• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 08:35
CEST 14:35
KST 21:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals7Code S RO12 Preview: Maru, Trigger, Rogue, NightMare12Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, sOs, Reynor, Solar15[ASL19] Ro8 Preview: Unyielding3Official Ladder Map Pool Update (April 28, 2025)17
Community News
Dark to begin military service on May 13th (2025)16Weekly Cups (May 5-11): New 2v2 Champs1Maru & Rogue GSL RO12 interviews: "I think the pressure really got to [trigger]"5Code S Season 1 - Maru & Rogue advance to RO80Code S Season 1 - Cure & Reynor advance to RO84
StarCraft 2
General
How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Dark to begin military service on May 13th (2025) I hope balance council is prepping final balance Map Pool Suggestion: Throwback ERA 2024/25 Off-Season Roster Moves
Tourneys
[GSL 2025] Code S:Season 1 - RO12 - Group B Monday Nights Weeklies Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament [GSL 2025] Code S:Season 1 - RO12 - Group A $1,250 WardiTV May [May 6th-May 18th]
Strategy
[G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void Mutation # 472 Dead Heat Mutation # 471 Delivery Guaranteed Mutation # 470 Certain Demise
Brood War
General
RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site BW General Discussion [ASL19] Ro4 Preview: Storied Rivals BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Battlenet Game Lobby Simulator
Tourneys
[ASL19] Semifinal B [ASL19] Semifinal A BSL Nation Wars 2 - Grand Finals - Saturday 21:00 [ASL19] Ro8 Day 4
Strategy
[G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Creating a full chart of Zerg builds [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread What do you want from future RTS games? Nintendo Switch Thread Grand Theft Auto VI Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Books] Wool by Hugh Howey Surprisingly good films/Hidden Gems
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Why 5v5 Games Keep Us Hooked…
TrAiDoS
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
WombaT’s Old BW Terran Theme …
WombaT
Heero Yuy & the Tax…
KrillinFromwales
BW PvZ Balance hypothetic…
Vasoline73
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 14964 users

[SPL] CJ Entus vs. EG-TL R1 - Page 112

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 110 111 112 113 114 159 Next
NExt
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1651 Posts
December 16 2012 09:03 GMT
#2221
Just because something is out of place, doesn't mean you have to force a joke out of it. TB.
Waiting for Protoss Jesus
Zhou
Profile Joined February 2009
United States832 Posts
December 16 2012 09:03 GMT
#2222
Someone needs to tell Effort about how sad the Hydra is until next year... =S
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 16 2012 09:03 GMT
#2223
--- Nuked ---
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 16 2012 09:03 GMT
#2224
I just got up, should I interpret the state of the LR as effort is losing?

My fantasy team will be most pleased if he is.
Glorious SEA doto
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2225
On December 16 2012 18:02 Khaldor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:00 Havik_ wrote:
So this is why Effort is 1-11 in ZvP.


He isnt, his PvZ record is actually pretty good. Where do you guys get your stats from t_T


it's what TB said on stream
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Khaldor
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany861 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2226
On December 16 2012 18:03 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:02 Khaldor wrote:
On December 16 2012 18:00 Havik_ wrote:
So this is why Effort is 1-11 in ZvP.


He isnt, his PvZ record is actually pretty good. Where do you guys get your stats from t_T


TLPD says 1-10 for him .


Then TLPD should maybe make a bit more of an effort recording games: http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/players/1462-effort
Tutorials, Quick Tips and Guides: www.YouTube.com/KhaldorTV
Vekalisk
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Australia137 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2227
I feel JYP is giving effort almost too much respect.
Twitter: @Vekalisk
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2228
datta boy
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2229
On December 16 2012 18:03 Fusilero wrote:
I just got up, should I interpret the state of the LR as effort is losing?

My fantasy team will be most pleased if he is.

He definitely is losing.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2230
Thataboy JYP!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24410 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2231
On December 16 2012 18:02 Khaldor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 18:00 Havik_ wrote:
So this is why Effort is 1-11 in ZvP.


He isnt, his PvZ record is actually pretty good. Where do you guys get your stats from t_T

I think that's his record on Korean TLPD.

I asked earlier, someone was quoting some pretty solid ZvP results from EffOrt in the MLG/Kespa tournament. I know there were a lot of forfeits, wasn't sure if those were all series that were played.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2232
Wow JYP! This is better than I expected!
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2233
Koreans get to manner bm their opponent, foreigners get to gg.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
AbuntuGuntu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 09:05:32
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2234
Haha manner nexus

Gogo EG-TL!
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2235
manner nexus, i'm fucking dying over here. lol
The doctors gave me 9 months to live, ]BIG[ gave me a life time.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2236
EG saving the day
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2237
If they bring out Jaedong my anti team will wreck me this week.

again
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
Vanadium
Profile Joined December 2012
481 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2238
On December 16 2012 17:59 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 17:56 monkybone wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:54 Exarl25 wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:51 monkybone wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:48 andaylin wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:46 monkybone wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:44 andaylin wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:42 monkybone wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:34 monkybone wrote:
[quote]

Not when the metagame is thrown out the window.


especially when the metagame is thrown out of the window.


