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Almtom
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden132 Posts
November 23 2012 17:39 GMT
#1761
Most ppl seem to agree that Ret threw the game..... i bet TL will cover this under the rug and start banning people for writing the truth.....

I mean instead of killing the third i make my lings and banelings sit and wait outside his forecfields for 1 min....... gosh i use to be a ret fan but now im definately a ret hater.... so weak should get a significant punishment from his team

User was warned for this post
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
November 23 2012 17:40 GMT
#1762
On November 24 2012 02:36 Husnan wrote:
So, on stream 1, we have Ret sending wave after wave on banelings on forcefields and taking 6 bases at once, and on stream 2, we have Sase making Carriers and Mothership in a PvP...

This is utter bullshit, I have higher expectations of Dreamhack events, really.

When a game doesn't matter, DON'T FUCKING PLAY IT.
I have better things to do than watch meaningless retarded games that might as well be played by my 9-year old drooling cousin.

I'm gonna watch Dota2, screw this.


Bye bye. Hope you don't come back.
Bora Pain minha porra!
LogiiK
Profile Joined June 2011
France185 Posts
November 23 2012 17:40 GMT
#1763
Naniwa because he's sweden, only rule.

User was warned for this post
Hylirion
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands968 Posts
November 23 2012 17:40 GMT
#1764
On November 24 2012 02:38 Vapaach wrote:
Let's all go back in time a bit, and think about what happened in GSL. Naniwa purposely lost vs Nestea and guess what, he lost his code S seed. I am not trying to say here that Ret should be punished hardcore, but I am trying to say that it is not a small matter.


This was a match that didn't matter for both players. It might aswell have been a ladder match, Ret was free to do what he liked imo.
calippo
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2525 Posts
November 23 2012 17:40 GMT
#1765
On November 24 2012 02:40 LogiiK wrote:
Naniwa because he's sweden, only rule.


read the rules you clown;;
in it for the game not for the .... - PMS Army. [WUFC-SDK. VIM. PMS]
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
November 23 2012 17:40 GMT
#1766
Base race on stream 2
Gogogogogogo SaSe
EZ4ENCE
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
November 23 2012 17:40 GMT
#1767
On November 24 2012 02:38 Vapaach wrote:
Let's all go back in time a bit, and think about what happened in GSL. Naniwa purposely lost vs Nestea and guess what, he lost his code S seed. I am not trying to say here that Ret should be punished hardcore, but I am trying to say that it is not a small matter.


Ret probably should not be allowed to take part in next two or three Dreamhack events?
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
November 23 2012 17:40 GMT
#1768
On November 24 2012 02:29 eu.xen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:22 Astro-Penguin wrote:
See everyone calm the f down and stop harassing Ret now, geez this community is ridiculous! Always jumping to the worst conclusions...

The admins wrote Apollo and he said if Ret loses that game NE is through over Naniwa. So it's quite understandable most of us thought while watching that Ret is unfairly throwing the game. Not everybody takes a break in watching, tries to figure out tie rules and do the math themselves when there was such a definite sounding clearcut answer given over the stream.

God all you people having figured that out earlier, get over yourselves. You all know how this misunderstanding developed and now you just want to feel superior.

In any case, the only one that got screwed here is Ret, cause 98% of tens of thousands of viewers thought he is throwing a game unfairly.


Do we know that's what they wrote? If that's the case, Ret DID throw a game unfairly and the criticism is justified. I don't see how you can know that though.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
November 23 2012 17:40 GMT
#1769
On November 24 2012 02:37 caradoc wrote:
Since all are tied with sets/wins/mapscore/head-to-head, we have to look at map score amongst tied

Map Score amongst tied
naniwa 3-2
forgg 2-3
nightend 3-2

Forgg is eliminated, resulting in a two-way tie.

Again, both are tied with sets/wins/mapscore, but look at head-to-head

nighend 2-1 naniwa

naniwa eliminated.


Nightend is 3-3. PLEASE READ THE FUCKING THREAD FOR ONCE.
he lost 1-2 to ForGG and won 2-1 against Naniwa. 2+1=3
so Nightend is 3-3.
Ty basic mathematics... whatever, stop spreading this nonsense.
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10142 Posts
November 23 2012 17:40 GMT
#1770
On November 24 2012 02:39 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:37 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:36 Fenrax wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:33 Godwrath wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:32 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Answer this please
What would have happened if Ret won 2 - 1?


What part of being already a 0-1 Naniwa went through did you not understand ?


The 0-1 part makes no sense.

a) if head to head: nani advances in that situation and then the 0-1 doesnt matter.
b) if map score: Ret advances and being 0-1 doesnt matter.

he means that as soon as Ret dropped game 1, Naniwa was through

which is true


That still makes no sense. On what did the first game have any influence?

a) if head to head counts for nani vs. ret: nani advances in that situation. The 0-1 doesnt matter because of head to head.

b) if map score: Ret advances and being 0-1 doesnt matter because he still has the better map score.


On map score. He didn't have better map score, it would mean that if ret even got a 2-1, he would have a 3 way tie breaker against nani and forGG, and Nani was through.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8309 Posts
November 23 2012 17:40 GMT
#1771
On November 24 2012 02:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:36 garbanzo wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:34 Al Bundy wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:31 mijellin wrote:
There really needs to be a sticky post at the top of this thread telling everyone that ret throwing game 2 did not matter at all

He threw the game. That's unacceptable, period. If anything, he should have forfeited the series instead of playing it and wasting everyone's time and discrediting the scene.

