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On November 14 2012 21:03 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:02 bittman wrote:On November 14 2012 20:58 -TesteR- wrote:On November 14 2012 20:57 blug wrote:On November 14 2012 20:56 Schelim wrote:
sup David Kim. you watchin this? Oh no, A Zergs high gas units beat a protosses high gas units.., Clearly Protoss is underpowered. Also wtf would you blink in like that... 1 protoss left in GSL speaks to this issue even louder than this game Protoss had 0 representation in the Grand Final for GSL S4! SAD ZEALOT AWAY! Let's not watch the actual games now. You know, the ones where players like Parting played like this. Creator actually the only Protoss this entire season that's played ok imo. Rest deserved to lose even ignoring balance. Don't you dare say that HerO didn't deserve to top his Ro32 group. Because I saw those games.
Hero tried to play for the lategame PvZ which is stupid IMO.
You either go for 3-base timing attack or 2 base timing attack.
This is why HerO is failing so hard in PvZ for some time now.
Hero tried to be too cute with his warp prism harass.
But it won't matter if Soulkey gotten his deathball and his spine building walking together and just go killed HerO .
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On November 14 2012 21:01 Kasaraki wrote:
Creator will take this season!
last hope for the sad zealots.
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On November 14 2012 21:05 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:04 GreyKnight wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. uh...hero doesn't 2base allin. Huk doesn't 2 base all-in in PvZ really anymore. He just stays on gateway tech till he has 4 bases...>_>
sorry, you're wrong if you compared huk to hero. you are just too dumb to understand protoss then.
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On November 14 2012 21:04 Dosey wrote:Life drained them of all talent to support himself.
Sounds like the Mystery of KT Academy, but with more Kongs and less paewangs.
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On November 14 2012 21:04 Fionn wrote:
Don't try to be a hero, Polt.
Just do marauder/hellion, bunker rushes and cloaked banshee/hellion timings.
There are no such things in the modern era of TvZ. There are timings like Bogus did on Whirlwind and Entombed or bunker rushes. Banshee hellion is not a timing just an opener.
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On November 14 2012 21:05 silent_owl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:04 Fionn wrote:
Don't try to be a hero, Polt.
Just do marauder/hellion, bunker rushes and cloaked banshee/hellion timings. Isn't that basically what he's good at? No one should have to apologize for sticking to his guns.
Nah, lots of times Polt will go three base turtle into a push across the map against BL/infestors.
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On November 14 2012 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Because he's the best macro PvZ player in the world. He's the only one who from time to time wins lategame.
Yes, the only one
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On November 14 2012 21:00 gTank wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 20:59 liberate71 wrote:On November 14 2012 20:58 gTank wrote:
Someone should make a meme: winfestors.
Because of the quality of the stream, i couldn't even see it clearly but it just were infestors and some corrupters that cleared everything right? No, 80 cracklings Oh. That is a different storry then. I really couldn't see them because of the stream quality.
Why aren't you watching the twitch 540p? http://www.gomtv.net/live/twitch.gom?cid=27067
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On November 14 2012 21:05 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Because he's the best macro PvZ player in the world. He's the only one who from time to time wins lategame. nah, i think that's your bias talking :p
I have to agree. Hero's good but he ain't no god (I mean Flash jk).
Seriously though, doesn't mean Hero's not a strong player.
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On November 14 2012 21:05 TheRooster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:01 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 20:54 Fenrax wrote:
"4 base all-in"
come on Artosis... You can go all-in on 4 bases...>_> Every attack toss makes is pretty much an allin :/, if it doesnt work you are dead or soon too be
this essentially....you have to invest a lot to killing that zerg late game army yo xD
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On November 14 2012 21:05 rw_Wedge wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:04 blug wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Hero is over rated and gets praised because he's from liquid... Can I jump on the Hero bashing bandwagon as well? Seriously though, his play is flashy and he plays everyone close, but in the end you have to actually win games, not just look good in them.
I'm not saying he's bad or anything, but I think he's a level below people like Parting/MC/Rain.
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On November 14 2012 21:05 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. He doesn't deathball up, it's pretty obvious why people like his style. It was a pretty damn good style for a while too, I personally just feel that Zergs have gotten a lot better at defending. I don't really think he plays at all similar to Huk at all. His PvT has gotten a lot better, to the extent that it's probably his best matchup. Anyway, not so surprised to see Sniper beat Parting, but was quite surprised that Polt took him out, how did those games go?
