpa wrote:
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On April 21 2013 11:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:57 Darpa wrote:
SO is this actually the last game, or the last casted game? if its the last casted game its trash that they dont let someone else finish.


Like who? Puckett?



NASL maybe? or the dozens of other casters who would love to cast it?


You mean the organization that Blizzard will not let cast on their own channel? Blizzard wants a "unified approach", one broadcasting organization per region. That is their plan, this has nothing to do with MLG. MLG could not give a caster spot to anyone else even if they wanted to. Blizzard doesn't want that to happen.
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cravin74
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1088 Posts
April 21 2013 03:05 GMT
#2528
On April 21 2013 12:01 Branman wrote:
I'm wondering if JD will even play those matches. They have SPL at 4:30 am EDT after the WCS qualifiers which start at 1:30 pm EDT. That's up to 6 best of 3s; he could end up playing until a few hours before they're supposed to leave for the studio. Dunno what coach Park will think of that.


Didn't EG-TL play their PL match yesterday?
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 21 2013 03:05 GMT
#2529
On April 21 2013 11:53 Awesomeness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Center, Jaedong, Zenio, Demuslim, and Revival all competing for the same spot among others


I feel really bad for Demuslim...

he wont have to play all of them. actually he will only have to play Revival. Center, JD and Zenio all on the top half of the bracket, he is on the bottom half.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 21 2013 03:06 GMT
#2530
On April 21 2013 12:05 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
So Jaedong is out for good now?

No he's still in the lower bracket. He faces JonSnow next in Losers' Round 7
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Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
April 21 2013 03:06 GMT
#2531
On April 21 2013 11:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Center, Jaedong, Zenio, Demuslim, and Revival all competing for the same spot among others


Interesting note: Center, JD, and Zenio are all going to Dreamhack next weekend. If they don't qualify here, they might have to sit out the challenger league qualifier next Saturday (unless they get dropped from dreamhack on day 1).
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
April 21 2013 03:07 GMT
#2532
On April 21 2013 12:05 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:58 Darpa wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:57 Darpa wrote:
SO is this actually the last game, or the last casted game? if its the last casted game its trash that they dont let someone else finish.


Like who? Puckett?



NASL maybe? or the dozens of other casters who would love to cast it?


You mean the organization that Blizzard will not let cast on their own channel? Blizzard wants a "unified approach", one broadcasting organization per region. That is their plan, this has nothing to do with MLG. MLG could not give a caster spot to anyone else even if they wanted to. Blizzard doesn't want that to happen.


Why were the EU qualifiers on tons of different streams then..?
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12475 Posts
April 21 2013 03:07 GMT
#2533
According to the official bracket, there's about to be a game in the loser bracket between aiurrrrrrrrrr and aaaaaaa.

This is way funnier to me than it should be.
No will to live, no wish to die
j4vz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada976 Posts
April 21 2013 03:08 GMT
#2534
On April 21 2013 12:04 Gamegene wrote:
Typical Jaedong getting knocked out by dumb ZvZ matches.


latency +.bane/lings wars
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Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 03:09:32
April 21 2013 03:08 GMT
#2535
On April 21 2013 12:05 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:58 Darpa wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:57 Darpa wrote:
SO is this actually the last game, or the last casted game? if its the last casted game its trash that they dont let someone else finish.


Like who? Puckett?



NASL maybe? or the dozens of other casters who would love to cast it?


You mean the organization that Blizzard will not let cast on their own channel? Blizzard wants a "unified approach", one broadcasting organization per region. That is their plan, this has nothing to do with MLG. MLG could not give a caster spot to anyone else even if they wanted to. Blizzard doesn't want that to happen.


I never said it was MLG's fault did I? I know full well its blizzards decision, and its a shitty one. Sure if they want everything on a unified channel for the main events thats perfectly fine. But there is no reason why they cant allow some other casters for open qualifiers. Or at least contract out the work. I'm sure some sort of arrangement could be made.

I mean we have watched all day, and just when the elite games come on, the cast is ending.

edit. Axeltoss and Axslav are saints for casting all day already... not taking away anything from them
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
April 21 2013 03:08 GMT
#2536
Wow this is still going on. Seems like a terrible time for Australasian players.
Branman
Profile Joined March 2013
United States203 Posts
April 21 2013 03:08 GMT
#2537
On April 21 2013 12:05 cravin74 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 12:01 Branman wrote:
I'm wondering if JD will even play those matches. They have SPL at 4:30 am EDT after the WCS qualifiers which start at 1:30 pm EDT. That's up to 6 best of 3s; he could end up playing until a few hours before they're supposed to leave for the studio. Dunno what coach Park will think of that.


Didn't EG-TL play their PL match yesterday?


Yep, but they're playing again on Monday: 29 hours from now.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 21 2013 03:08 GMT
#2538
On April 21 2013 12:07 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 12:05 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:58 Darpa wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:57 Darpa wrote:
SO is this actually the last game, or the last casted game? if its the last casted game its trash that they dont let someone else finish.


Like who? Puckett?



NASL maybe? or the dozens of other casters who would love to cast it?


You mean the organization that Blizzard will not let cast on their own channel? Blizzard wants a "unified approach", one broadcasting organization per region. That is their plan, this has nothing to do with MLG. MLG could not give a caster spot to anyone else even if they wanted to. Blizzard doesn't want that to happen.


Why were the EU qualifiers on tons of different streams then..?


Different languages, it's why the double english stream(NASL) got shut down.
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 03:10:00
April 21 2013 03:09 GMT
#2539
On April 21 2013 12:05 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 11:58 Darpa wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 21 2013 11:57 Darpa wrote:
SO is this actually the last game, or the last casted game? if its the last casted game its trash that they dont let someone else finish.


Like who? Puckett?



NASL maybe? or the dozens of other casters who would love to cast it?


You mean the organization that Blizzard will not let cast on their own channel? Blizzard wants a "unified approach", one broadcasting organization per region. That is their plan, this has nothing to do with MLG. MLG could not give a caster spot to anyone else even if they wanted to. Blizzard doesn't want that to happen.


So how come there were like 8 casters for the WCS EU qualifier? Yeah there was esl.pl and stuff, but there were also casters that aren't associated with the ESL at all.

different languages doesn't explain it either, there were 2 german casts.
xlord 5:0
Vashalgrim
Profile Joined July 2010
United States77 Posts
April 21 2013 03:09 GMT
#2540
On April 21 2013 12:05 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2013 12:04 Vashalgrim wrote:
On April 21 2013 12:02 FinalForm wrote:
am I the only one that has literally no clue how this WCS works?


It would be nice if the various WCS regions actually had the same setup. But to answer your question, no, you are definitely not the only one.

at least the main part of each region is formatted the same. imagine if they let each region come up with their own tournament format on top of their own qualifier format. O_o


Good point, I shudder to think about what that would have ended up looking like.
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