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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 18 2012 11:48 GMT
#7621
On November 18 2012 20:46 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:42 Dodgin wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:40 Vandrad wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:39 Dodgin wrote:
Okay so in this tournament

Parting defeated

Illusion

Socke

Scarlett

Suppy

Sen

Creator

Only one Korean player and one Code A/B player.

Congrats on the easiest 100k of your life.


If it was os easy why didn't you won it?


I didn't say it was easy, I said it was the easiest 100k of his life.

Compare that run to winning two GSL's and getting second in another, which is what you would have to do to match the 100k prize money.

Compare the many tournaments where Stephano has made bank to an MLG...

prize money isn't equitable in eSports (at all). That said, this tournament had more barriers to entry (all the qualifiers, limited korean representatives) and demanded more consistency than almost any other. What more do you want?


I don't want anything, I'm just telling it how it is.

Qualifying for this event as a KR player is extremely tough, because you had to place well in two tournaments beforehand.

Parting was rewarded generously with a good bracket, and he took advantage.

Beating the players listed does not make him the best in the world, that's the only point. I don't like the tasteless hype because all the casual viewers will buy into it and I don't want to hear any crap about Parting being the best player in the world.
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
November 18 2012 11:49 GMT
#7622
On November 18 2012 20:44 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:42 Jehct wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:39 Dodgin wrote:
Okay so in this tournament

Parting defeated

Illusion

Socke

Scarlett

Suppy

Sen

Creator

Only one Korean player and one Code A/B player.

Congrats on the easiest 100k of your life.

...because every other Code S/A/B korean was knocked out either earlier in the tournament or in the many qualifiers leading up to it

Seriously, wtf? This was a lot harder to win, and required a lot more consistency, than any single Code S championship. He got third in WCS KR, second in WCS Asia, first here. That's fucking amazing. Trying to downplay the achievement is just messed up


You're missing the point, I'm not trying to downplay his achievement or anything, he played really well and did great in WCS KR and WCS asia to get to this point but the players he had to beat to win this makes it the easiest 100k he will ever make in his life.


No you are missing his point. You also have to count all the people he beat in the qualifiers, which worked toward his entry into the tournament.
Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
November 18 2012 11:49 GMT
#7623
Gratz to Parting! Top 3 at this tournament was extremely predictable
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17738 Posts
November 18 2012 11:49 GMT
#7624
On November 18 2012 20:45 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:42 Dodgin wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:40 Vandrad wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:39 Dodgin wrote:
Okay so in this tournament

Parting defeated

Illusion

Socke

Scarlett

Suppy

Sen

Creator

Only one Korean player and one Code A/B player.

Congrats on the easiest 100k of your life.


If it was os easy why didn't you won it?


I didn't say it was easy, I said it was the easiest 100k of his life.

Compare that run to winning two GSL's and getting second in another, which is what you would have to do to match the 100k prize money.

Incorrect, he could have won the lottery...

except he didn't win the lottery, so that's not the easiest $100k of his life, the BWC is
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 18 2012 11:49 GMT
#7625
On November 18 2012 20:48 X3GoldDot wrote:
lol he goes from 50th most earning player right up to top 10

According to SC2earning he won't, he'll go 11th but puma is still 10k ahead of him at 10th.
Glorious SEA doto
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
November 18 2012 11:49 GMT
#7626
On November 18 2012 20:45 Pyre wrote:
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On November 18 2012 20:45 Weirdkid wrote:
Parting makes lifting that trophy look like gym training Though it does look really heavy hahaha. Wonder how he's going to get it back to Korea


I think normally the tournament organizers take the liberty of shipping the trophies.

Oh haha that's nice of them
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
k3n705
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada134 Posts
November 18 2012 11:49 GMT
#7627
Pretty uninteresting finals considering everything that led up to this point. Congrats to PartinG nonetheless, rich ass bastard..
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
November 18 2012 11:49 GMT
#7628
On November 18 2012 20:42 Jehct wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:39 Dodgin wrote:
Okay so in this tournament

Parting defeated

Illusion

Socke

Scarlett

Suppy

Sen

Creator

Only one Korean player and one Code A/B player.

Congrats on the easiest 100k of your life.

