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TritaN
Profile Joined December 2010
United States406 Posts
April 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#121
On April 08 2013 17:58 SayTT wrote:
the casters overlooked that boogus didnt lose any army value during the baneling harass and had a steady army rise all game long. Up until this point, when he crushes action with attacks at all front


Putting it nicely, the casters are... not very good.

Bogus however, is good. Very, very good.
pwnz0r
Profile Joined August 2010
United States123 Posts
April 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#122
On April 08 2013 17:58 greatZERG wrote:
Am I the only person who didn't see this game as being close at all? Action was -30 supply the whole game but the commentators were acting like it was dead even. 40+ SCV kills and still didn't get near his supply.


I feel exactly the same way. The commentators aren't calling these games well at all. Whiplash keeps talking about the "high level" of play in this game, but it was really just Innovation taking apart Action left and right. Cute stuff from action, but this game was never close.
D-light
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland7364 Posts
April 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#123
Thank god for Theognis an pals. Can actually listen to the commentary without cringing.
why even
SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
April 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#124
Casters didn't notice Innovation pulled workers off Gas to mitigate losing so many to the banelings.


Also Innovation wasn't losing army, just workers.

Action's drone count wasn't greedy enough, nor was his army strong enough after that. He essentially traded away a lot of gas (plus overlord speed/transport), but it seems he made a really poor choice to go into swarmhosts.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
April 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#125
On April 08 2013 17:58 Dark.Carnival wrote:
i really liked how action played but bogus is just wayyy better than him

Or maybe mines and medivac boost done it in the end...
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
tribulator
Profile Joined February 2011
774 Posts
April 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#126
They should have switched names for that game...
Bommes
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1226 Posts
April 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#127
I liked the Nydus Worm usage, but I feel like all the baneling drops into the terran economy hurt him more than they helped. Replenishing SCVs is really easy and it made his army spread really thing and he couldn't defend his expansions because of that.
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
April 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#128
Kinda glad I have action on my FPL, his not that bad.
argie
Profile Joined July 2010
Croatia31 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 09:01:18
April 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#129
Damn.

Zerg gave EVERYTHING he had (even droppin) against Terran and didn't even scratch him. I know Innovation is a godly player but this shows that Terran is just OP in some aspects. like 50 workers lost.... NP!

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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
April 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#130
Action just could never rally enough units together to form an army he could really go on offense with. Innovation's macro just kept him on defense the entire time.

The baneling drops were cute but they just weren't enough to stall Innovation's economy to a point where Action could actually build a legitimate army, so he just kept defending until eventually he folded.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#131
Even KeSPA have surrendered to the cuteness of Carbot?! :O
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Chantastic
Profile Joined June 2012
86 Posts
April 08 2013 09:00 GMT
#132
On April 08 2013 17:58 FinestHour wrote:
i mean action never got a supply lead even after killing 50 scvs
that was pretty foreboding of how the game was going


Pretty much, but damn that was cool. Fast 3 CC let Innovation catch back up really quickly with Mules/Triple production.

Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10656 Posts
April 08 2013 09:01 GMT
#133
Damn, Action looks very upset. He shouldn't be. That was a very good game.
Skol
Highwinds
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada955 Posts
April 08 2013 09:01 GMT
#134
meh casters hype the loser again and again... Huk yesterday. today action.. If they just look at supply or upgrades it's not even close games. -.-

entertainin game. action showed some cool harass but i feel like this relies on the terran trying harder to defend than attack for it to work
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PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
April 08 2013 09:01 GMT
#135
think he made too many SHs in the end, they are OKish vs mines but ultimately useless vs mass bio, especially when used just to defend. would love to see him save up that gas for more ultras
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Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
April 08 2013 09:01 GMT
#136
Action played well, but honestly did a single person think bogus wasn't gonna win that game?

He's in crushing form.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18412 Posts
April 08 2013 09:01 GMT
#137
On April 08 2013 18:01 Highwinds wrote:
meh casters hype the loser again and again... Huk yesterday. today action.. If they just look at supply or upgrades it's not even close games. -.-

entertainin game. action showed some cool harass but i feel like this relies on the terran trying harder to defend than attack for it to work


yeah the casters never take a single note of macro
hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
April 08 2013 09:01 GMT
#138
On April 08 2013 18:00 pwnz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 17:58 greatZERG wrote:
Am I the only person who didn't see this game as being close at all? Action was -30 supply the whole game but the commentators were acting like it was dead even. 40+ SCV kills and still didn't get near his supply.


I feel exactly the same way. The commentators aren't calling these games well at all. Whiplash keeps talking about the "high level" of play in this game, but it was really just Innovation taking apart Action left and right. Cute stuff from action, but this game was never close.


Yeah they kept talking about how well Action was doing when Innovation was at like 190 supply and Action was at 138 supply.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 09:03:47
April 08 2013 09:01 GMT
#139
On April 08 2013 18:00 argie wrote:
Damn.

Zerg gave EVERYTHING he had (even droppin) against Terran and didn't even scratch him. I know Innovation is a godly player but this shows that Terran is just OP in some aspects.


It doesn't show that at all. It just shows that what Action was doing wasn't effective at actually denying Innovation's macro, he was just constantly delaying him but never really causing any real damage.

Just because something doesn't work it doesn't mean a race is overpowered it just means a strategy didn't work. Honestly Action would've been better off just using Mutalisks. The Swarm Hosts were more expensive, more supply heavy and just not effective enough especially considering they have no ability to actually counter attack while being spread out.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 08 2013 09:02 GMT
#140
On April 08 2013 17:58 greatZERG wrote:
Am I the only person who didn't see this game as being close at all? Action was -30 supply the whole game but the commentators were acting like it was dead even. 40+ SCV kills and still didn't get near his supply.


na, you're not alone.
The whole game was basically Innovation being caught with his pants down to the drops, cleaning up the mess, being 20supply ahead and then starting to abuse the fact that Action didn't play mutalisks.
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