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On November 14 2012 21:09 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:07 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:05 Wombat_NI wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. He doesn't deathball up, it's pretty obvious why people like his style. It was a pretty damn good style for a while too, I personally just feel that Zergs have gotten a lot better at defending. I don't really think he plays at all similar to Huk at all. His PvT has gotten a lot better, to the extent that it's probably his best matchup. Anyway, not so surprised to see Sniper beat Parting, but was quite surprised that Polt took him out, how did those games go? Using Warp Prism harass doesn't mean he's not deathballing. He plays protoss, of course he deathballs. It's just that when he wins, it looks like his opponent just played like an idiot and didn't respond to what he was doing at all. And when they do he just loses. It's exactly like how Huk used to be. It's not like he just sits with a deathball and has warp-prisms on the map, he frequently splits his army up, harasses with Blink Stalkers while expanding and securing his lategame tech etc.
That's why he lost to Soulkey.
Harass constantly and doesn't have a strong standing army.
Once Soulkey gotten his beautiful deathball, it was over for HerO.
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I predict a 2-1 victory for polt, one will be gained by a marauder/hellion all in and the other one will be standard TvZ.
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Norway25712 Posts
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On November 14 2012 21:05 TheRooster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:01 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 20:54 Fenrax wrote:
"4 base all-in"
come on Artosis... You can go all-in on 4 bases...>_> Every attack toss makes is pretty much an allin :/, if it doesnt work you are dead or soon too be
You are just so plain wrong, I don't know how to describe it. It all comes down of how you set your attack up. If you have your further transitions ready and give you the ability to be absolutely fine with pulling back, if you realize that your opponent's defence is too strong, than your attack is not allin. You want an example? Watch Creator's games against DRG and Curious on Daybreak from monday!
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On November 14 2012 21:10 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:09 silent_owl wrote:On November 14 2012 21:08 NightOfTheDead wrote:On November 14 2012 21:01 Kasaraki wrote:
Creator will take this season! I really hope he doesnt. He is most boring protoss of Code S. Oh man... optertown better not see this. fair statement, he's the ONLY protoss in code S. that also means he's the least boring, the most handsome, the most brilliant protoss in code S
Ha ha ha well done. He's not that exciting but it's beautiful because well executed.
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On November 14 2012 21:11 Happygreek wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:07 Adreme wrote:On November 14 2012 21:04 Happygreek wrote:On November 14 2012 21:02 Adreme wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 liberate71 wrote:On November 14 2012 20:58 -TesteR- wrote:On November 14 2012 20:57 blug wrote:On November 14 2012 20:56 Schelim wrote:
sup David Kim. you watchin this? Oh no, A Zergs high gas units beat a protosses high gas units.., Clearly Protoss is underpowered. Also wtf would you blink in like that... 1 protoss left in GSL speaks to this issue even louder than this game People say this every time one race is under-represented.... news flash, sometimes people play bad. The best thing to happen to racial balance in Ro8 was group D. I would say all 4 of those zergs I would pick overall over the 4 who were in other groups. I don't think I could put Soulkey over DRG. The other 3 I definitely concur. DRG has had some inconsistantly lately whereas Soulkey is starting to look like player he was hyped to be. Though I often ignore this I was once told when gambling to always pick team thats hot and that seems to be true with starcraft. Yeah it would obviously depend on whether or not we saw the DRG who made it to OSL finals/smashed his Ro32 group or his OSL finals/Ro16 counterpart.
the OSL-finals DRG was pretty mediocre
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Group C
Bogus: 100.00%
Sniper: 65.23%
Polt: 34.77%
PartinG: 0.00%
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just turned up, did parting try a wonwonwon or not?
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United States23455 Posts
Sniper kills everything that is fun.
Eve playing, Slayers final victory, Parting's immortal/sentry all-in. Now he'll kill Polt, the ultimate fun.
He's literally the Fun Killer.
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I'm going to avoid watching PvZs from now on; they are not good for my mental well being.
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On November 14 2012 21:13 Laurens wrote:
just turned up, did parting try a wonwonwon or not?
Parting tried his WonWonWon.
Got Crushed.
Parting doesn't have enough soul after all.
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Northern Ireland23737 Posts
HerO's PvZ approach was actually one that the Kespa Protoss players took notes from when they fully switched over, I recall Rain speaking about this in an interview. Now to find it....