...because every other Code S/A/B korean was knocked out either earlier in the tournament or in the many qualifiers leading up to it

Seriously, wtf? This was a lot harder to win, and required a lot more consistency, than any single Code S championship. He got third in WCS KR, second in WCS Asia, first here. That's fucking amazing. Trying to downplay the achievement is just messed up


You're looking at it wrong. He deserves credit for winning those tournament individually and making it to the BWC. He didn't, however, do much to earn the top spot at this event though. Not down playing his efforts, I'm happy for him, but its not like he went from one the top protoss playersvto the best player in the world in 2 days.

A tournament that want's to pretend its the highest achievement in the sport has to fix the qualifying. The player pool was very very poor and a terrible representation of the best players that the world has to offer.
polishedturd
Profile Joined October 2010
United States505 Posts
November 18 2012 11:49 GMT
#7629
On November 18 2012 20:48 TheSwedishFan wrote:
This was by far the best event of the year. Amazing job with the production and the hype throughout the day. The ceremony was cool. Gangnamn style ftw! =D


i mean, i enjoyed this, really, but come on man. shit was a mess at times
http://i.imgur.com/EbrnM.jpg
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 11:52:00
November 18 2012 11:49 GMT
#7630
On November 18 2012 20:44 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:42 Jehct wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:39 Dodgin wrote:
Okay so in this tournament

Parting defeated

Illusion

Socke

Scarlett

Suppy

Sen

Creator

Only one Korean player and one Code A/B player.

Congrats on the easiest 100k of your life.

...because every other Code S/A/B korean was knocked out either earlier in the tournament or in the many qualifiers leading up to it

Seriously, wtf? This was a lot harder to win, and required a lot more consistency, than any single Code S championship. He got third in WCS KR, second in WCS Asia, first here. That's fucking amazing. Trying to downplay the achievement is just messed up


You're missing the point, I'm not trying to downplay his achievement or anything, he played really well and did great in WCS KR and WCS asia to get to this point but the players he had to beat to win this makes it the easiest 100k he will ever make in his life.

...except those players beat the other players you would demand he beat to make it the hardest $100k of his life. What do you want him to do, beat every single player in every qualifier in the most convoluted group stage format ever invented?

Literally every big name was in the different qualifiers/events, and he was the last guy standing. That's the equivalent to an olympics, and why it gets hyped. This bitching is bad.
On November 18 2012 20:49 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:42 Jehct wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:39 Dodgin wrote:
Okay so in this tournament

Parting defeated

Illusion

Socke

Scarlett

Suppy

Sen

Creator

Only one Korean player and one Code A/B player.

Congrats on the easiest 100k of your life.

...because every other Code S/A/B korean was knocked out either earlier in the tournament or in the many qualifiers leading up to it

Seriously, wtf? This was a lot harder to win, and required a lot more consistency, than any single Code S championship. He got third in WCS KR, second in WCS Asia, first here. That's fucking amazing. Trying to downplay the achievement is just messed up


You're looking at it wrong. He deserves credit for winning those tournament individually and making it to the BWC. He didn't, however, do much to earn the top spot at this event though. Not down playing his efforts, I'm happy for him, but its not like he went from one the top protoss playersvto the best player in the world in 2 days.

A tournament that want's to pretend its the highest achievement in the sport has to fix the qualifying. The player pool was very very poor and a terrible representation of the best players that the world has to offer.

Did you look at the qualifiers at all? The player pool was every top name in Korea (and the rest of the world). The very nature of a massive tournament like this is that 99% get weeded out and a few champions from each nation are left standing. Just because you don't like who they are, or how they perform on the day, doesn't mean they don't deserve to win, or aren't the best player in the world at that moment.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 11:50:18
November 18 2012 11:50 GMT
#7631
On November 18 2012 20:49 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:48 X3GoldDot wrote:
lol he goes from 50th most earning player right up to top 10

According to SC2earning he won't, he'll go 11th but puma is still 10k ahead of him at 10th.


He is 2nd for protoss players now.

