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On January 08 2013 22:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 22:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 08 2013 22:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:Hey guys, I have 8 AM labs on Wednesday this semester so there is no way I'll be able to do the threads. Who wants to make the thread for tomorrow's up and down group?  Liquid HerO is playing if that's an incentive for anyone. Please someone do it, can't watch but I have to be updated on HerO's games T_T http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339146¤tpage=13#250The OP is even already made. You just have to bold the names as they win and post some polls :D anyone?
haha. I'll do it, Shellshock
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On January 08 2013 23:11 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 22:42 Shellshock1122 wrote:On January 08 2013 22:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:On January 08 2013 22:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:Hey guys, I have 8 AM labs on Wednesday this semester so there is no way I'll be able to do the threads. Who wants to make the thread for tomorrow's up and down group? Liquid HerO is playing if that's an incentive for anyone. Please someone do it, can't watch but I have to be updated on HerO's games T_T http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339146¤tpage=13#250The OP is even already made. You just have to bold the names as they win and post some polls :D anyone? haha. I'll do it, Shellshock
Wintex saving eSports <3
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Losira's back in code S!!!!
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Just came home from work to see what happened...Grubby got owned hard.I didn't expect much but a 0-5 performance is pretty weak if u ask me...
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not bad losira, didnt expect him to advance at all
i didnt watch the games but i assume he did well
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On January 08 2013 23:20 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Just came home from work to see what happened...Grubby got owned hard.I didn't expect much but a 0-5 performance is pretty weak if u ask me...
Grubby did as well as YongHwa did!
Maybe Artosis can hype grubby up now as the second coming of the Protoss savior.
<3
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Losira, his play style is good even when most of people understand Zerg has some OP "issues" we can see that he has skills. I like Losira, not the best but in general a solid player.
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On January 08 2013 22:53 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 22:45 KOtical wrote:On January 08 2013 22:39 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 08 2013 22:31 Darkshark wrote:
Well at least he was smiling after his lose. I hope, he doesn't take the 0:5 too serious. I really hope that he will imrpve a lot in Korea and comes back strong. There is no coming back. Most fan favourite foreigners are just too old and not good enough to endure the same training that the countless players from esf/kespa do. When the korean players also prepare for a few specific people on known maps, i cant just see any foreigner winning. Maybe Stephano (under 20 years, and quite talented) has a slight chance to make an impact in GSL/SPL, but i really doubt that EG can provide the necessary training enviroment. even stephano will have a hard time in gsl! i think i remeber him telling in an interview that he likes tournaments like MLG, IPL etc. more coz people cant prepare that much than. but in code s he will meet alot of top tier players that are prepared for his playstyle... Yeah, it should be very hard for him to win games. I am really looking forward to see him play in GSL/SPL. (not a fanboy, just curiosity)
This "people will prepare for his style and crush him" argument is silly and quite old if you ask me. Stephano was the pioneer of ZvT and ZvP style for months/years, and noone figured it out(i remember Parting-Hero-MC saying pre-interview in some tournies that they made specific builds to counter Stephano but still got crushed), besides Stephano said he'll be more serious in his practice regime...
Mana got out of his up&downs group, Naniwa made it to ro8 twice, Stephano is more thann capable to do better.
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On January 08 2013 23:05 Wingblade wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 22:39 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 08 2013 22:31 Darkshark wrote:
Well at least he was smiling after his lose. I hope, he doesn't take the 0:5 too serious. I really hope that he will imrpve a lot in Korea and comes back strong. There is no coming back. Most fan favourite foreigners are just too old and not good enough to endure the same training that the countless players from esf/kespa do. When the korean players also prepare for a few specific people on known maps, i cant just see any foreigner winning. Maybe Stephano (under 20 years, and quite talented) has a slight chance to make an impact in GSL/SPL, but i really doubt that EG can provide the necessary training enviroment. Saying something like this feels like it just ignores Grubby's Esports pedigree. If there's any foreigner who can endure the rigorous training required and succeed at the highest level of the game in Korea, I think perhaps maybe one of the best if not the best War3 player can do it. He DEFINITELY has the talent, if he applies it.
I am fine with your statement, i just hope you really dont believe this. Your heart is going to be broken, prepare the ice cream i guess.
The period to shine was before kespa teams switched to sc2, the future is going to be very hard for foreign fan favourites. After the initial hots cheese phase we will see who is left.
