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On November 14 2012 21:06 silent_owl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:05 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Because he's the best macro PvZ player in the world. He's the only one who from time to time wins lategame. nah, i think that's your bias talking :p I have to agree. Hero's good but he ain't no god (I mean Flash jk). Seriously though, doesn't mean Hero's not a strong player.
I don't think he his the best player or anything but I just almost always find myself enjoying his games, even when he loses. It rarely looks as stupid as those two Parting games (expect when he tries this push himself).
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wow, so major was actually kinda right when he talked about bogus in the recent sotg episode. I'm really looking forward to watch the vods.
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Dunno wich is worse Lr-thread or twich chat kinda sad 
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On November 14 2012 21:09 CrazyBirdman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:06 silent_owl wrote:On November 14 2012 21:05 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Because he's the best macro PvZ player in the world. He's the only one who from time to time wins lategame. nah, i think that's your bias talking :p I have to agree. Hero's good but he ain't no god (I mean Flash jk). Seriously though, doesn't mean Hero's not a strong player. I don't think he his the best player or anything but I just almost always find myself enjoying his games, even when he loses. It rarely looks as stupid as those two Parting games (expect when he tries this push himself).
I agree.
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On November 14 2012 21:05 TheRooster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:01 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 20:54 Fenrax wrote:
"4 base all-in"
come on Artosis... You can go all-in on 4 bases...>_> Every attack toss makes is pretty much an allin :/, if it doesnt work you are dead or soon too be
Well I'm speechless.
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On November 14 2012 21:08 NightOfTheDead wrote:I really hope he doesnt. He is most boring protoss of Code S.
boring because his defense is the best defense you've seen thus far?
boring because he aims for a macro game in all his games?
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On November 14 2012 21:09 silent_owl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:08 NightOfTheDead wrote:On November 14 2012 21:01 Kasaraki wrote:
Creator will take this season! I really hope he doesnt. He is most boring protoss of Code S. Oh man... optertown better not see this.
fair statement, he's the ONLY protoss in code S.
that also means he's the least boring, the most handsome, the most brilliant protoss in code S
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On November 14 2012 21:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:05 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Because he's the best macro PvZ player in the world. He's the only one who from time to time wins lategame. nah, i think that's your bias talking :p Nono, silly. It's called love. And I really do think that. There's a lot of good people who play great macro PvZ until hive but the one who really shines most in the lategame is HerO.
HerO was special when he was the first one to start doing that and i give him props for that.
But he isn't that special afterwards since the rest of Protoss started to do it too( Sun).
Zergs got a lot better in defending it.
Better off doing Creator 3-base timing.
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Northern Ireland23737 Posts
On November 14 2012 21:09 boretusmax wrote:Dunno wich is worse Lr-thread or twich chat kinda sad
Almost certainly the Twitch chat, let's not go overboard here man!
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On November 14 2012 21:08 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:05 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Because he's the best macro PvZ player in the world. He's the only one who from time to time wins lategame. nah, i think that's your bias talking :p Nono, silly. It's called love. And I really do think that. There's a lot of good people who play great macro PvZ until hive but the one who really shines most in the lategame is HerO. "lategame" is a broodlord/infestor vs. mothership dance, i don't think anyone excels at that, and i think hero is particularly bad at it
I don't think he is inherently bad at it. I interpret his failures as mental ones. Knowing he is in such a dire situation, he is less prone to take the initiative and push his luck (or force his luck) hence ends up losing to the superior unit composition.
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On November 14 2012 21:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:05 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Because he's the best macro PvZ player in the world. He's the only one who from time to time wins lategame. nah, i think that's your bias talking :p Nono, silly. It's called love. And I really do think that. There's a lot of good people who play great macro PvZ until hive but the one who really shines most in the lategame is HerO.
Almost agreed, but I think Rain's usually better. But they both have a great warp prism/harass play in their late game.
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Austria24417 Posts
On November 14 2012 21:08 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:05 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Because he's the best macro PvZ player in the world. He's the only one who from time to time wins lategame. nah, i think that's your bias talking :p Nono, silly. It's called love. And I really do think that. There's a lot of good people who play great macro PvZ until hive but the one who really shines most in the lategame is HerO. "lategame" is a broodlord/infestor vs. mothership dance, i don't think anyone excels at that, and i think hero is particularly bad at it
You're right, nobody excels at that. However HerO will destroy every single zerg base a few times before he loses the battle that nobody can win. I guess that means he's better than most others 
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NOOO! Polt just got the Artosis curse.
