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NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
December 16 2012 09:03 GMT
#2221
Just because something is out of place, doesn't mean you have to force a joke out of it. TB.
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
Zhou
Profile Joined February 2009
United States832 Posts
December 16 2012 09:03 GMT
#2222
Someone needs to tell Effort about how sad the Hydra is until next year... =S
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 16 2012 09:03 GMT
#2223
--- Nuked ---
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 16 2012 09:03 GMT
#2224
I just got up, should I interpret the state of the LR as effort is losing?

My fantasy team will be most pleased if he is.
Glorious SEA doto
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2225
On December 16 2012 18:02 Khaldor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:00 Havik_ wrote:
So this is why Effort is 1-11 in ZvP.


He isnt, his PvZ record is actually pretty good. Where do you guys get your stats from t_T


it's what TB said on stream
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Khaldor
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany861 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2226
On December 16 2012 18:03 shabby wrote:
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On December 16 2012 18:02 Khaldor wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:00 Havik_ wrote:
So this is why Effort is 1-11 in ZvP.


He isnt, his PvZ record is actually pretty good. Where do you guys get your stats from t_T


TLPD says 1-10 for him .


Then TLPD should maybe make a bit more of an effort recording games: http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/players/1462-effort
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Vekalisk
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Australia137 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2227
I feel JYP is giving effort almost too much respect.
Twitter: @Vekalisk
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2228
datta boy
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2229
On December 16 2012 18:03 Fusilero wrote:
I just got up, should I interpret the state of the LR as effort is losing?

My fantasy team will be most pleased if he is.

He definitely is losing.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2230
Thataboy JYP!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25133 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2231
On December 16 2012 18:02 Khaldor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:00 Havik_ wrote:
So this is why Effort is 1-11 in ZvP.


He isnt, his PvZ record is actually pretty good. Where do you guys get your stats from t_T

I think that's his record on Korean TLPD.

I asked earlier, someone was quoting some pretty solid ZvP results from EffOrt in the MLG/Kespa tournament. I know there were a lot of forfeits, wasn't sure if those were all series that were played.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2232
Wow JYP! This is better than I expected!
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2233
Koreans get to manner bm their opponent, foreigners get to gg.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 09:05:32
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2234
Haha manner nexus

Gogo EG-TL!
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2235
manner nexus, i'm fucking dying over here. lol
The doctors gave me 9 months to live, ]BIG[ gave me a life time.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2236
EG saving the day
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2237
If they bring out Jaedong my anti team will wreck me this week.

again
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Vanadium
Profile Joined December 2012
481 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2238
On December 16 2012 17:59 Exarl25 wrote:
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On December 16 2012 17:56 monkybone wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:54 Exarl25 wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:51 monkybone wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:48 andaylin wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:46 monkybone wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:44 andaylin wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:42 monkybone wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:34 monkybone wrote:
[quote]

Not when the metagame is thrown out the window.


especially when the metagame is thrown out of the window.


No, strategic depth is developed when existing strategies are played out in relation to new ones. This generates the layers of strategy that constitutes the metagame. When the metagame is non-existent, everything is gimmick, and strategy is shallow. There is no depth.

Lol, this is funny. let's just keep making GSL formula maps and play that all day.


So you're implying that every non-GSL map do not allow the metagame to play out? That is ridiculous, new maps are fine. Not wonky maps though, not for a legitimate competitive game.

Oh please stop with the metagame thing. I don't want to see the same shit every game and it's obvious these new maps are being well received. Watch some games on the map before you say if doesn't produce competitive games.


Sure, if all you're interested in is entertaining games. A competitive RTS is more about entertainment, there is supposed to be a developed strategic skillset involved. That's what keeps it interesting in the long run anyway.


Mindlessly doing the exact same cookie cutter build every single game on every single map is not a developed strategic skillset. Here we see those who prepare for a map, come up with their own strategies, actually adapt and play smart are those who do well.


Playing the metagame is nothing like doing the exact same old cookie cutter build... You have no idea what you're talking about.


These days it is. Sure it's important to have some degree of consistency to allow a metagame to develop. But what we see in SC2 now is not a developing metagame, it's stagnation. Every game plays out the same, every map plays out the same. It's boring as shit. You need to keep things fresh and reward innovation.

Some crazy new maps to shake things up a bit are a very welcome addition and long overdue. The overwhelmingly favorable response should be proof enough of that.


I don't think we ought to conflate his point on the metagame with the fact that the current metagame is stale. These are separate issues. I don't think his point was ever that there should never be new maps, it's that really odd maps can be gimmicky, which is something that COULD happen to Arkanoid. Some clever player might just figure out the map, and then it'll be a never-ending litany of mirror matchups with the same build. This is just as bad of a metagame.
iyoume
Profile Joined May 2011
2501 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2239
manner nexus <3 always love it
BeSt <3 | HoeJJa | Leta :: team Polt
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2240
Effort just trying bits of all zerg tech to see if anything would work.
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