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On November 24 2012 02:40 Kilby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 02:38 Vapaach wrote: Let's all go back in time a bit, and think about what happened in GSL. Naniwa purposely lost vs Nestea and guess what, he lost his code S seed. I am not trying to say here that Ret should be punished hardcore, but I am trying to say that it is not a small matter. Ret probably should not be allowed to take part in next two or three Dreamhack events?
That's my opinion, should just ban him from a couple events for wasting peoples time.
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On November 24 2012 02:40 LogiiK wrote: Naniwa because he's sweden, only rule. Read the official rules and try to apply the math. It's not too hard, and you'll be surprised by the results
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On November 24 2012 02:39 Al Bundy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 02:36 Astro-Penguin wrote: Deal with it, theres no way to prove that he did unlike the Naniwa Probe Rush incident which a bunch of people seem so obligated to get butthurt over, don't expect someone to be on their A game when they realize that they are out of the tournament. Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 02:36 garbanzo wrote: Wanting to play a quicker game by doing a ling/baneling all-in is not the same as throwing the game away. If NightEnd wasn't ready for it Ret could have done a lot of damage and actually won the game. After the all-in failed he lost so he just had a bit of fun. Did you guys even watch the game? Anyway let's move on.
lol i didn't see the games and im not saying he did or didn't do anything, however the fact that he plays the game alone means you technically can never say he threw the game unless hes doing really obvious things like worker rushing, Naniwa has thrown meaningless games in the past after the probe rushing incident by just 4 gating and no one really cared
Ret doesn't deserve all this hate hes getting...
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On November 24 2012 02:40 Hylirion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 02:38 Vapaach wrote: Let's all go back in time a bit, and think about what happened in GSL. Naniwa purposely lost vs Nestea and guess what, he lost his code S seed. I am not trying to say here that Ret should be punished hardcore, but I am trying to say that it is not a small matter. This was a match that didn't matter for both players. It might aswell have been a ladder match, Ret was free to do what he liked imo. Nestea vs. Nani was just as meaningless.
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On November 24 2012 02:39 Al Bundy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 02:36 Astro-Penguin wrote: Deal with it, theres no way to prove that he did unlike the Naniwa Probe Rush incident which a bunch of people seem so obligated to get butthurt over, don't expect someone to be on their A game when they realize that they are out of the tournament. Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 02:36 garbanzo wrote: Wanting to play a quicker game by doing a ling/baneling all-in is not the same as throwing the game away. If NightEnd wasn't ready for it Ret could have done a lot of damage and actually won the game. After the all-in failed he lost so he just had a bit of fun. Did you guys even watch the game? Anyway let's move on. What about my statement is wrong? Sure he could have attacked the third instead of pushing against the forcefields. You could also argue that he just made the wrong call thinking that there wasn't going to be any more forcefields. Remove the fact that this was a completely meaningless game and you would just think he's making poor, misinformed decisions and nothing more.
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Or Sase can just attack and lose
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On November 24 2012 02:36 garbanzo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 02:34 Al Bundy wrote:On November 24 2012 02:31 mijellin wrote: There really needs to be a sticky post at the top of this thread telling everyone that ret throwing game 2 did not matter at all He threw the game. That's unacceptable, period. If anything, he should have forfeited the series instead of playing it and wasting everyone's time and discrediting the scene. Wanting to play a quicker game by doing a ling/baneling all-in is not the same as throwing the game away. If NightEnd wasn't ready for it Ret could have done a lot of damage and actually won the game. After the all-in failed he lost so he just had a bit of fun. The most critical point in this game was when instead of killing Nightend's third when Ret had the ovious possibility, he rolled against a wall of forcefields for like 45 seconds showing that he he really didn't care too much.
After that it was over more or less anyway, but with a little better control that bling/ling attack could have actually worked out pretty decently.
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On November 24 2012 02:39 StarCraft2 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 02:34 Integra wrote:On November 24 2012 02:32 StarCraft2 wrote:On November 24 2012 02:31 Integra wrote:On November 24 2012 02:29 StarCraft2 wrote: Nani is through, but this we already knew (well I did) and it does not change Retjes behavior, at all. Man I've followed you since your BW run though Korea, didn't think this of you Ret. Oh well, reals fans don't give up so easily, and I won't, but you better spoon Naz tonight! Source please, and don't use the outdated dreamhack bracket, Apollo, or liquipedia. Hellspawn Give a damn link or something, lol. Just trust me, I'm legit. Mr.Bitter just confirmed on stream #2 that admins still are discussing it.
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On November 24 2012 02:39 Almtom wrote: Most ppl seem to agree that Ret threw the game..... i bet TL will cover this under the rug and start banning people for writing the truth.....
I mean instead of killing the third i make my lings and banelings sit and wait outside his forecfields for 1 min....... gosh i use to be a ret fan but now im definately a ret hater.... so weak should get a significant punishment from his team
This was a useless game, Nightend coudn't go through either. It's the same as when Naniwa probe rushed Nesteam exept Ret did it with dignity, well.. maybe before he built all those hatches, but oh well.
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SaSe sooooooooooo threw that base trade....
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Fraer and Monchi next protoss bonjwas.
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The past 10 pages of this thread... Makes me weep for Esports
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On November 24 2012 02:41 Vapaach wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 02:40 Hylirion wrote:On November 24 2012 02:38 Vapaach wrote: Let's all go back in time a bit, and think about what happened in GSL. Naniwa purposely lost vs Nestea and guess what, he lost his code S seed. I am not trying to say here that Ret should be punished hardcore, but I am trying to say that it is not a small matter. This was a match that didn't matter for both players. It might aswell have been a ladder match, Ret was free to do what he liked imo. In retrospect this seems to be true, but Nightend had no idea. Yeah he was happy to accept Ret throwing it...
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On November 24 2012 02:42 smileface wrote: SaSe sooooooooooo threw that base trade....
because? i dont see a way how he could win
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Everyone discussing whether Ret "threw" the game or not, congratulations, you are huge douchebags.
Get off your high horse.
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On November 24 2012 02:41 shabby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 02:40 Kilby wrote:On November 24 2012 02:38 Vapaach wrote: Let's all go back in time a bit, and think about what happened in GSL. Naniwa purposely lost vs Nestea and guess what, he lost his code S seed. I am not trying to say here that Ret should be punished hardcore, but I am trying to say that it is not a small matter. Ret probably should not be allowed to take part in next two or three Dreamhack events? That's my opinion, should just ban him from a couple events for wasting peoples time.
Should Sase be banned as well?
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