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Oh No!! now Polt is cursed -_-
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On November 14 2012 21:07 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:04 Happygreek wrote:On November 14 2012 21:02 Adreme wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 liberate71 wrote:On November 14 2012 20:58 -TesteR- wrote:On November 14 2012 20:57 blug wrote:On November 14 2012 20:56 Schelim wrote:
sup David Kim. you watchin this? Oh no, A Zergs high gas units beat a protosses high gas units.., Clearly Protoss is underpowered. Also wtf would you blink in like that... 1 protoss left in GSL speaks to this issue even louder than this game People say this every time one race is under-represented.... news flash, sometimes people play bad. The best thing to happen to racial balance in Ro8 was group D. I would say all 4 of those zergs I would pick overall over the 4 who were in other groups. I don't think I could put Soulkey over DRG. The other 3 I definitely concur. DRG has had some inconsistantly lately whereas Soulkey is starting to look like player he was hyped to be. Though I often ignore this I was once told when gambling to always pick team thats hot and that seems to be true with starcraft.
Yeah it would obviously depend on whether or not we saw the DRG who made it to OSL finals/smashed his Ro32 group or his OSL finals/Ro16 counterpart.
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United Kingdom14464 Posts
On November 14 2012 21:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:08 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:05 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Because he's the best macro PvZ player in the world. He's the only one who from time to time wins lategame. nah, i think that's your bias talking :p Nono, silly. It's called love. And I really do think that. There's a lot of good people who play great macro PvZ until hive but the one who really shines most in the lategame is HerO. "lategame" is a broodlord/infestor vs. mothership dance, i don't think anyone excels at that, and i think hero is particularly bad at it You're right, nobody excels at that. However HerO will destroy every single zerg base a few times before he loses the battle that nobody can win. I guess that means he's better than most others
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Not really.
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On November 14 2012 21:10 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:09 silent_owl wrote:On November 14 2012 21:08 NightOfTheDead wrote:On November 14 2012 21:01 Kasaraki wrote:
Creator will take this season! I really hope he doesnt. He is most boring protoss of Code S. Oh man... optertown better not see this. fair statement, he's the ONLY protoss in code S. that also means he's the least boring, the most handsome, the most brilliant protoss in code S
Man, I've been misspelling things all night, sorry about that opterown.
Anyway, he is a handsome specimen indeed with an INTERESTING playstyle in my own opinion.
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On November 14 2012 21:09 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:07 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:05 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. He doesn't deathball up, it's pretty obvious why people like his style. It was a pretty damn good style for a while too, I personally just feel that Zergs have gotten a lot better at defending. I don't really think he plays at all similar to Huk at all. His PvT has gotten a lot better, to the extent that it's probably his best matchup. Anyway, not so surprised to see Sniper beat Parting, but was quite surprised that Polt took him out, how did those games go? Using Warp Prism harass doesn't mean he's not deathballing. He plays protoss, of course he deathballs. It's just that when he wins, it looks like his opponent just played like an idiot and didn't respond to what he was doing at all. And when they do he just loses. It's exactly like how Huk used to be. It's not like he just sits with a deathball and has warp-prisms on the map, he frequently splits his army up, harasses with Blink Stalkers while expanding and securing his lategame tech etc.
I don't know. Whenever I see people praise Hero's multitask it looks like the standard multitask you'd see a terran do in old school TvZ. It's not like mind blowing "Oh shit, he's fucking fast". It's just shift queuing warp prisms to opponents bases...>_>
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On November 14 2012 21:10 .kv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:08 NightOfTheDead wrote:On November 14 2012 21:01 Kasaraki wrote:
Creator will take this season! I really hope he doesnt. He is most boring protoss of Code S. boring because his defense is the best defense you've seen thus far? boring because he aims for a macro game in all his games?
You do realise macro =/= always more exciting right?
I sort of agree. Creator does have some pretty sick macro games. But he also seems to have a penchant for delivering a lot of "I make more army and roll you" macro games.
For my measure of excitement, watch anything by Gumiho. I mean, he doesn't win a lot. But dude. Exciting!
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On November 14 2012 21:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:08 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:05 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Because he's the best macro PvZ player in the world. He's the only one who from time to time wins lategame. nah, i think that's your bias talking :p Nono, silly. It's called love. And I really do think that. There's a lot of good people who play great macro PvZ until hive but the one who really shines most in the lategame is HerO. "lategame" is a broodlord/infestor vs. mothership dance, i don't think anyone excels at that, and i think hero is particularly bad at it You're right, nobody excels at that. However HerO will destroy every single zerg base a few times before he loses the battle that nobody can win. I guess that means he's better than most others
still loses :p and that makes his losses even more heartbreaking
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