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Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
January 08 2013 15:32 GMT
#1121
Pretty happy DRG made it out, but then Grubby went 0-5. Disappointing
SarkON
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation117 Posts
January 08 2013 15:37 GMT
#1122
Was so excited about Grubby's participation. I'm always excited when he takes part in any tournament.
My guess that viewership count suffers a lot when a guy like Grubby goes 0-5 and this is not a good thing.

I'm wondering what will happen if foreigners stop qualifying and winning in big tournaments. It may spell the end for SC2 support by big organizations / sponsors in favor of other uprising games such as Dota2...

Who Dares Wins...
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
January 08 2013 15:40 GMT
#1123
fucking awesome, two of my favorite zergs made it! too bad about grubby though >_>
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 15:50:06
January 08 2013 15:44 GMT
#1124
On January 09 2013 00:30 Thurken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 23:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 08 2013 23:37 Martijn wrote:
On January 08 2013 23:29 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:53 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:45 KOtical wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:39 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:31 Darkshark wrote:
Well at least he was smiling after his lose. I hope, he doesn't take the 0:5 too serious. I really hope that he will imrpve a lot in Korea and comes back strong.


There is no coming back. Most fan favourite foreigners are just too old and not good enough to endure the same training that the countless players from esf/kespa do.
When the korean players also prepare for a few specific people on known maps, i cant just see any foreigner winning. Maybe Stephano (under 20 years, and quite talented) has a slight chance to make an impact in GSL/SPL, but i really doubt that EG can provide the necessary training enviroment.


even stephano will have a hard time in gsl! i think i remeber him telling in an interview that he likes tournaments like MLG, IPL etc. more coz people cant prepare that much than. but in code s he will meet alot of top tier players that are prepared for his playstyle...


Yeah, it should be very hard for him to win games. I am really looking forward to see him play in GSL/SPL. (not a fanboy, just curiosity)

This "people will prepare for his style and crush him" argument is silly and quite old if you ask me. Stephano was the pioneer of ZvT and ZvP style for months/years, and noone figured it out(i remember Parting-Hero-MC saying pre-interview in some tournies that they made specific builds to counter Stephano but still got crushed), besides Stephano said he'll be more serious in his practice regime...

Mana got out of his up&downs group, Naniwa made it to ro8 twice, Stephano is more thann capable to do better.


You can't really claim an argument is silly and quite old and then imply that Stephano doesn't have a good practice regime. It's well known that Stephano just doesn't like the pressure of being favored in a match and just plays it off saying, oh I didn't practice, haven't played all week, etc etc. It works for him, and that's fine, but if you actually start believing Stephano doesn't practice, you're really gone off the deep end. He masses games as much as the next progamer. His practice regime is just fine.


I agree with this. Yeah he didn't practice much before WCS and still won, so? HerO hardly played any games at all before NASL and still won with arguably way harder competition so I wouldn't be surprised if that's similar for lots of players. Stephano practices just as much as others, he just doesn't prepare for specific opponents and that's something he's always said and that I actually do believe. It shows in his play. But what else shows in his play is that he does practice a lot.


What makes you think he practices as much as others?
He says he doesn't. Most pro/caster agree with this statement. His accounts show very little practice.
Of course you can say that everyone is lying to us and he has a secret account that nobody ever heard of, but that seems very unlikely to me.


Actually no. Most pro's know he practices. The casters love blowing it up for dramatic effect, but most should know better.
Edit: Hell, you can tell from his slump late November when he was playing tournaments/traveling too much. If normally he doesn't practice normally, you'd expect him to improve with a heavy tournament schedule, not vice versa..
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 08 2013 15:44 GMT
#1125
Losira! :3c
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 08 2013 15:47 GMT
#1126
I know how a lot of people are saying this Bo1 format is volatile and the best players might not always make it.

But if you look at the results so far

Yoda - Not a code S main stay but this is his 3rd consecutive season in Code S
MC - Has been slumping and wasn't in Code S last season but still a code S main stay
Taeja - Code S main stay
Squirtle - Code S main stay
DRG - Code S main stay
LosirA - probably the most 'surprising' member of the group

There are so many good players now (especially with Kespa) that Code S might not be able to fit them all. But it is hard to argue that the any of the players that have made it in so far are 'undeserving'.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 08 2013 16:01 GMT
#1127
On January 09 2013 00:30 Thurken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 23:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 08 2013 23:37 Martijn wrote:
On January 08 2013 23:29 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:53 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:45 KOtical wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:39 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:31 Darkshark wrote:
Well at least he was smiling after his lose. I hope, he doesn't take the 0:5 too serious. I really hope that he will imrpve a lot in Korea and comes back strong.


There is no coming back. Most fan favourite foreigners are just too old and not good enough to endure the same training that the countless players from esf/kespa do.
When the korean players also prepare for a few specific people on known maps, i cant just see any foreigner winning. Maybe Stephano (under 20 years, and quite talented) has a slight chance to make an impact in GSL/SPL, but i really doubt that EG can provide the necessary training enviroment.


even stephano will have a hard time in gsl! i think i remeber him telling in an interview that he likes tournaments like MLG, IPL etc. more coz people cant prepare that much than. but in code s he will meet alot of top tier players that are prepared for his playstyle...


Yeah, it should be very hard for him to win games. I am really looking forward to see him play in GSL/SPL. (not a fanboy, just curiosity)

This "people will prepare for his style and crush him" argument is silly and quite old if you ask me. Stephano was the pioneer of ZvT and ZvP style for months/years, and noone figured it out(i remember Parting-Hero-MC saying pre-interview in some tournies that they made specific builds to counter Stephano but still got crushed), besides Stephano said he'll be more serious in his practice regime...

