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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 05 2012 11:36 GMT
#781
On November 05 2012 20:35 brofestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:34 y0su wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:32 Noocta wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:31 y0su wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:28 Fjodorov wrote:
queens :S Transfuse should cost atleast 100 energy. There is no way anyone can argue against that

It was at a good place compared to the old snipe... now it's pretty good on it's own (and apparently a little easier to use than everyone was arguing before). Not sure I agree with 100 energy tho. Maybe make it heal less (50 instead of 75). Although it was the ITs that decided that final battle.


Transfuse heal 125hp


^ /facepalm I need sleep


lol 50 hp. heal a zergling perhaps?


dat fucking micro.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
November 05 2012 11:36 GMT
#782
On November 05 2012 20:35 sitromit wrote:
Every time a Zerg wins, it's the same crap. Endless balance whining and redesigning of every single Zerg unit except Hydras.

Cause everyone knows they are way too fast!

I agree ravens need a buff but this game can't be an indicator cause Mvp was too far behind and had a way to small army.
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 05 2012 11:37 GMT
#783
On November 05 2012 20:36 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:35 sitromit wrote:
Every time a Zerg wins, it's the same crap. Endless balance whining and redesigning of every single Zerg unit except Hydras.

maybe hydras are good but they never get a chance to prove themselves?


They are the new Ultra!!
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
November 05 2012 11:37 GMT
#784
I only wonder that people choose *this* game to make comparisons between late game armies. In this game zerg won significant economic advantage much earlier before late game, and just pressed it methodically.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Noc-
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland850 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-05 11:38:17
November 05 2012 11:37 GMT
#785
On November 05 2012 20:33 kodas wrote:
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On November 05 2012 20:31 KristofferAG wrote:
I wish the mods would strike harder on people balance whining in LR threads. Totally ruins the threads

Why not let people express opinions? I mean I personally would rather see people who complain about complainers ban.


Because that excuse is just bullshit and you know it. This isnt the place to express your opinios of the game balance.

Well, MVP losing, its always the same. Thread turns to a kindergarten.
SEKO SEKO MMA<3 SEKO SEKO
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 05 2012 11:37 GMT
#786
On November 05 2012 20:36 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:35 brofestor wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:34 y0su wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:32 Noocta wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:31 y0su wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:28 Fjodorov wrote:
queens :S Transfuse should cost atleast 100 energy. There is no way anyone can argue against that

It was at a good place compared to the old snipe... now it's pretty good on it's own (and apparently a little easier to use than everyone was arguing before). Not sure I agree with 100 energy tho. Maybe make it heal less (50 instead of 75). Although it was the ITs that decided that final battle.


Transfuse heal 125hp


^ /facepalm I need sleep


lol 50 hp. heal a zergling perhaps?


dat fucking micro.

If someone wins an engagement by transfusing lings, I am their new biggest fan.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 05 2012 11:37 GMT
#787
On November 05 2012 20:36 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:35 brofestor wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:34 y0su wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:32 Noocta wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:31 y0su wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:28 Fjodorov wrote:
queens :S Transfuse should cost atleast 100 energy. There is no way anyone can argue against that

It was at a good place compared to the old snipe... now it's pretty good on it's own (and apparently a little easier to use than everyone was arguing before). Not sure I agree with 100 energy tho. Maybe make it heal less (50 instead of 75). Although it was the ITs that decided that final battle.


Transfuse heal 125hp


^ /facepalm I need sleep


lol 50 hp. heal a zergling perhaps?


dat fucking micro.


Hey, i've seen HuyN transfuse drones !
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
November 05 2012 11:37 GMT
#788
MVP was going to lose even if he killed all the air units, so complaining about balance is really silly. IF he had ground units to help vs. the infested terrans etc. and a few thors to add air splash he could have been in decent position.
@QxGDarkCell ._.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 05 2012 11:37 GMT
#789
Seen to many games lately were zerg not only wins, but the games are not even close, even though the players are very even in skill. Dont know what it means, but i would like to find out.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
November 05 2012 11:37 GMT
#790
This game looked stupid enough for me to say that some zerg spells are too much.
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
November 05 2012 11:37 GMT
#791
On November 05 2012 20:34 Noocta wrote:
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On November 05 2012 20:32 Severian wrote:
Is everyone complaining forgetting that MVP built 20 pretty useless tanks then sent them to their deaths with nothing but a few infestor kills to show for it, leaving his final army much smaller?


Mvp actually got a lot done with his tank raids.
The obs didn't catch all of it, but he made the BLs fly everywhere but at his base for a long time, and he killed a base + the greater spire


On November 05 2012 20:34 Wildmoon wrote:
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On November 05 2012 20:32 Severian wrote:
Is everyone complaining forgetting that MVP built 20 pretty useless tanks then sent them to their deaths with nothing but a few infestor kills to show for it, leaving his final army much smaller?



