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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 09:18:15
April 08 2013 09:17 GMT
#201
On April 08 2013 18:04 Megiddosc wrote:
Granted he's terran, and his units are insanely cost effective so it doesn't really matter


What? Terran is cost effective? Did you watch highlevel TvZ the last 3 weeks? It is all about trading everywhere to not let the Zerg get too many ultras.
Terran feels like Zerg should be.

On April 08 2013 18:04 Megiddosc wrote:
It's just that terran doesn't need scvs nearly as much as the other races need their harvesters.


Only because there are MULEs, it doesnt mean that you can keep up with the economy when you lost so many workers.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Megiddosc
Profile Joined April 2011
United States966 Posts
April 08 2013 09:18 GMT
#202
I just like how Blizzard has always said that they made Terran the most versatile because Wings of Liberty was the Terran expansion. So now with HotS, what is Zerg's versatility? Is there anything other than ling/bane/muta that could effectively do anything, or is our versatility nonexistant? Hopefully something will eventually be discovered.
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
April 08 2013 09:18 GMT
#203
Nexus cannon after the medivac has left? Trap's nerves are already getting to him...
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
April 08 2013 09:19 GMT
#204
On April 08 2013 18:14 eviltomahawk wrote:
Swarm Hosts should get the upgrade from campaign where they can instantly teleport around the map. That should solve some defensive woes.

Better give Terrans aoe Banshees to compensate.

try to make a bad design work. sounds like typical Blizzard eh
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
April 08 2013 09:19 GMT
#205
can't stop associating the player mind with the mindmindmindmindmindmind song
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
April 08 2013 09:20 GMT
#206
On April 08 2013 18:18 Megiddosc wrote:
I just like how Blizzard has always said that they made Terran the most versatile because Wings of Liberty was the Terran expansion. So now with HotS, what is Zerg's versatility? Is there anything other than ling/bane/muta that could effectively do anything, or is our versatility nonexistant? Hopefully something will eventually be discovered.


when david kim was asked about this he defined zerg completeness as in units of all 3 techs are being used so he feels zerg is complete now lololol
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
April 08 2013 09:20 GMT
#207
I don't wanna call that templar archives late
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
April 08 2013 09:21 GMT
#208
dat obs snipe !
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 09:21:53
April 08 2013 09:21 GMT
#209
On April 08 2013 18:19 Grumbels wrote:
can't stop associating the player mind with the mindmindmindmindmindmind song

I was just about to come in here and paste the lyrics :D

And then I always realise that he has an MSL o.O
The heart's eternal vow
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
April 08 2013 09:22 GMT
#210
On April 08 2013 18:18 Megiddosc wrote:
I just like how Blizzard has always said that they made Terran the most versatile because Wings of Liberty was the Terran expansion. So now with HotS, what is Zerg's versatility? Is there anything other than ling/bane/muta that could effectively do anything, or is our versatility nonexistant? Hopefully something will eventually be discovered.

I have seen a fair few people use roach/hydra/viper but you have to have a shed load of static defense to go with it
centergoliath4
Profile Joined March 2013
37 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 09:24:26
April 08 2013 09:23 GMT
#211
On April 08 2013 18:17 graNite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:04 Megiddosc wrote:
Granted he's terran, and his units are insanely cost effective so it doesn't really matter


What? Terran is cost effective? Did you watch highlevel TvZ the last 3 weeks? It is all about trading everywhere to not let the Zerg get too many ultras.
Terran feels like Zerg should be.

Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:04 Megiddosc wrote:
It's just that terran doesn't need scvs nearly as much as the other races need their harvesters.


Only because there are MULEs, it doesnt mean that you can keep up with the economy when you lost so many workers.


yup. pretty much the zergs hope is ultras now. mutas to defend long enough to get ultras

spending gas on infestors is kind of worthless. the best option is ultras

every 150 gas you spend on a infestor, 50 more gas would get you an ultra

3/3 ultralisks on creep are pretty much the only real unit zerg has that can beat terran. And they do a good job of it beating any even food force. only need 1-2 infestors to stop bio from kiting and its goodbye

im almost starting to think it might be better to skip pathogen glands and just get 2 infestors around the time the pits done and protect them heavily. they can provide occasional fungals, so when your ultra force is done you have a couple fungals and dats it to stop kiting
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
April 08 2013 09:23 GMT
#212
Imo, it's a good thing that some of the new maps are named after areas prominent in the campaign. (Korhal floating island) I think they also should have a map with the Zerus theme, and in general they should be making references to the campaign even in the maps, for instance with Mengsk statues and whatnot. I think that's more engaging and memorable for casual viewers.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
April 08 2013 09:24 GMT
#213
Wow, mind is back, hope he doesn't get slaughtered.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24584 Posts
April 08 2013 09:24 GMT
#214
On April 08 2013 18:23 Grumbels wrote:
Imo, it's a good thing that some of the new maps are named after areas prominent in the campaign. (Korhal floating island) I think they also should have a map with the Zerus theme, and in general they should be making references to the campaign even in the maps, for instance with Mengsk statues and whatnot. I think that's more engaging and memorable for casual viewers.


That's actually not a bad idea.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
April 08 2013 09:25 GMT
#215
On April 08 2013 18:23 Grumbels wrote:
Imo, it's a good thing that some of the new maps are named after areas prominent in the campaign. (Korhal floating island) I think they also should have a map with the Zerus theme, and in general they should be making references to the campaign even in the maps, for instance with Mengsk statues and whatnot. I think that's more engaging and memorable for casual viewers.


I agree. The graphic design in campaign missions wasn't bad either so I'd like to see those elements carry over too.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
April 08 2013 09:27 GMT
#216
On April 08 2013 18:18 Megiddosc wrote:
I just like how Blizzard has always said that they made Terran the most versatile because Wings of Liberty was the Terran expansion. So now with HotS, what is Zerg's versatility? Is there anything other than ling/bane/muta that could effectively do anything, or is our versatility nonexistant? Hopefully something will eventually be discovered.


In TvZ Terran has the most versatile early game with multiple harassment options, but mid-game and late-game will eventually settle into nothing but marine, marauder, mine, medivac.

Zerg has the least versatile early and mid-game which will eventually settle into nothing but heavy ling, bling, mutalisk, but have more T3 options in broodlords, ultralisks, infestors and vipers.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
April 08 2013 09:27 GMT
#217
Vikings are overrated!!!!!!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
April 08 2013 09:28 GMT
#218
On April 08 2013 18:18 Megiddosc wrote:
I just like how Blizzard has always said that they made Terran the most versatile because Wings of Liberty was the Terran expansion. So now with HotS, what is Zerg's versatility? Is there anything other than ling/bane/muta that could effectively do anything, or is our versatility nonexistant? Hopefully something will eventually be discovered.


Think about TvP. Sure terran has a few different openers but after that there is no versatility at all for terran. I would say zergs has more options against T than T has against P. I think we should wait for the players to develop the meta and see what happens.
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
April 08 2013 09:28 GMT
#219
Missed opportunity to stim forward with the marauders and kill the colossi.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 08 2013 09:29 GMT
#220
Poll: Recommend KT vs STX Set 2?

If you have time (7)
 
50%

Yes (4)
 
29%

No (3)
 
21%

14 total votes

Your vote: Recommend KT vs STX Set 2?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
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