Anyway, come on Poltimus
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Austria24417 Posts
On November 14 2012 21:11 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:08 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:05 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Because he's the best macro PvZ player in the world. He's the only one who from time to time wins lategame. nah, i think that's your bias talking :p Nono, silly. It's called love. And I really do think that. There's a lot of good people who play great macro PvZ until hive but the one who really shines most in the lategame is HerO. "lategame" is a broodlord/infestor vs. mothership dance, i don't think anyone excels at that, and i think hero is particularly bad at it You're right, nobody excels at that. However HerO will destroy every single zerg base a few times before he loses the battle that nobody can win. I guess that means he's better than most others  still loses :p and that makes his losses even more heartbreaking
Indeed my friend. I suffered a lot.
But at this point blizzard has responded to complaints. So if there's any hope in the future, I do think he'll go back to not losing PvZ.
On November 14 2012 21:13 Wombat_NI wrote:
HerO's PvZ approach was actually one that the Kespa Protoss players took notes from when they fully switched over, I recall Rain speaking about this in an interview. Now to find it....
Anyway, come on Poltimus
Bisu said it too and someone else I think.
Go Polt!
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On November 14 2012 21:13 Laurens wrote:
just turned up, did parting try a wonwonwon or not?
Tried and failed miserably.
Polt should beat Sniper. I hope we see some all-inish shenanigans out of him.
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On November 14 2012 21:13 Fionn wrote:
Sniper kills everything that is fun.
Eve playing, Slayers final victory, Parting's immortal/sentry all-in. Now he'll kill Polt, the ultimate fun.
He's literally the Fun Killer.
If he doesn't win now, I'll hate him for killing PartinG. That tit.
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On November 14 2012 21:12 TeeTS wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:05 TheRooster wrote:On November 14 2012 21:01 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 20:54 Fenrax wrote:
"4 base all-in"
come on Artosis... You can go all-in on 4 bases...>_> Every attack toss makes is pretty much an allin :/, if it doesnt work you are dead or soon too be You are just so plain wrong, I don't know how to describe it. It all comes down of how you set your attack up. If you have your further transitions ready and give you the ability to be absolutely fine with pulling back, if you realize that your opponent's defence is too strong, than your attack is not allin. You want an example? Watch Creator's games against DRG and Curious on Daybreak from monday!
I agree with him, but I don't really know what he's trying to get at...
If you have a heavy gas army as Zerg/Terran and end up losing all your infestors/broodlords/siege tanks/Medivacs without trading cost effectively, then you basically lose the game in most cases.
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On November 14 2012 21:13 Fionn wrote:
Sniper kills everything that is fun.
Eve playing, Slayers final victory, Parting's immortal/sentry all-in. Now he'll kill Polt, the ultimate fun.
He's literally the Fun Killer.
Is this a prediction? If so, there's now hope for Polt!
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On November 14 2012 21:13 Fionn wrote:
Sniper kills everything that is fun.
Eve playing, Slayers final victory, Parting's immortal/sentry all-in. Now he'll kill Polt, the ultimate fun.
He's literally the Fun Killer.
Fionn speaks the truth!
But I still believe in Polt :-)
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On November 14 2012 21:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2012 21:11 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:10 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:08 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:08 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:05 opterown wrote:On November 14 2012 21:04 DarkLordOlli wrote:On November 14 2012 21:03 Megabuster123 wrote:On November 14 2012 21:00 GreyKnight wrote:
we need hero back in code s, his pvzs are actually dynamic... I don't know why everyone likes Hero's PvZ...I feel like Hero is just a better version of Huk. His opponents just play really stupid and then he wins so he looks like a god. But when they don't, he just gets smashed. Because he's the best macro PvZ player in the world. He's the only one who from time to time wins lategame. nah, i think that's your bias talking :p Nono, silly. It's called love. And I really do think that. There's a lot of good people who play great macro PvZ until hive but the one who really shines most in the lategame is HerO. "lategame" is a broodlord/infestor vs. mothership dance, i don't think anyone excels at that, and i think hero is particularly bad at it You're right, nobody excels at that. However HerO will destroy every single zerg base a few times before he loses the battle that nobody can win. I guess that means he's better than most others still loses :p and that makes his losses even more heartbreaking Indeed my friend. I suffered a lot. But at this point blizzard has responded to complaints. So if there's any hope in the future, I do think he'll go back to not losing PvZ.
hero should swallow his pride and learn a few timings, like creator's famous 3-base or parting's sentry immortal, he would win more
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