It's his tanks that bought time for him to mass air.

Ok, I should've put it another way: everyone's acting like MVP had a 200-supply zerg-killing army of doom, whereas in reality it was like 8 Ravens, 15 Vikings and almost nothing else. Yeah, if he had've won the air battle because omg seeker missile so awesome~ he might've held off that attack for a bit, but there was no way he could actually win with that army.
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
November 05 2012 11:38 GMT
#792
On November 05 2012 20:36 brofestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:35 sitromit wrote:
Every time a Zerg wins, it's the same crap. Endless balance whining and redesigning of every single Zerg unit except Hydras.


cause they ARE OP. bet u wish bl/festor to win all your ladder games for you.


OK now THAT is some balance whining lol.
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
November 05 2012 11:38 GMT
#793
On November 05 2012 20:36 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:35 sitromit wrote:
Every time a Zerg wins, it's the same crap. Endless balance whining and redesigning of every single Zerg unit except Hydras.

maybe hydras are good but they never get a chance to prove themselves?

Dont cross that line. Hydras are crap.
Stork[gm]
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
November 05 2012 11:38 GMT
#794
On November 05 2012 20:36 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:35 sitromit wrote:
Every time a Zerg wins, it's the same crap. Endless balance whining and redesigning of every single Zerg unit except Hydras.

maybe hydras are good but they never get a chance to prove themselves?

Hey when you have to compete with Infestors it's pretty hard to look like a good unit. Zergs thought ultras were terrible for months.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 05 2012 11:38 GMT
#795
On November 05 2012 20:36 KiNGxXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:35 sitromit wrote:
Every time a Zerg wins, it's the same crap. Endless balance whining and redesigning of every single Zerg unit except Hydras.

Cause everyone knows they are way too fast!

I agree ravens need a buff but this game can't be an indicator cause Mvp was too far behind and had a way to small army.


With Fusion Core, Ravens can be made 2 at a time from techlab or something would be cool.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 05 2012 11:38 GMT
#796
Oh right, I need to get the LR thing set up
Brb water get.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
November 05 2012 11:39 GMT
#797
On November 05 2012 20:37 Severian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:34 Noocta wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:32 Severian wrote:
Is everyone complaining forgetting that MVP built 20 pretty useless tanks then sent them to their deaths with nothing but a few infestor kills to show for it, leaving his final army much smaller?


Mvp actually got a lot done with his tank raids.
The obs didn't catch all of it, but he made the BLs fly everywhere but at his base for a long time, and he killed a base + the greater spire


Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:34 Wildmoon wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:32 Severian wrote:
Is everyone complaining forgetting that MVP built 20 pretty useless tanks then sent them to their deaths with nothing but a few infestor kills to show for it, leaving his final army much smaller?



It's his tanks that bought time for him to mass air.

Ok, I should've put it another way: everyone's acting like MVP had a 200-supply zerg-killing army of doom, whereas in reality it was like 8 Ravens, 15 Vikings and almost nothing else. Yeah, if he had've won the air battle because omg seeker missile so awesome~ he might've held off that attack for a bit, but there was no way he could actually win with that army.


Oh yeah, ofc Mvp was dead.
His sky army was too small to win the game, people thinking he had a chance are desulionnal.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
November 05 2012 11:39 GMT
#798
On November 05 2012 20:38 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:36 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:35 sitromit wrote:
Every time a Zerg wins, it's the same crap. Endless balance whining and redesigning of every single Zerg unit except Hydras.

maybe hydras are good but they never get a chance to prove themselves?

Hey when you have to compete with Infestors it's pretty hard to look like a good unit. Zergs thought ultras were terrible for months.


You try a-moving with ultras... that shit is retarded (thats not a balance joke, just a joke at Ultras pathing hahaha - they are clumsy as alllllllllllll hell)
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
November 05 2012 11:39 GMT
#799
On November 05 2012 20:37 figq wrote:
I only wonder that people choose *this* game to make comparisons between late game armies. In this game zerg won significant economic advantage much earlier before late game, and just pressed it methodically.


EXACTLY. And yet despite how close it was with MVP being miles behind, no Terrans are doing this style correctly:

1. BFH to get a lead.
2. FULL TURTLE with tanks and turrets, PF's, unbreakable.
3. Mass Thor, Viking, Raven, Ghost combo.
4. SMASH!
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 05 2012 11:39 GMT
#800
On November 05 2012 20:38 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 20:36 KiNGxXx wrote:
On November 05 2012 20:35 sitromit wrote:
Every time a Zerg wins, it's the same crap. Endless balance whining and redesigning of every single Zerg unit except Hydras.

Cause everyone knows they are way too fast!

I agree ravens need a buff but this game can't be an indicator cause Mvp was too far behind and had a way to small army.


With Fusion Core, Ravens can be made 2 at a time from techlab or something would be cool.

raven speed upgrade/seeker missile speed upgrades please.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
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