No, strategic depth is developed when existing strategies are played out in relation to new ones. This generates the layers of strategy that constitutes the metagame. When the metagame is non-existent, everything is gimmick, and strategy is shallow. There is no depth.

Lol, this is funny. let's just keep making GSL formula maps and play that all day.


So you're implying that every non-GSL map do not allow the metagame to play out? That is ridiculous, new maps are fine. Not wonky maps though, not for a legitimate competitive game.

Oh please stop with the metagame thing. I don't want to see the same shit every game and it's obvious these new maps are being well received. Watch some games on the map before you say if doesn't produce competitive games.


Sure, if all you're interested in is entertaining games. A competitive RTS is more about entertainment, there is supposed to be a developed strategic skillset involved. That's what keeps it interesting in the long run anyway.


Mindlessly doing the exact same cookie cutter build every single game on every single map is not a developed strategic skillset. Here we see those who prepare for a map, come up with their own strategies, actually adapt and play smart are those who do well.


Playing the metagame is nothing like doing the exact same old cookie cutter build... You have no idea what you're talking about.


These days it is. Sure it's important to have some degree of consistency to allow a metagame to develop. But what we see in SC2 now is not a developing metagame, it's stagnation. Every game plays out the same, every map plays out the same. It's boring as shit. You need to keep things fresh and reward innovation.

Some crazy new maps to shake things up a bit are a very welcome addition and long overdue. The overwhelmingly favorable response should be proof enough of that.


I don't think we ought to conflate his point on the metagame with the fact that the current metagame is stale. These are separate issues. I don't think his point was ever that there should never be new maps, it's that really odd maps can be gimmicky, which is something that COULD happen to Arkanoid. Some clever player might just figure out the map, and then it'll be a never-ending litany of mirror matchups with the same build. This is just as bad of a metagame.
iyoume
Profile Joined May 2011
2501 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2239
manner nexus <3 always love it
BeSt <3 | HoeJJa | Leta :: team Polt
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
December 16 2012 09:04 GMT
#2240
Effort just trying bits of all zerg tech to see if anything would work.
Prev 1 110 111 112 113 114 159 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Invitational
11:00
WardiTV May Group A
WardiTV881
ComeBackTV 580
Harstem373
Rex191
IndyStarCraft 159
LiquipediaDiscussion
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro4 Match 2
Snow vs SoulkeyLIVE!
Afreeca ASL 15980
sctven
Liquipedia
Replay Cast
10:00
2025 GSL S1 - Ro12 Group B
CranKy Ducklings90
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 373
Rex 191
Lowko170
IndyStarCraft 159
BRAT_OK 49
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 33173
Rain 26061
Jaedong 7412
Mini 2510
ZerO 1482
Pusan 923
Stork 350
Larva 335
GuemChi 227
Hyun 145
[ Show more ]
JYJ109
Rush 84
ToSsGirL 72
Leta 72
Liquid`Ret 61
JulyZerg 56
NotJumperer 51
Sea.KH 50
Barracks 31
Sharp 30
IntoTheRainbow 13
Icarus 13
Noble 10
Shine 9
yabsab 8
Bale 7
Movie 4
ggaemo 0
Dota 2
Gorgc4046
qojqva1482
XcaliburYe420
Fuzer 208
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2537
x6flipin521
fl0m327
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor170
Other Games
singsing2656
B2W.Neo1024
byalli382
crisheroes323
SortOf145
KnowMe122
QueenE37
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL54332
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 618
StarCraft 2
ESL.tv96
Other Games
BasetradeTV48
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 14
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3134
Other Games
• WagamamaTV167
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
11h 26m
GSL Code S
20h 56m
ByuN vs Rogue
herO vs Cure
Replay Cast
1d 11h
GSL Code S
1d 20h
Classic vs Reynor
GuMiho vs Maru
The PondCast
1d 21h
RSL Revival
2 days
GSL Code S
2 days
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
SOOP
4 days
Online Event
4 days
Clem vs ShoWTimE
herO vs MaxPax
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Nation Wars Season 2
PiG Sty Festival 6.0
Calamity Stars S2

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
ASL Season 19
YSL S1
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
China & Korea Top Challenge
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
2025 GSL S1
Heroes 10 EU
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025
ESL Pro League S21

Upcoming

NPSL S3
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
2025 GSL S2
DreamHack Dallas 2025
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.