Using Warp Prism harass doesn't mean he's not deathballing. He plays protoss, of course he deathballs. It's just that when he wins, it looks like his opponent just played like an idiot and didn't respond to what he was doing at all. And when they do he just loses. It's exactly like how Huk used to be.
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On November 14 2012 21:04 Happygreek wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:02 Adreme wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 liberate71 wrote:On November 14 2012 20:58 -TesteR- wrote:On November 14 2012 20:57 blug wrote:On November 14 2012 20:56 Schelim wrote:
sup David Kim. you watchin this? Oh no, A Zergs high gas units beat a protosses high gas units.., Clearly Protoss is underpowered. Also wtf would you blink in like that... 1 protoss left in GSL speaks to this issue even louder than this game People say this every time one race is under-represented.... news flash, sometimes people play bad. The best thing to happen to racial balance in Ro8 was group D. I would say all 4 of those zergs I would pick overall over the 4 who were in other groups. I don't think I could put Soulkey over DRG. The other 3 I definitely concur.
DRG has had some inconsistantly lately whereas Soulkey is starting to look like player he was hyped to be. Though I often ignore this I was once told when gambling to always pick team thats hot and that seems to be true with starcraft.
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Austria24422 Posts
On November 14 2012 21:05 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Because he's the best macro PvZ player in the world. He's the only one who from time to time wins lategame. nah, i think that's your bias talking :p
Nono, silly. It's called love.
And I really do think that. There's a lot of good people who play great macro PvZ until hive but the one who really shines most in the lategame is HerO.
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On November 14 2012 21:07 .kv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:05 TheRooster wrote:On November 14 2012 21:01 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 20:54 Fenrax wrote:
"4 base all-in"
come on Artosis... You can go all-in on 4 bases...>_> Every attack toss makes is pretty much an allin :/, if it doesnt work you are dead or soon too be this essentially....you have to invest a lot to killing that zerg late game army yo xD
And when you do, you have to say hello half a minute later to a 200-supply army of ultralisks.
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On November 14 2012 21:01 Kasaraki wrote:
Creator will take this season!
I really hope he doesnt. He is most boring protoss of Code S.
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On November 14 2012 21:07 blug wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:05 rw_Wedge wrote:On November 14 2012 21:04 blug wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Hero is over rated and gets praised because he's from liquid... Can I jump on the Hero bashing bandwagon as well? Seriously though, his play is flashy and he plays everyone close, but in the end you have to actually win games, not just look good in them. I'm not saying he's bad or anything, but I think he's a level below people like Parting/MC/Rain.
WOA Hey this has to stop. Please don't compare Hero to MC. Hero might not be doing great at the moment, but his play is nowhere near those horrible builds and decisions MC does right now.
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On November 14 2012 21:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:05 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Because he's the best macro PvZ player in the world. He's the only one who from time to time wins lategame. nah, i think that's your bias talking :p Nono, silly. It's called love. And I really do think that. There's a lot of good people who play great macro PvZ until hive but the one who really shines most in the lategame is HerO.
"lategame" is a broodlord/infestor vs. mothership dance, i don't think anyone excels at that, and i think hero is particularly bad at it
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On November 14 2012 21:08 NightOfTheDead wrote:I really hope he doesnt. He is most boring protoss of Code S.
Oh man... optertown better not see this.
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Northern Ireland27460 Posts
On November 14 2012 21:07 Megabuster123 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:05 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. He doesn't deathball up, it's pretty obvious why people like his style. It was a pretty damn good style for a while too, I personally just feel that Zergs have gotten a lot better at defending. I don't really think he plays at all similar to Huk at all. His PvT has gotten a lot better, to the extent that it's probably his best matchup. Anyway, not so surprised to see Sniper beat Parting, but was quite surprised that Polt took him out, how did those games go? Using Warp Prism harass doesn't mean he's not deathballing. He plays protoss, of course he deathballs. It's just that when he wins, it looks like his opponent just played like an idiot and didn't respond to what he was doing at all. And when they do he just loses. It's exactly like how Huk used to be.
It's not like he just sits with a deathball and has warp-prisms on the map, he frequently splits his army up, harasses with Blink Stalkers while expanding and securing his lategame tech etc.
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