Wanting to play a quicker game by doing a ling/baneling all-in is not the same as throwing the game away. If NightEnd wasn't ready for it Ret could have done a lot of damage and actually won the game. After the all-in failed he lost so he just had a bit of fun.


Exactly. If he had GGd after the all in failed all the Naniwa fanbois wouldn't have flooded this thread with Naniwa style whining.


The person most reminiscent of Naniwa here is Ret though...
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
November 23 2012 17:41 GMT
#1772
Looks good for Feast here, I guess.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
November 23 2012 17:41 GMT
#1773
On November 24 2012 02:36 Husnan wrote:
So, on stream 1, we have Ret sending wave after wave on banelings on forcefields and taking 6 bases at once, and on stream 2, we have Sase making Carriers and Mothership in a PvP...

This is utter bullshit, I have higher expectations of Dreamhack events, really.

When a game doesn't matter, DON'T FUCKING PLAY IT.
I have better things to do than watch meaningless retarded games that might as well be played by my 9-year old drooling cousin.

I'm gonna watch Dota2, screw this.

Chill, Winston!
Having fun when your all-in fails and its the last game of the torney is not the same as"throwing a game"
So go walk it off...
And Nuttin goin on them DOTA2 streams rite now anyways.......
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
November 23 2012 17:41 GMT
#1774
On November 24 2012 02:36 Husnan wrote:
So, on stream 1, we have Ret sending wave after wave on banelings on forcefields and taking 6 bases at once, and on stream 2, we have Sase making Carriers and Mothership in a PvP...

This is utter bullshit, I have higher expectations of Dreamhack events, really.

When a game doesn't matter, DON'T FUCKING PLAY IT.
I have better things to do than watch meaningless retarded games that might as well be played by my 9-year old drooling cousin.

I'm gonna watch Dota2, screw this.


Indeed.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-23 17:42:53
November 23 2012 17:41 GMT
#1775
Sase threw this game.... completely on purpose like game two.
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
November 23 2012 17:41 GMT
#1776
This game should be a draw.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
November 23 2012 17:41 GMT
#1777
On November 24 2012 02:40 Hylirion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:38 Vapaach wrote:
Let's all go back in time a bit, and think about what happened in GSL. Naniwa purposely lost vs Nestea and guess what, he lost his code S seed. I am not trying to say here that Ret should be punished hardcore, but I am trying to say that it is not a small matter.


This was a match that didn't matter for both players. It might aswell have been a ladder match, Ret was free to do what he liked imo.


In retrospect this seems to be true, but Nightend had no idea.
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
crazyazor
Profile Joined July 2010
Albania5 Posts
November 23 2012 17:41 GMT
#1778
On November 24 2012 02:38 NMHU. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:36 Husnan wrote:
So, on stream 1, we have Ret sending wave after wave on banelings on forcefields and taking 6 bases at once, and on stream 2, we have Sase making Carriers and Mothership in a PvP...

This is utter bullshit, I have higher expectations of Dreamhack events, really.

When a game doesn't matter, DON'T FUCKING PLAY IT.
I have better things to do than watch meaningless retarded games that might as well be played by my 9-year old drooling cousin.

I'm gonna watch Dota2, screw this.


SO

MUCH

MAD

These players call themselves professional - yet i see kids playing computer games.

You think throwing games even if there is no chance of advancing (for either players/team) is ok in other sports? No they would get their asses chewed out, rightly so (For the fans and for the sport).
hi
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9847 Posts
November 23 2012 17:41 GMT
#1779
On November 24 2012 02:40 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:36 garbanzo wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:34 Al Bundy wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:31 mijellin wrote:
There really needs to be a sticky post at the top of this thread telling everyone that ret throwing game 2 did not matter at all

He threw the game. That's unacceptable, period. If anything, he should have forfeited the series instead of playing it and wasting everyone's time and discrediting the scene.

Wanting to play a quicker game by doing a ling/baneling all-in is not the same as throwing the game away. If NightEnd wasn't ready for it Ret could have done a lot of damage and actually won the game. After the all-in failed he lost so he just had a bit of fun.


Exactly. If he had GGd after the all in failed all the Naniwa fanbois wouldn't have flooded this thread with Naniwa style whining.


The person most reminiscent of Naniwa here is Ret though...


for doing an all in?
RIP Meatloaf <3
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 23 2012 17:41 GMT
#1780
On November 24 2012 02:39 Fenrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2012 02:37 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:36 Fenrax wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:33 Godwrath wrote:
On November 24 2012 02:32 TheSwedishFan wrote:
Answer this please
What would have happened if Ret won 2 - 1?


What part of being already a 0-1 Naniwa went through did you not understand ?


The 0-1 part makes no sense.

a) if head to head: nani advances in that situation and then the 0-1 doesnt matter.
b) if map score: Ret advances and being 0-1 doesnt matter.

he means that as soon as Ret dropped game 1, Naniwa was through

which is true


That still makes no sense. On what did the first game have any influence?

a) if head to head counts for nani vs. ret: nani advances in that situation. The 0-1 doesnt matter because of head to head.

b) if map score: Ret advances and being 0-1 doesnt matter because he still has the better map score.

map score goes first

if Ret had won 2-0, he would have had better, clean and simple, Ret advances

Ret winning 2-1 would put him at 6-8 and Nani at 5-7, both of which equal minus two, but Nani advances on head-to-head

the fact that Ret won 6 and Nani 5 doesn't matter, only win/loss difference
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