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KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 05 2012 11:40 GMT
#801
Man, nothing beats cold water.

Except for cigarettes and red wine.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 05 2012 11:40 GMT
#802
On November 05 2012 20:39 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:38 Zane wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:36 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:35 sitromit wrote:
Every time a Zerg wins, it's the same crap. Endless balance whining and redesigning of every single Zerg unit except Hydras.

maybe hydras are good but they never get a chance to prove themselves?

Hey when you have to compete with Infestors it's pretty hard to look like a good unit. Zergs thought ultras were terrible for months.


You try a-moving with ultras... that shit is retarded (thats not a balance joke, just a joke at Ultras pathing hahaha - they are clumsy as alllllllllllll hell)

but i love kiting ultras with marine marauders.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
pivor
Profile Joined October 2012
Poland198 Posts
November 05 2012 11:40 GMT
#803
Bio<fungal
mech<fungal
Air<fungal
whats left? nuke? bc? jk. fungal..
:F
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 05 2012 11:40 GMT
#804
On November 05 2012 20:39 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:38 liberate71 wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:36 KiNGxXx wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:35 sitromit wrote:
Every time a Zerg wins, it's the same crap. Endless balance whining and redesigning of every single Zerg unit except Hydras.

Cause everyone knows they are way too fast!

I agree ravens need a buff but this game can't be an indicator cause Mvp was too far behind and had a way to small army.


With Fusion Core, Ravens can be made 2 at a time from techlab or something would be cool.

raven speed upgrade/seeker missile speed upgrades please.


Ravens have already the most upgrade for a single unit in the game ;;

Seeker Missile
Corvid Reactor
High sec auto tracking
Durable Material
Building Armor
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12700 Posts
November 05 2012 11:40 GMT
#805
On November 05 2012 20:34 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:32 Severian wrote:
Is everyone complaining forgetting that MVP built 20 pretty useless tanks then sent them to their deaths with nothing but a few infestor kills to show for it, leaving his final army much smaller?


Mvp actually got a lot done with his tank raids.
The obs didn't catch all of it, but he made the BLs fly everywhere but at his base for a long time, and he killed a base + the greater spire

still not worth the 20 tanks, it would had been better if it was only 10 tanks or so, but there were nothing to kill off the infested terrans and that's why the vikings were killed so easily compared to corruptors
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 11:41:51
November 05 2012 11:41 GMT
#806
On November 05 2012 20:40 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:39 andaylin wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:38 liberate71 wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:36 KiNGxXx wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:35 sitromit wrote:
Every time a Zerg wins, it's the same crap. Endless balance whining and redesigning of every single Zerg unit except Hydras.

Cause everyone knows they are way too fast!

I agree ravens need a buff but this game can't be an indicator cause Mvp was too far behind and had a way to small army.


With Fusion Core, Ravens can be made 2 at a time from techlab or something would be cool.

raven speed upgrade/seeker missile speed upgrades please.


Ravens have already the most upgrade for a single unit in the game ;;

Seeker Missile
Corvid Reactor
High sec auto tracking
Durable Material
Building Armor

and yet, ...still so shit LOL. they should buff auto turrets to make them more beachball spammable like ITs
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
kodas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States418 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 11:42:24
November 05 2012 11:41 GMT
#807
On November 05 2012 20:35 NovemberstOrm wrote:
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On November 05 2012 20:33 kodas wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:31 KristofferAG wrote:
I wish the mods would strike harder on people balance whining in LR threads. Totally ruins the threads

Why not let people express opinions? I mean I personally would rather see people who complain about complainers ban.


That would make you a hypocrite then.

How so? I was never really complaining at all.. just expressing my opinion that whining about whiners is counter productive, on the other hand I was bringing up a topic about how maybe some constructive posts about balance can't be a bad thing, but to help you out "OMFG these people complaining about complainers are so dumb."
On the other hand I have been viewing these LR threads for a decent amount of time and it's always really funny to watch the same person go from complaining to telling people to stop complaining in the matter of a patch. I can understand not wanting to see in an MLG thread "ZERG OP" for five pages, but in a smaller LR, what does a random post about how someone thinks infestors need to be changed be a bad thing?
Get paper, fuck bitches, smoke trees, mass thors.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3390 Posts
November 05 2012 11:41 GMT
#808
On November 05 2012 20:39 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:37 Severian wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:34 Noocta wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:32 Severian wrote:
Is everyone complaining forgetting that MVP built 20 pretty useless tanks then sent them to their deaths with nothing but a few infestor kills to show for it, leaving his final army much smaller?