Still over 200k behind MC though. :D
xlord 5:0
Surrealistic
Profile Joined September 2009
311 Posts
November 18 2012 11:50 GMT
#7632
On November 18 2012 20:48 TheSwedishFan wrote:
This was by far the best event of the year. Amazing job with the production and the hype throughout the day. The ceremony was cool. Gangnamn style ftw! =D

Loved all those technical issues as well. Really added alot of colour and suspense.
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
November 18 2012 11:50 GMT
#7633
On November 18 2012 20:49 polishedturd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:48 TheSwedishFan wrote:
This was by far the best event of the year. Amazing job with the production and the hype throughout the day. The ceremony was cool. Gangnamn style ftw! =D


i mean, i enjoyed this, really, but come on man. shit was a mess at times

Bitterdam's conversation when they didn't think they were on air is clearly what made this the best event of the year.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
November 18 2012 11:51 GMT
#7634
Partings road to 100k:

2-0 sC
2-1 aLive
2-0 curious
2-0 seed
0-2 Squirtle
1-2 Creator
2-0 MacSed
2-1 Curious
2-0 RorO
0-2 HerO (TL)
2-1 Curious
2-1 herO (Kespa Protoss)
2-0 HerO (TL)
2-0 Socke
2-0 Illusion
3-0 Scarlett
3-2 Suppy
3-0 Sen
4-2 Creator
Maruprime.
gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
November 18 2012 11:51 GMT
#7635
On November 18 2012 20:46 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:44 KimJongChill wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:42 Jehct wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:39 Dodgin wrote:
Okay so in this tournament

Parting defeated

Illusion

Socke

Scarlett

Suppy

Sen

Creator

Only one Korean player and one Code A/B player.

Congrats on the easiest 100k of your life.

...because every other Code S/A/B korean was knocked out either earlier in the tournament or in the many qualifiers leading up to it

Seriously, wtf? This was a lot harder to win, and required a lot more consistency, than any single Code S championship. He got third in WCS KR, second in WCS Asia, first here. That's fucking amazing. Trying to downplay the achievement is just messed up


he beat sc, alive, curious, roro, both heros i think, so not the most impressive line-up. i dont think people are downplaying his achievement so much as they are fed up with the blatant and forced hyping.


Blizzard really desperate to make this seem more important than it really is (apart from the money, which is undoubtedly a big thing)

The lack of terran really tainted the BWC for many people i guess. Blizzard is in a difficult position to integrate foreigners (most of them suck) in the tournament to make it a "world"-ish championship.
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Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 11:51:41
November 18 2012 11:51 GMT
#7636
On November 18 2012 20:49 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:45 Hiea wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:42 Dodgin wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:40 Vandrad wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:39 Dodgin wrote:
Okay so in this tournament

Parting defeated

Illusion

Socke

Scarlett

Suppy

Sen

Creator

Only one Korean player and one Code A/B player.

Congrats on the easiest 100k of your life.


If it was os easy why didn't you won it?


I didn't say it was easy, I said it was the easiest 100k of his life.

Compare that run to winning two GSL's and getting second in another, which is what you would have to do to match the 100k prize money.

Incorrect, he could have won the lottery...

except he didn't win the lottery, so that's not the easiest $100k of his life, the BWC is

It's the only 100k of his life so far so of course it's the easiest, duh
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
November 18 2012 11:51 GMT
#7637
On November 18 2012 20:50 dainbramage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:49 polishedturd wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:48 TheSwedishFan wrote:
This was by far the best event of the year. Amazing job with the production and the hype throughout the day. The ceremony was cool. Gangnamn style ftw! =D


i mean, i enjoyed this, really, but come on man. shit was a mess at times

Bitterdam's conversation when they didn't think they were on air is clearly what made this the best event of the year.


What did they talk about?
Pokemon Master
polishedturd
Profile Joined October 2010
United States505 Posts
November 18 2012 11:51 GMT
#7638
On November 18 2012 20:50 dainbramage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2012 20:49 polishedturd wrote:
On November 18 2012 20:48 TheSwedishFan wrote:
This was by far the best event of the year. Amazing job with the production and the hype throughout the day. The ceremony was cool. Gangnamn style ftw! =D


i mean, i enjoyed this, really, but come on man. shit was a mess at times

Bitterdam's conversation when they didn't think they were on air is clearly what made this the best event of the year.


haha, the fuckups did make me laugh, i will admit
http://i.imgur.com/EbrnM.jpg
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
November 18 2012 11:51 GMT
#7639
Parting doesnt care about haters with 100k in his bank. Gratz to all 3 tosses though, they had put up some really great games this tournament.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
November 18 2012 11:51 GMT
#7640
There will be WCS next year? It;s pretty damn amazing tournament overall. I would say that it's the best if you count all continental tourny.
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