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M.R. McThundercrotch
Profile Joined June 2012
United States265 Posts
April 08 2013 09:06 GMT
#161
Hopefully Swarm Host builds will keep losing until Blizzard just does away with them. The bastard child of Lurkers and Brood Lords, I have never seen them do anything interesting. With the decreased role of Fungal Growth, maybe we could see the root removed from that, too...
On June 30 2012 01:42 iNcontroL wrote: Fuck a lot of you. Fuck you forever.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 08 2013 09:06 GMT
#162
I would really like if zerg harassing would be somewhat effective, the reaction time from bogus was pretty appalling - Ts are used to simply being safe. And this game is a pretty good demonstration of why.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
April 08 2013 09:06 GMT
#163
SNM and Whiplash look nothing like I imagined them.
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
April 08 2013 09:06 GMT
#164
Hahaha, SNM now backtracking and sticking it to the people picking on their commentary this time by pointing out everything they want him to point out. Funny.
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
AyaaLa
Profile Joined February 2012
Spain629 Posts
April 08 2013 09:06 GMT
#165
On April 08 2013 18:06 JJH777 wrote:
SNM and Whiplash look nothing like I imagined them.


haha, so true
i balance whine all the time.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 08 2013 09:06 GMT
#166
Hmmm, should I play a game of DotA2 or should I stay and watch Mind play...

I guess I'll watch some HotS then.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 08 2013 09:07 GMT
#167
On April 08 2013 18:04 Megiddosc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:00 pwnz0r wrote:
On April 08 2013 17:58 greatZERG wrote:
Am I the only person who didn't see this game as being close at all? Action was -30 supply the whole game but the commentators were acting like it was dead even. 40+ SCV kills and still didn't get near his supply.


I feel exactly the same way. The commentators aren't calling these games well at all. Whiplash keeps talking about the "high level" of play in this game, but it was really just Innovation taking apart Action left and right. Cute stuff from action, but this game was never close.

Did you miss Bogus losing 40+ scvs? Granted he's terran, and his units are insanely cost effective so it doesn't really matter, but yeah, Action did MAJOR damage with the baneling drop. It's just that terran doesn't need scvs nearly as much as the other races need their harvesters.


he killed 40 SCVs when Bogus was actually ahead on workers. Bogus was at 70 workers to Actions ~55 and normally Zerg needs to be ahead. Action did merely catch up in workers with the drops and he didn't do anything to Bogus army at all.

Bogus had the huge army lead afterwards (because of better macro) and then attacked with superior micro and good multitasking with drops.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 09:07:45
April 08 2013 09:07 GMT
#168
On April 08 2013 18:01 PredY wrote:
think he made too many SHs in the end, they are OKish vs mines but ultimately useless vs mass bio, especially when used just to defend. would love to see him save up that gas for more ultras


in panic mode, Action thought those little mushroom could shoot spikes from underground....

ok I wont brought up this discussion again but it's pretty frustrated to see a band of bio run into zerg's expo with like five SHs worth of resource and kill everything with ease
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
April 08 2013 09:07 GMT
#169
mind mind mind
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16089 Posts
April 08 2013 09:07 GMT
#170
On April 08 2013 18:06 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Hopefully Swarm Host builds will keep losing until Blizzard just does away with them. The bastard child of Lurkers and Brood Lords, I have never seen them do anything interesting. With the decreased role of Fungal Growth, maybe we could see the root removed from that, too...


Swarm Hosts are actually really good when used offensively but as for a defensive unit they are not very powerful.

The unit is going to take some time to really figure out but trust me, once the pros do people will change their minds about it.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 09:08:32
April 08 2013 09:07 GMT
#171
On April 08 2013 18:04 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:03 NicksonReyes wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:01 Emnjay808 wrote:
Damn, Action looks very upset. He shouldn't be. That was a very good game.

He should be for his now 8-loss streak .


That's a longer losing streak than Puma.

