• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:44
CEST 07:44
KST 14:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments1[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes139BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues
Tourneys
Stellar Fest KSL Week 80 StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion BW General Discussion Diplomacy, Cosmonarchy Edition Soulkey on ASL S20 ASL TICKET LIVE help! :D
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1645 users

[Up/Down] Group C 2013 GSL Season 1 - Page 57

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 55 56 57 58 59 Next
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
January 08 2013 15:32 GMT
#1121
Pretty happy DRG made it out, but then Grubby went 0-5. Disappointing
SarkON
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation117 Posts
January 08 2013 15:37 GMT
#1122
Was so excited about Grubby's participation. I'm always excited when he takes part in any tournament.
My guess that viewership count suffers a lot when a guy like Grubby goes 0-5 and this is not a good thing.

I'm wondering what will happen if foreigners stop qualifying and winning in big tournaments. It may spell the end for SC2 support by big organizations / sponsors in favor of other uprising games such as Dota2...

Who Dares Wins...
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
January 08 2013 15:40 GMT
#1123
fucking awesome, two of my favorite zergs made it! too bad about grubby though >_>
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 15:50:06
January 08 2013 15:44 GMT
#1124
On January 09 2013 00:30 Thurken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 23:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 08 2013 23:37 Martijn wrote:
On January 08 2013 23:29 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:53 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:45 KOtical wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:39 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:31 Darkshark wrote:
Well at least he was smiling after his lose. I hope, he doesn't take the 0:5 too serious. I really hope that he will imrpve a lot in Korea and comes back strong.


There is no coming back. Most fan favourite foreigners are just too old and not good enough to endure the same training that the countless players from esf/kespa do.
When the korean players also prepare for a few specific people on known maps, i cant just see any foreigner winning. Maybe Stephano (under 20 years, and quite talented) has a slight chance to make an impact in GSL/SPL, but i really doubt that EG can provide the necessary training enviroment.


even stephano will have a hard time in gsl! i think i remeber him telling in an interview that he likes tournaments like MLG, IPL etc. more coz people cant prepare that much than. but in code s he will meet alot of top tier players that are prepared for his playstyle...


Yeah, it should be very hard for him to win games. I am really looking forward to see him play in GSL/SPL. (not a fanboy, just curiosity)

This "people will prepare for his style and crush him" argument is silly and quite old if you ask me. Stephano was the pioneer of ZvT and ZvP style for months/years, and noone figured it out(i remember Parting-Hero-MC saying pre-interview in some tournies that they made specific builds to counter Stephano but still got crushed), besides Stephano said he'll be more serious in his practice regime...

Mana got out of his up&downs group, Naniwa made it to ro8 twice, Stephano is more thann capable to do better.


You can't really claim an argument is silly and quite old and then imply that Stephano doesn't have a good practice regime. It's well known that Stephano just doesn't like the pressure of being favored in a match and just plays it off saying, oh I didn't practice, haven't played all week, etc etc. It works for him, and that's fine, but if you actually start believing Stephano doesn't practice, you're really gone off the deep end. He masses games as much as the next progamer. His practice regime is just fine.


I agree with this. Yeah he didn't practice much before WCS and still won, so? HerO hardly played any games at all before NASL and still won with arguably way harder competition so I wouldn't be surprised if that's similar for lots of players. Stephano practices just as much as others, he just doesn't prepare for specific opponents and that's something he's always said and that I actually do believe. It shows in his play. But what else shows in his play is that he does practice a lot.


What makes you think he practices as much as others?
He says he doesn't. Most pro/caster agree with this statement. His accounts show very little practice.
Of course you can say that everyone is lying to us and he has a secret account that nobody ever heard of, but that seems very unlikely to me.


Actually no. Most pro's know he practices. The casters love blowing it up for dramatic effect, but most should know better.
Edit: Hell, you can tell from his slump late November when he was playing tournaments/traveling too much. If normally he doesn't practice normally, you'd expect him to improve with a heavy tournament schedule, not vice versa..
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
January 08 2013 15:44 GMT
#1125
Losira! :3c
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 08 2013 15:47 GMT
#1126
I know how a lot of people are saying this Bo1 format is volatile and the best players might not always make it.

