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Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
April 08 2013 09:36 GMT
#241
I hope we get an Ace match of Flash vs Innovation.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
April 08 2013 09:36 GMT
#242
I think my FPL is screwed either way from today, KT are the team I picked but I have Crazy on my anti, I need everyone bar Crazy to win to pull it to the ace :/
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 09:40:30
April 08 2013 09:38 GMT
#243
On April 08 2013 18:34 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:32 Giriath wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:28 Fjodorov wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:18 Megiddosc wrote:
I just like how Blizzard has always said that they made Terran the most versatile because Wings of Liberty was the Terran expansion. So now with HotS, what is Zerg's versatility? Is there anything other than ling/bane/muta that could effectively do anything, or is our versatility nonexistant? Hopefully something will eventually be discovered.


Think about TvP. Sure terran has a few different openers but after that there is no versatility at all for terran. I would say zergs has more options against T than T has against P. I think we should wait for the players to develop the meta and see what happens.


In fact Terran T3 (except ghosts in TvP) is viable in nothing but late-game TvT.

Ravens are pretty common late game TvZ... don't use 'in fact' when you're spouting biased nonsense

This is a lie. I haven't seen any raven being used in TvZ in Proleague. Raven is not cost effective because the spells are not reliable at all. Spells with 5 seconds delay are a joke.
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 08 2013 09:39 GMT
#244
On April 08 2013 18:33 p14c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:29 Otolia wrote:
Not putting Flash in the first 4 players is going to come back and bite KT in the ass ...
It doesnt matter if the other players can't win a single match. This is not winners league you know?...

Look at my post count ? Do you think I ignore that it's not WL ?

Having your best player in the first 4 guarantee a 5th match which gives you one more chance to take the match into the ace game. It would not effectively double the probability the KT has to win the game (games aren't independent) after the first 3 games lost but it would increase it nonetheless.
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
April 08 2013 09:39 GMT
#245
On April 08 2013 18:36 paradoxOO9 wrote:
I think my FPL is screwed either way from today, KT are the team I picked but I have Crazy on my anti, I need everyone bar Crazy to win to pull it to the ace :/


Bisu 4
Innovation 3
Trap 3

Doing well today, and I have KT as my team so I'm hoping for 4-3 STX Soul where Innovation wins the Ace match, for a perfect finish for my FPL today.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
April 08 2013 09:40 GMT
#246
On April 08 2013 18:38 p14c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:34 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:32 Giriath wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:28 Fjodorov wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:18 Megiddosc wrote:
I just like how Blizzard has always said that they made Terran the most versatile because Wings of Liberty was the Terran expansion. So now with HotS, what is Zerg's versatility? Is there anything other than ling/bane/muta that could effectively do anything, or is our versatility nonexistant? Hopefully something will eventually be discovered.


Think about TvP. Sure terran has a few different openers but after that there is no versatility at all for terran. I would say zergs has more options against T than T has against P. I think we should wait for the players to develop the meta and see what happens.


In fact Terran T3 (except ghosts in TvP) is viable in nothing but late-game TvT.

Ravens are pretty common late game TvZ... don't use 'in fact' when you're spouting biased nonsense

This is a lie. I haven't seen any raven being used in TvZ in Proleague. Raven is not cost effective because the spells are not reliable at all.

Bomber uses Ravens in almost every single late game TvZ he plays, usually to great effect as well.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 08 2013 09:40 GMT
#247
59 Votes on the first 'Recommended Games' poll, only 10 on the second Oo
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 09:43:40
April 08 2013 09:42 GMT
#248
On April 08 2013 18:39 Giriath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:36 paradoxOO9 wrote:
I think my FPL is screwed either way from today, KT are the team I picked but I have Crazy on my anti, I need everyone bar Crazy to win to pull it to the ace :/


Bisu 4
Innovation 3
Trap 3

Doing well today, and I have KT as my team so I'm hoping for 4-3 STX Soul where Innovation wins the Ace match, for a perfect finish for my FPL today.

I have Innovation as my captain, any chance you could shine some light on would actually be better for my points? This is the first time I have actually done FPL. Quite lucky that I am being pulled up by Argo and Jaedong really, and Bisu for 2 points was too cheap to pass up
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
April 08 2013 09:43 GMT
#249
On April 08 2013 18:40 paradoxOO9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:38 p14c wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:34 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:32 Giriath wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:28 Fjodorov wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:18 Megiddosc wrote:
I just like how Blizzard has always said that they made Terran the most versatile because Wings of Liberty was the Terran expansion. So now with HotS, what is Zerg's versatility? Is there anything other than ling/bane/muta that could effectively do anything, or is our versatility nonexistant? Hopefully something will eventually be discovered.


Think about TvP. Sure terran has a few different openers but after that there is no versatility at all for terran. I would say zergs has more options against T than T has against P. I think we should wait for the players to develop the meta and see what happens.


In fact Terran T3 (except ghosts in TvP) is viable in nothing but late-game TvT.

Ravens are pretty common late game TvZ... don't use 'in fact' when you're spouting biased nonsense

This is a lie. I haven't seen any raven being used in TvZ in Proleague. Raven is not cost effective because the spells are not reliable at all.