Mvp actually got a lot done with his tank raids.
The obs didn't catch all of it, but he made the BLs fly everywhere but at his base for a long time, and he killed a base + the greater spire


On November 05 2012 20:34 Wildmoon wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:32 Severian wrote:
Is everyone complaining forgetting that MVP built 20 pretty useless tanks then sent them to their deaths with nothing but a few infestor kills to show for it, leaving his final army much smaller?



It's his tanks that bought time for him to mass air.

Ok, I should've put it another way: everyone's acting like MVP had a 200-supply zerg-killing army of doom, whereas in reality it was like 8 Ravens, 15 Vikings and almost nothing else. Yeah, if he had've won the air battle because omg seeker missile so awesome~ he might've held off that attack for a bit, but there was no way he could actually win with that army.


Oh yeah, ofc Mvp was dead.
His sky army was too small to win the game, people thinking he had a chance are desulionnal.

That's not the point.
Even if he had 150 supply army the rest of it would have to be in ground units to defend against the tech switch.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
November 05 2012 11:41 GMT
#809
On November 05 2012 20:37 figq wrote:
I only wonder that people choose *this* game to make comparisons between late game armies. In this game zerg won significant economic advantage much earlier before late game, and just pressed it methodically.

hmm didn't mvp go for 3 cc in the beginning after mm agression? Maybe I was not attentive. He then turned out to have less workers, while zerg was able to soak the damage and expand?
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
November 05 2012 11:41 GMT
#810
On November 05 2012 20:39 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:38 liberate71 wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:36 KiNGxXx wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:35 sitromit wrote:
Every time a Zerg wins, it's the same crap. Endless balance whining and redesigning of every single Zerg unit except Hydras.

Cause everyone knows they are way too fast!

I agree ravens need a buff but this game can't be an indicator cause Mvp was too far behind and had a way to small army.


With Fusion Core, Ravens can be made 2 at a time from techlab or something would be cool.

raven speed upgrade/seeker missile speed upgrades please.


As a Zerg I agree... if only because it would lead to Terran turtle style which is my absolute favorite thing to watch. Terran is SO godly late game with mules, PF's, Turrets, Thor/Ghost/Raven/BC whatever combo. SO much fun to watch it makes me want to switch to Terran... just wish it would happen more than 1/10000 games.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
November 05 2012 11:41 GMT
#811
Go go Creator, I want to see u against Mvp !
fidelity
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden410 Posts
November 05 2012 11:41 GMT
#812
On November 05 2012 20:33 kodas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:31 KristofferAG wrote:
I wish the mods would strike harder on people balance whining in LR threads. Totally ruins the threads

Why not let people express opinions? I mean I personally would rather see people who complain about complainers ban.


They aren't expressing their opinions, they are just complaining after their race lose no matter how the match played out. Balance discussions should be kept in the strategy section or something. It doesn't really belong in a LR thread imo.
brofestor
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 11:42:25
November 05 2012 11:41 GMT
#813
On November 05 2012 20:39 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:37 figq wrote:
I only wonder that people choose *this* game to make comparisons between late game armies. In this game zerg won significant economic advantage much earlier before late game, and just pressed it methodically.


EXACTLY. And yet despite how close it was with MVP being miles behind, no Terrans are doing this style correctly:

1. BFH to get a lead.
2. FULL TURTLE with tanks and turrets, PF's, unbreakable.
3. Mass Thor, Viking, Raven, Ghost combo.
4. SMASH!


with you and your 3 measly bases? zerg would have all the other bases and his creep would spread to your doorstep, and he can remax his army many times over

and yeah MVP shld have 11/11 at least once. why he didnt do that.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 05 2012 11:42 GMT
#814
On November 05 2012 20:41 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:40 Noocta wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:39 andaylin wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:38 liberate71 wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:36 KiNGxXx wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:35 sitromit wrote:
Every time a Zerg wins, it's the same crap. Endless balance whining and redesigning of every single Zerg unit except Hydras.

Cause everyone knows they are way too fast!

I agree ravens need a buff but this game can't be an indicator cause Mvp was too far behind and had a way to small army.


With Fusion Core, Ravens can be made 2 at a time from techlab or something would be cool.

raven speed upgrade/seeker missile speed upgrades please.


Ravens have already the most upgrade for a single unit in the game ;;

Seeker Missile
Corvid Reactor
High sec auto tracking
Durable Material
Building Armor

and yet, ...still so shit LOL


If you can upgrade all of that they are pretty good, takes so long tho.
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
November 05 2012 11:42 GMT
#815
On November 05 2012 20:41 pmp10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:39 Noocta wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:37 Severian wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:34 Noocta wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:32 Severian wrote:
Is everyone complaining forgetting that MVP built 20 pretty useless tanks then sent them to their deaths with nothing but a few infestor kills to show for it, leaving his final army much smaller?