But if you look at the results so far

Yoda - Not a code S main stay but this is his 3rd consecutive season in Code S
MC - Has been slumping and wasn't in Code S last season but still a code S main stay
Taeja - Code S main stay
Squirtle - Code S main stay
DRG - Code S main stay
LosirA - probably the most 'surprising' member of the group

There are so many good players now (especially with Kespa) that Code S might not be able to fit them all. But it is hard to argue that the any of the players that have made it in so far are 'undeserving'.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
January 08 2013 16:01 GMT
#1127
On January 09 2013 00:30 Thurken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 23:40 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On January 08 2013 23:37 Martijn wrote:
On January 08 2013 23:29 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:53 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:45 KOtical wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:39 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:31 Darkshark wrote:
Well at least he was smiling after his lose. I hope, he doesn't take the 0:5 too serious. I really hope that he will imrpve a lot in Korea and comes back strong.


There is no coming back. Most fan favourite foreigners are just too old and not good enough to endure the same training that the countless players from esf/kespa do.
When the korean players also prepare for a few specific people on known maps, i cant just see any foreigner winning. Maybe Stephano (under 20 years, and quite talented) has a slight chance to make an impact in GSL/SPL, but i really doubt that EG can provide the necessary training enviroment.


even stephano will have a hard time in gsl! i think i remeber him telling in an interview that he likes tournaments like MLG, IPL etc. more coz people cant prepare that much than. but in code s he will meet alot of top tier players that are prepared for his playstyle...


Yeah, it should be very hard for him to win games. I am really looking forward to see him play in GSL/SPL. (not a fanboy, just curiosity)

This "people will prepare for his style and crush him" argument is silly and quite old if you ask me. Stephano was the pioneer of ZvT and ZvP style for months/years, and noone figured it out(i remember Parting-Hero-MC saying pre-interview in some tournies that they made specific builds to counter Stephano but still got crushed), besides Stephano said he'll be more serious in his practice regime...

Mana got out of his up&downs group, Naniwa made it to ro8 twice, Stephano is more thann capable to do better.


You can't really claim an argument is silly and quite old and then imply that Stephano doesn't have a good practice regime. It's well known that Stephano just doesn't like the pressure of being favored in a match and just plays it off saying, oh I didn't practice, haven't played all week, etc etc. It works for him, and that's fine, but if you actually start believing Stephano doesn't practice, you're really gone off the deep end. He masses games as much as the next progamer. His practice regime is just fine.


I agree with this. Yeah he didn't practice much before WCS and still won, so? HerO hardly played any games at all before NASL and still won with arguably way harder competition so I wouldn't be surprised if that's similar for lots of players. Stephano practices just as much as others, he just doesn't prepare for specific opponents and that's something he's always said and that I actually do believe. It shows in his play. But what else shows in his play is that he does practice a lot.


What makes you think he practices as much as others?
He says he doesn't. Most pro/caster agree with this statement. His accounts show very little practice.
Of course you can say that everyone is lying to us and he has a secret account that nobody ever heard of, but that seems very unlikely to me.


Actually most players have secret smurf accounts, most of them barcodes. I'd be 0% surprised if Stephano had one.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 08 2013 16:09 GMT
#1128
On January 08 2013 22:35 GaliX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 22:31 Assirra wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:29 GaliX wrote:
On January 08 2013 22:28 RPR_Tempest wrote:
I feel like Grubby shouldn't have lost this game.


welcome to PvZ where winning is harder.

That was Grubby making mistakes rather then PvZ tough.
Where was the zealot to block the zerglings? Why not attack when you are already behind and its a matter of time before you are overwhelmed?



As I said. I dont get the match up. You have to play 100% to win a PvZ

While Zerg can be sloppy an lose like 2000 minerals in the beginning and still put down the 4th while forcing chancel on the Protoss 3rd.

As long as you not cheesing hard, the Zerg player will always find a hole in your wall.