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On January 08 2013 23:29 Rhaegar_tar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 22:53 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 08 2013 22:45 KOtical wrote:On January 08 2013 22:39 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 08 2013 22:31 Darkshark wrote:
Well at least he was smiling after his lose. I hope, he doesn't take the 0:5 too serious. I really hope that he will imrpve a lot in Korea and comes back strong. There is no coming back. Most fan favourite foreigners are just too old and not good enough to endure the same training that the countless players from esf/kespa do. When the korean players also prepare for a few specific people on known maps, i cant just see any foreigner winning. Maybe Stephano (under 20 years, and quite talented) has a slight chance to make an impact in GSL/SPL, but i really doubt that EG can provide the necessary training enviroment. even stephano will have a hard time in gsl! i think i remeber him telling in an interview that he likes tournaments like MLG, IPL etc. more coz people cant prepare that much than. but in code s he will meet alot of top tier players that are prepared for his playstyle... Yeah, it should be very hard for him to win games. I am really looking forward to see him play in GSL/SPL. (not a fanboy, just curiosity) This "people will prepare for his style and crush him" argument is silly and quite old if you ask me. Stephano was the pioneer of ZvT and ZvP style for months/years, and noone figured it out(i remember Parting-Hero-MC saying pre-interview in some tournies that they made specific builds to counter Stephano but still got crushed), besides Stephano said he'll be more serious in his practice regime... Mana got out of his up&downs group, Naniwa made it to ro8 twice, Stephano is more thann capable to do better.
You can't really claim an argument is silly and quite old and then imply that Stephano doesn't have a good practice regime. It's well known that Stephano just doesn't like the pressure of being favored in a match and just plays it off saying, oh I didn't practice, haven't played all week, etc etc. It works for him, and that's fine, but if you actually start believing Stephano doesn't practice, you're really gone off the deep end. He masses games as much as the next progamer. His practice regime is just fine.
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On January 08 2013 23:37 Martijn wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 23:29 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On January 08 2013 22:53 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 08 2013 22:45 KOtical wrote:On January 08 2013 22:39 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 08 2013 22:31 Darkshark wrote:
Well at least he was smiling after his lose. I hope, he doesn't take the 0:5 too serious. I really hope that he will imrpve a lot in Korea and comes back strong. There is no coming back. Most fan favourite foreigners are just too old and not good enough to endure the same training that the countless players from esf/kespa do. When the korean players also prepare for a few specific people on known maps, i cant just see any foreigner winning. Maybe Stephano (under 20 years, and quite talented) has a slight chance to make an impact in GSL/SPL, but i really doubt that EG can provide the necessary training enviroment. even stephano will have a hard time in gsl! i think i remeber him telling in an interview that he likes tournaments like MLG, IPL etc. more coz people cant prepare that much than. but in code s he will meet alot of top tier players that are prepared for his playstyle... Yeah, it should be very hard for him to win games. I am really looking forward to see him play in GSL/SPL. (not a fanboy, just curiosity) This "people will prepare for his style and crush him" argument is silly and quite old if you ask me. Stephano was the pioneer of ZvT and ZvP style for months/years, and noone figured it out(i remember Parting-Hero-MC saying pre-interview in some tournies that they made specific builds to counter Stephano but still got crushed), besides Stephano said he'll be more serious in his practice regime... Mana got out of his up&downs group, Naniwa made it to ro8 twice, Stephano is more thann capable to do better. You can't really claim an argument is silly and quite old and then imply that Stephano doesn't have a good practice regime. It's well known that Stephano just doesn't like the pressure of being favored in a match and just plays it off saying, oh I didn't practice, haven't played all week, etc etc. It works for him, and that's fine, but if you actually start believing Stephano doesn't practice, you're really gone off the deep end. He masses games as much as the next progamer. His practice regime is just fine.
I agree with this. Yeah he didn't practice much before WCS and still won, so? HerO hardly played any games at all before NASL and still won with arguably way harder competition so I wouldn't be surprised if that's similar for lots of players. Stephano practices just as much as others, he just doesn't prepare for specific opponents and that's something he's always said and that I actually do believe. It shows in his play. But what else shows in his play is that he does practice a lot.