Bomber uses Ravens in almost every single late game TvZ he plays, usually to great effect as well.

either:
-shit I have too much resource lets dump it into raven
-shit cant beat ultra/whatever strong zerg composition. Lets pray on HSM

yeah thats what I saw of raven in HotS recently
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
April 08 2013 09:43 GMT
#250
zest is a word

it's the topmost layer of citrus fruits like lemon and orange
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
Gh86
Profile Joined June 2011
646 Posts
April 08 2013 09:43 GMT
#251
On April 08 2013 18:42 paradoxOO9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:39 Giriath wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:36 paradoxOO9 wrote:
I think my FPL is screwed either way from today, KT are the team I picked but I have Crazy on my anti, I need everyone bar Crazy to win to pull it to the ace :/


Bisu 4
Innovation 3
Trap 3

Doing well today, and I have KT as my team so I'm hoping for 4-3 STX Soul where Innovation wins the Ace match, for a perfect finish for my FPL today.

I have Innovation as my captain, any chance you could shine some light on would actually be better for my points? This is the first time I have actually done FPL


The score of the captain is only used to determine tiebreakers
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
April 08 2013 09:43 GMT
#252
On April 08 2013 18:40 paradoxOO9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:38 p14c wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:34 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:32 Giriath wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:28 Fjodorov wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:18 Megiddosc wrote:
I just like how Blizzard has always said that they made Terran the most versatile because Wings of Liberty was the Terran expansion. So now with HotS, what is Zerg's versatility? Is there anything other than ling/bane/muta that could effectively do anything, or is our versatility nonexistant? Hopefully something will eventually be discovered.


Think about TvP. Sure terran has a few different openers but after that there is no versatility at all for terran. I would say zergs has more options against T than T has against P. I think we should wait for the players to develop the meta and see what happens.


In fact Terran T3 (except ghosts in TvP) is viable in nothing but late-game TvT.

Ravens are pretty common late game TvZ... don't use 'in fact' when you're spouting biased nonsense

This is a lie. I haven't seen any raven being used in TvZ in Proleague. Raven is not cost effective because the spells are not reliable at all.

Bomber uses Ravens in almost every single late game TvZ he plays, usually to great effect as well.


That's true, I didn't think of Ravens. I think they'll be phased out in favor of more MMMM though, or only see use when the zerg player has gone very heavily into mutas, and even in that scenario they don't add much that more MMMM doesn't, and costs more.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 09:45:32
April 08 2013 09:44 GMT
#253
Oh dear, Whiplash, with your poor pronunciation and frighteningly incomplete vocabulary.
Zest is peel (or the thinnest outside layer of it at least).
"Zesting" is not even a common verb as you can just peel or grate zest.
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 08 2013 09:47 GMT
#254
On April 08 2013 18:43 Giriath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 18:40 paradoxOO9 wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:38 p14c wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:34 Scarecrow wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:32 Giriath wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:28 Fjodorov wrote:
On April 08 2013 18:18 Megiddosc wrote:
I just like how Blizzard has always said that they made Terran the most versatile because Wings of Liberty was the Terran expansion. So now with HotS, what is Zerg's versatility? Is there anything other than ling/bane/muta that could effectively do anything, or is our versatility nonexistant? Hopefully something will eventually be discovered.


Think about TvP. Sure terran has a few different openers but after that there is no versatility at all for terran. I would say zergs has more options against T than T has against P. I think we should wait for the players to develop the meta and see what happens.


In fact Terran T3 (except ghosts in TvP) is viable in nothing but late-game TvT.

Ravens are pretty common late game TvZ... don't use 'in fact' when you're spouting biased nonsense

This is a lie. I haven't seen any raven being used in TvZ in Proleague. Raven is not cost effective because the spells are not reliable at all.

Bomber uses Ravens in almost every single late game TvZ he plays, usually to great effect as well.


That's true, I didn't think of Ravens. I think they'll be phased out in favor of more MMMM though, or only see use when the zerg player has gone very heavily into mutas, and even in that scenario they don't add much that more MMMM doesn't, and costs more.


Ravens are really good against Broodlord-Corruptor compositions because they clump up quite a lot and you spreading them in a fight is pretty difficult. They don't do much against Ultras though and almost nobody goes for Broodlord-based lategame in ZvT anymore in HotS. Having more Marauders or Medivacs is better against Ultras than using your supply on Ravens
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
April 08 2013 09:47 GMT
#255
On April 08 2013 18:36 Arceus wrote:
Supernovamanic looks like Sangho, no?


He's got a little Sangho in him, yes
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
April 08 2013 09:48 GMT
#256
EZ win for Mini
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
April 08 2013 09:48 GMT
#257
gogo STX go for the 4-0!!
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Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 09:48:33
April 08 2013 09:48 GMT
#258
uh oh... getting closer to 4-0 and flash not playing ;_; my fpl would be happy but my heart will be sad if flash doesn't play
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 08 2013 09:48 GMT
#259
Poll: Recommend KT vs STX Set 3?

No (14)
 
67%

If you have time (5)
 
24%

Yes (2)
 
10%

21 total votes

Your vote: Recommend KT vs STX Set 3?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
April 08 2013 09:48 GMT
#260
Hmm, he seems to have been strongest as a Wooki. ಠ_ಠ
ZerO - FantaSy - Calm - Nal_rA - Jaedong - NaDa - EffOrt - Bisu - by.hero - StarDust - Welmu - Nerchio - Supernova - Solar - Squirtle - LosirA - Grubby - IntoTheRainbow - Golden... ~~~ Incredible Miracle and Woongjin Stars 화이팅!
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