Mana got out of his up&downs group, Naniwa made it to ro8 twice, Stephano is more thann capable to do better.


You can't really claim an argument is silly and quite old and then imply that Stephano doesn't have a good practice regime. It's well known that Stephano just doesn't like the pressure of being favored in a match and just plays it off saying, oh I didn't practice, haven't played all week, etc etc. It works for him, and that's fine, but if you actually start believing Stephano doesn't practice, you're really gone off the deep end. He masses games as much as the next progamer. His practice regime is just fine.


I agree with this. Yeah he didn't practice much before WCS and still won, so? HerO hardly played any games at all before NASL and still won with arguably way harder competition so I wouldn't be surprised if that's similar for lots of players. Stephano practices just as much as others, he just doesn't prepare for specific opponents and that's something he's always said and that I actually do believe. It shows in his play. But what else shows in his play is that he does practice a lot.


What makes you think he practices as much as others?
He says he doesn't. Most pro/caster agree with this statement. His accounts show very little practice.
Of course you can say that everyone is lying to us and he has a secret account that nobody ever heard of, but that seems very unlikely to me.


Actually most players have secret smurf accounts, most of them barcodes. I'd be 0% surprised if Stephano had one.
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sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 08 2013 16:09 GMT
#1128
On January 08 2013 22:35 GaliX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 22:31 Assirra wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:29 GaliX wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:28 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I feel like Grubby shouldn't have lost this game.


welcome to PvZ where winning is harder.

That was Grubby making mistakes rather then PvZ tough.
Where was the zealot to block the zerglings? Why not attack when you are already behind and its a matter of time before you are overwhelmed?



As I said. I dont get the match up. You have to play 100% to win a PvZ

While Zerg can be sloppy an lose like 2000 minerals in the beginning and still put down the 4th while forcing chancel on the Protoss 3rd.

As long as you not cheesing hard, the Zerg player will always find a hole in your wall.


Grubby lost to the Terran and Protoss in the group as well. Maybe, just maybe, he was the worst player here and was outclassed? Just a thought.
Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
January 08 2013 16:11 GMT
#1129
Extremely stupid results. Congratz to the players of course, but I fear we will have Code Z playoffs again...
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 08 2013 16:12 GMT
#1130
Darn if that isn't completely what I didn't predict. :/
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
January 08 2013 16:15 GMT
#1131
On January 09 2013 01:11 Bahajinbo wrote:
Extremely stupid results. Congratz to the players of course, but I fear we will have Code Z playoffs again...

Nah we wont, as seen so many times before the korean terrans always adapt although the game might not be in its finest state right now. Im worried about the protoss though!
"NO" -Has
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
January 08 2013 16:20 GMT
#1132
Huk will get 5-0'd, Stephano will drop from Code S and yet again I will scratch my head as to why seeds were given out when dozens of more talented Koreans are working their asses off day in and day out for no pay for a shot.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
January 08 2013 16:23 GMT
#1133
On January 09 2013 01:11 Bahajinbo wrote:
Extremely stupid results. Congratz to the players of course, but I fear we will have Code Z playoffs again...

It's extremely stupid that the three historically most successful players in the group advanced (to Code S or the wildcard group)? Among the players who didn't advance there's only a single Code S appearance, with Bbyong's Ro32 finish. Sometimes you have to look beyond the icons next to the players' names.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 16:43:43
January 08 2013 16:30 GMT
#1134
On January 09 2013 01:20 decado90 wrote:
Huk will get 5-0'd, Stephano will drop from Code S and yet again I will scratch my head as to why seeds were given out when dozens of more talented Koreans are working their asses off day in and day out for no pay for a shot.


Because it is good for business?

How many people will subscribe just to watch Stephano?

Will it upset some people who feel this is 'unfair'? Probably. But to the point where they will not subscribe JUST because of that? I don't think too many. You could also say it was unfair for players like DRG and MC that got a Code S seed from MLG in 2011. Because not all the Koreans were invited or their teams could afford to send them. That is how things work some times. Honestly, out of all the foreign seeds, Stephano's has been the easiest to justify.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 08 2013 16:30 GMT
#1135
I think there could potentially be more Zergs in Code S this season than Terrans, for the first time in the history of GSL. I can imagine the whining if that comes to pass. :p
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 16:41:14
January 08 2013 16:41 GMT
#1136
On January 09 2013 00:17 bsdaemon wrote:
I am not surprised that Grubby did not make it because it is a very tough group to begin with, but I am surprised that he went 0-5. How were his games? Were they close matches or was he completely dominated? I feel sad


He got completely obliterated.

Not a single one of his games were close, he got severely outclassed.
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 08 2013 16:41 GMT
#1137
On January 09 2013 01:20 decado90 wrote:
Huk will get 5-0'd

that's gonna be embarassing if it happens. he's in the weakest group BY FAR.
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 08 2013 16:46 GMT
#1138
On January 09 2013 01:41 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 01:20 decado90 wrote:
Huk will get 5-0'd

that's gonna be embarassing if it happens. he's in the weakest group BY FAR.


Well, I think he has a shot at winning games. But he is probably the underdog in all his match.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
January 08 2013 16:46 GMT
#1139
yay losicat!
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Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
January 08 2013 17:08 GMT
#1140
Poor Grubby . Was cheering for him to win. Would it be possible to have TL recruit Grubby? He'd do really well in the lab.
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