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zerg OP ;//////
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On January 08 2013 23:29 Rhaegar_tar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 22:53 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 08 2013 22:45 KOtical wrote:On January 08 2013 22:39 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 08 2013 22:31 Darkshark wrote:
Well at least he was smiling after his lose. I hope, he doesn't take the 0:5 too serious. I really hope that he will imrpve a lot in Korea and comes back strong. There is no coming back. Most fan favourite foreigners are just too old and not good enough to endure the same training that the countless players from esf/kespa do. When the korean players also prepare for a few specific people on known maps, i cant just see any foreigner winning. Maybe Stephano (under 20 years, and quite talented) has a slight chance to make an impact in GSL/SPL, but i really doubt that EG can provide the necessary training enviroment. even stephano will have a hard time in gsl! i think i remeber him telling in an interview that he likes tournaments like MLG, IPL etc. more coz people cant prepare that much than. but in code s he will meet alot of top tier players that are prepared for his playstyle... Yeah, it should be very hard for him to win games. I am really looking forward to see him play in GSL/SPL. (not a fanboy, just curiosity) This "people will prepare for his style and crush him" argument is silly and quite old if you ask me. Stephano was the pioneer of ZvT and ZvP style for months/years, and noone figured it out(i remember Parting-Hero-MC saying pre-interview in some tournies that they made specific builds to counter Stephano but still got crushed), besides Stephano said he'll be more serious in his practice regime... Mana got out of his up&downs group, Naniwa made it to ro8 twice, Stephano is more thann capable to do better.
well he did say this himself... but this was some time ago
so i think he feels ready for GSL now... well let´s see what happens... but i still think he wont make it that far... but im happy if he prooves me wrong xD
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Ah Grubby didn´t win at least one match -.- Poor guy. At least Huk is now aware that he will not be the only one who gets crushed. Don´t know why he even participates. But good luck to him!
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LOSIRAAAAAAAAA! WOOOOOOOOO!
SO PUMPED!
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I am not surprised that Grubby did not make it because it is a very tough group to begin with, but I am surprised that he went 0-5. How were his games? Were they close matches or was he completely dominated? I feel sad
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On January 08 2013 23:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2013 23:37 Martijn wrote:On January 08 2013 23:29 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On January 08 2013 22:53 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 08 2013 22:45 KOtical wrote:On January 08 2013 22:39 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On January 08 2013 22:31 Darkshark wrote:
Well at least he was smiling after his lose. I hope, he doesn't take the 0:5 too serious. I really hope that he will imrpve a lot in Korea and comes back strong. There is no coming back. Most fan favourite foreigners are just too old and not good enough to endure the same training that the countless players from esf/kespa do. When the korean players also prepare for a few specific people on known maps, i cant just see any foreigner winning. Maybe Stephano (under 20 years, and quite talented) has a slight chance to make an impact in GSL/SPL, but i really doubt that EG can provide the necessary training enviroment. even stephano will have a hard time in gsl! i think i remeber him telling in an interview that he likes tournaments like MLG, IPL etc. more coz people cant prepare that much than. but in code s he will meet alot of top tier players that are prepared for his playstyle... Yeah, it should be very hard for him to win games. I am really looking forward to see him play in GSL/SPL. (not a fanboy, just curiosity) This "people will prepare for his style and crush him" argument is silly and quite old if you ask me. Stephano was the pioneer of ZvT and ZvP style for months/years, and noone figured it out(i remember Parting-Hero-MC saying pre-interview in some tournies that they made specific builds to counter Stephano but still got crushed), besides Stephano said he'll be more serious in his practice regime... Mana got out of his up&downs group, Naniwa made it to ro8 twice, Stephano is more thann capable to do better. You can't really claim an argument is silly and quite old and then imply that Stephano doesn't have a good practice regime. It's well known that Stephano just doesn't like the pressure of being favored in a match and just plays it off saying, oh I didn't practice, haven't played all week, etc etc. It works for him, and that's fine, but if you actually start believing Stephano doesn't practice, you're really gone off the deep end. He masses games as much as the next progamer. His practice regime is just fine. I agree with this. Yeah he didn't practice much before WCS and still won, so? HerO hardly played any games at all before NASL and still won with arguably way harder competition so I wouldn't be surprised if that's similar for lots of players. Stephano practices just as much as others, he just doesn't prepare for specific opponents and that's something he's always said and that I actually do believe. It shows in his play. But what else shows in his play is that he does practice a lot.
What makes you think he practices as much as others?
He says he doesn't. Most pro/caster agree with this statement. His accounts show very little practice.
Of course you can say that everyone is lying to us and he has a secret account that nobody ever heard of, but that seems very unlikely to me.
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