Grubby lost to the Terran and Protoss in the group as well. Maybe, just maybe, he was the worst player here and was outclassed? Just a thought.
Bahajinbo
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany488 Posts
January 08 2013 16:11 GMT
#1129
Extremely stupid results. Congratz to the players of course, but I fear we will have Code Z playoffs again...
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 08 2013 16:12 GMT
#1130
Darn if that isn't completely what I didn't predict. :/
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
January 08 2013 16:15 GMT
#1131
On January 09 2013 01:11 Bahajinbo wrote:
Extremely stupid results. Congratz to the players of course, but I fear we will have Code Z playoffs again...

Nah we wont, as seen so many times before the korean terrans always adapt although the game might not be in its finest state right now. Im worried about the protoss though!
"NO" -Has
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
January 08 2013 16:20 GMT
#1132
Huk will get 5-0'd, Stephano will drop from Code S and yet again I will scratch my head as to why seeds were given out when dozens of more talented Koreans are working their asses off day in and day out for no pay for a shot.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
January 08 2013 16:23 GMT
#1133
On January 09 2013 01:11 Bahajinbo wrote:
Extremely stupid results. Congratz to the players of course, but I fear we will have Code Z playoffs again...

It's extremely stupid that the three historically most successful players in the group advanced (to Code S or the wildcard group)? Among the players who didn't advance there's only a single Code S appearance, with Bbyong's Ro32 finish. Sometimes you have to look beyond the icons next to the players' names.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 16:43:43
January 08 2013 16:30 GMT
#1134
On January 09 2013 01:20 decado90 wrote:
Huk will get 5-0'd, Stephano will drop from Code S and yet again I will scratch my head as to why seeds were given out when dozens of more talented Koreans are working their asses off day in and day out for no pay for a shot.


Because it is good for business?

How many people will subscribe just to watch Stephano?

Will it upset some people who feel this is 'unfair'? Probably. But to the point where they will not subscribe JUST because of that? I don't think too many. You could also say it was unfair for players like DRG and MC that got a Code S seed from MLG in 2011. Because not all the Koreans were invited or their teams could afford to send them. That is how things work some times. Honestly, out of all the foreign seeds, Stephano's has been the easiest to justify.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 08 2013 16:30 GMT
#1135
I think there could potentially be more Zergs in Code S this season than Terrans, for the first time in the history of GSL. I can imagine the whining if that comes to pass. :p
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 16:41:14
January 08 2013 16:41 GMT
#1136
On January 09 2013 00:17 bsdaemon wrote:
I am not surprised that Grubby did not make it because it is a very tough group to begin with, but I am surprised that he went 0-5. How were his games? Were they close matches or was he completely dominated? I feel sad


He got completely obliterated.

Not a single one of his games were close, he got severely outclassed.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
January 08 2013 16:41 GMT
#1137
On January 09 2013 01:20 decado90 wrote:
Huk will get 5-0'd

that's gonna be embarassing if it happens. he's in the weakest group BY FAR.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 08 2013 16:46 GMT
#1138
On January 09 2013 01:41 Schelim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 01:20 decado90 wrote:
Huk will get 5-0'd

that's gonna be embarassing if it happens. he's in the weakest group BY FAR.


Well, I think he has a shot at winning games. But he is probably the underdog in all his match.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
January 08 2013 16:46 GMT
#1139
yay losicat!
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Dr.Sin
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1126 Posts
January 08 2013 17:08 GMT
#1140
Poor Grubby . Was cheering for him to win. Would it be possible to have TL recruit Grubby? He'd do really well in the lab.
Prev 1 55 56 57 58 59 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Korean StarCraft League
03:00
Week 80
CranKy Ducklings117
EnkiAlexander 49
davetesta43
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft685
Nina 162
kaitlyn57
StarCraft: Brood War
Leta 638
hero 512
PianO 118
Nal_rA 98
sorry 66
Noble 37
Bale 12
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm152
League of Legends
JimRising 652
Cuddl3bear5
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K742
semphis_36
Other Games
summit1g5777
C9.Mang0384
Maynarde163
Trikslyr44
ViBE17
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick971
BasetradeTV13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH304
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt524
Upcoming Events
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
2h 16m
RSL Revival
4h 16m
Reynor vs Cure
TBD vs Zoun
OSC
15h 16m
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
1d 2h
RSL Revival
1d 4h
Classic vs TBD
WardiTV Invitational
1d 5h
Online Event
1d 10h
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.