Mvp actually got a lot done with his tank raids.
The obs didn't catch all of it, but he made the BLs fly everywhere but at his base for a long time, and he killed a base + the greater spire


On November 05 2012 20:34 Wildmoon wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:32 Severian wrote:
Is everyone complaining forgetting that MVP built 20 pretty useless tanks then sent them to their deaths with nothing but a few infestor kills to show for it, leaving his final army much smaller?



It's his tanks that bought time for him to mass air.

Ok, I should've put it another way: everyone's acting like MVP had a 200-supply zerg-killing army of doom, whereas in reality it was like 8 Ravens, 15 Vikings and almost nothing else. Yeah, if he had've won the air battle because omg seeker missile so awesome~ he might've held off that attack for a bit, but there was no way he could actually win with that army.


Oh yeah, ofc Mvp was dead.
His sky army was too small to win the game, people thinking he had a chance are desulionnal.

That's not the point.
Even if he had 150 supply army the rest of it would have to be in ground units to defend against the tech switch.


Uhh no. If they were even economically and Terran plays right he should crush a weak Roach army with a few tanks and some Banshees. Seriously a well crafted Terran army CAN do this, just nobody is even trying. Makes me sad.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
November 05 2012 11:43 GMT
#816
On November 05 2012 20:29 Maloreon wrote:
Buff Ravens already (saying this as a Zerg). Reduce cost of HSM, make raven buildable from no tech lab imo. I'd love what that would do to the metagame.

That would simply make Ravens the terran equivelant of Infestors.

Balancing OP with more OP will just cause more terrible terrible damage.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 05 2012 11:43 GMT
#817
On November 05 2012 20:39 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:37 figq wrote:
I only wonder that people choose *this* game to make comparisons between late game armies. In this game zerg won significant economic advantage much earlier before late game, and just pressed it methodically.


EXACTLY. And yet despite how close it was with MVP being miles behind, no Terrans are doing this style correctly:

1. BFH to get a lead.
2. FULL TURTLE with tanks and turrets, PF's, unbreakable.
3. Mass Thor, Viking, Raven, Ghost combo.
4. SMASH!


By FULL TURTLE, I think you mean on 3 bases? Because the zerg will just go to 5 bases and 10 gases and outtech and produce you to their BLs army before you can get yours out.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
November 05 2012 11:43 GMT
#818
On November 05 2012 20:40 KristofferAG wrote:
Man, nothing beats cold water.

Except for cigarettes and red wine.


Coffee in the morning and beer in the evening. Always accompanied by cigarettes though
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 05 2012 11:44 GMT
#819
(T)Bbyong v (P)Creator
0 - 0


Maps:
Daybreak
TBD
TBD

05.00
Bbyong spawning as the blue Terran in the 7 o'clock position.
Creator spawning as the red Protoss in the 1 o'clock position.

Bbyong has fangirls. Even if he loses, he wins.

Rax on 12 for Bbyong, not walling off.
Gateway for Creator, sends out scouting Probe.

Gas taken by Creator.
Cybernetics Core started.

1rax expand coming in from Bbyong, CC on the natural.
Creator not skipping the first Zealot, starts warp gate followed by Stalker.

Double gas for bbyong, bunker on the natural.
Nexus started by Creator.

Factory started in Bbyongs base.
Second gas from Creator.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
November 05 2012 11:44 GMT
#820
On November 05 2012 20:41 brofestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:39 Maloreon wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:37 figq wrote:
I only wonder that people choose *this* game to make comparisons between late game armies. In this game zerg won significant economic advantage much earlier before late game, and just pressed it methodically.


EXACTLY. And yet despite how close it was with MVP being miles behind, no Terrans are doing this style correctly:

1. BFH to get a lead.
2. FULL TURTLE with tanks and turrets, PF's, unbreakable.
3. Mass Thor, Viking, Raven, Ghost combo.
4. SMASH!


with you and your 3 measly bases? zerg would have all the other bases and his creep would spread to your doorstep, and he can remax his army many times over

and yeah MVP shld have 11/11 at least once. why he didnt do that.


You can easily turtle 4-5 base and get any units you want watch Hack vs. Zerg from up/downs. Anyway, its the same thing that Zerg do right now turtle to make perfect army that one shots all other armies. Economy is important but even if Zerg has the whole map if you craft the right army you can and will win. I believe!
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
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