Just checked, actually just 7. The last 5 were vs Baby, Roro, Soulkey, Effort and Innovation. Poor Action.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
April 08 2013 09:07 GMT
#172
Mind! |Finally we get to see him. they hype him during all the commercial breaks it seems
Yes It's a Good Day. 저는 아이유 사랑해요!
Ragnar1
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia88 Posts
April 08 2013 09:07 GMT
#173
Really interesting style by Action. Feel like infestor+swarmhost in small defensive groups is too easy to exploit though.
SayTT
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2158 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 09:08:28
April 08 2013 09:08 GMT
#174
Mind <3 he was one of my semi favorite players, just by beating Bisu after savior went into his slump
-,-
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 08 2013 09:08 GMT
#175
Does anyone have a link for that Mind video/song ? Please ^^
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 08 2013 09:08 GMT
#176
On April 08 2013 18:07 Yello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:04 Megiddosc wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:00 pwnz0r wrote:
On April 08 2013 17:58 greatZERG wrote:
Am I the only person who didn't see this game as being close at all? Action was -30 supply the whole game but the commentators were acting like it was dead even. 40+ SCV kills and still didn't get near his supply.


I feel exactly the same way. The commentators aren't calling these games well at all. Whiplash keeps talking about the "high level" of play in this game, but it was really just Innovation taking apart Action left and right. Cute stuff from action, but this game was never close.

Did you miss Bogus losing 40+ scvs? Granted he's terran, and his units are insanely cost effective so it doesn't really matter, but yeah, Action did MAJOR damage with the baneling drop. It's just that terran doesn't need scvs nearly as much as the other races need their harvesters.


he killed 40 SCVs when Bogus was actually ahead on workers. Bogus was at 70 workers to Actions ~55 and normally Zerg needs to be ahead. Action did merely catch up in workers with the drops and he didn't do anything to Bogus army at all.

Bogus had the huge army lead afterwards (because of better macro) and then attacked with superior micro and good multitasking with drops.

70 drones vs 48 scvs. But with 3/4 CCs that is obviously not very much of a difference at all.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
April 08 2013 09:08 GMT
#177
On April 08 2013 18:03 NicksonReyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:01 Emnjay808 wrote:
Damn, Action looks very upset. He shouldn't be. That was a very good game.

He should be for his now 8-loss streak .

Action is only meeting strong opponents tho. It's a drag to watch that epic zerg when it happens. He loses confidence. TT Atleast Broejja is awesome every playoff.
The Bomber boy
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
April 08 2013 09:09 GMT
#178
On April 08 2013 18:04 Megiddosc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:00 pwnz0r wrote:
On April 08 2013 17:58 greatZERG wrote:
Am I the only person who didn't see this game as being close at all? Action was -30 supply the whole game but the commentators were acting like it was dead even. 40+ SCV kills and still didn't get near his supply.


I feel exactly the same way. The commentators aren't calling these games well at all. Whiplash keeps talking about the "high level" of play in this game, but it was really just Innovation taking apart Action left and right. Cute stuff from action, but this game was never close.

Did you miss Bogus losing 40+ scvs? Granted he's terran, and his units are insanely cost effective so it doesn't really matter, but yeah, Action did MAJOR damage with the baneling drop. It's just that terran doesn't need scvs nearly as much as the other races need their harvesters.


That's correct, but protoss and especially zerg can produce workers much faster. While Action was bombing he was also losing his fourth, and to get way ahead from the baneling bombs he would have wanted a fifth.

Investing in those bombs cost him a lot, and Innovation was able to use his superior army to make sure Action could not get too far ahead while he rebuilt his SCV count.

Then Action went for an army composition that did not work against Innovation, and he was far behind.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 09:09:46
April 08 2013 09:09 GMT
#179
On April 08 2013 18:07 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:06 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
Hopefully Swarm Host builds will keep losing until Blizzard just does away with them. The bastard child of Lurkers and Brood Lords, I have never seen them do anything interesting. With the decreased role of Fungal Growth, maybe we could see the root removed from that, too...


Swarm Hosts are actually really good when used offensively but as for a defensive unit they are not very powerful.

The unit is going to take some time to really figure out but trust me, once the pros do people will change their minds about it.


Seriously hope they don't remove swarm hosts. I"m actually having more fun playing with them online than I did with lurkers and I think they are good against Protoss or meching terran. (at least at my level of play )
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
April 08 2013 09:09 GMT
#180
I think pure ling drops while using the gas somewhere else, maybe even on few baneling mines might have worked better. Fun game to watch nontheless.
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