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On October 21 2012 23:45 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 23:40 Bromazepam wrote:On October 21 2012 23:26 pmp10 wrote:On October 21 2012 23:23 Bromazepam wrote:On October 21 2012 23:14 pmp10 wrote:On October 21 2012 23:12 Dodgin wrote:On October 21 2012 23:11 Shibunbundit wrote:
Hey we are about to witness a ZvZ right now @DH Bucharest.
I have a question for you:
What do you think about early game ZvZ(R) map starting location disbalance?
Example: Cloud Kingdom - The zerg spawned bottom left has advantage over his opponent, because of the larva - mineral patches distance? I don't know what you could possibly do about it other than make maps where the mineral patches are always south of the hatchery. I suppose it would be possible to code workers and larva to spawn on the side that points towards the nearest mineral patch. That would unbalance the map for air-harassment. There is no removing rotational imbalance in a game that doesn't allow building rotation. The fix would be to have larvae always spawn towards the minerals. That's even worse as it would mean sometimes putting them behind the building where they cannot be seen. Lack of rotation was sadly done to death and it plays far bigger role in the way wall-offs work but that's the game design and I bet Blizzard will stick to it. Why would the larvae behind the hatchery be a problem? For targeting purposes? That too but also far more importantly for simple counting. The whole reason we have no rotation in game is so that it can be played from a single camera angle. If you put larva behind the hatchery they cannot be counted visually.
All it takes is one visible so the opponent can ctrl-click them. Don't tell me people actually count larvae by looking at the models when there are 10+ all clumped up together.
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Thanks for the effort, Dougler. ^^
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On October 22 2012 00:12 TheDougler wrote:
OMG lol, so you know how I posted that technically Naniwa can still qualify on points to DH winter? I think he actually STILL is in the running for that.
Current point standings:
1. Nerchio >= 44
2. Setephano = 32
3. Fraer = 32
4. Sase = 29
5. Targa = 25
6. TheSTC = 25
7. LiquidRet = 25
8. LiquidHero = 24
9. MVP Monster = 20
10. one of StarNan and Monchi = 20 points (calculating match score shortly).
11. Socke = 12 with + 8 Match Score
12. Genius with + 6 match score, + 12 map score.
13. Naniwa with +6 match score, + 12 map score
Starnan/Monchi loser will have 12 points. Monchi's match score if he loses will still be enough to qualify him directly based on points and he would be at slot 14. If he goes on to the semifinals however, to fill slot number ten however things get SUPER exciting, as StarNan's match score would be +3 and thus putting him at slot number 15.
14 TLO = 12 Points, +4 match score.
Keep in mind... 2 players here will get direct seeds. Thus, the top 14 will qualify if 2 of Nerchio, Bly, and Mana qualify.
For TLO to qualify though he NEEDS Monchi to come back in this series and advance to the semifinals (and then lose to Nerchio).
My math could be wrong, but I'm actually pretty sure that's accurate. I checked and Sage only has +2 match score so nothing to worry about there.
Tl;DR If Monchi wins this series, and loses to Nerchio, TLO and Naniwa both qualify on points to DH Winter.
Can someone tweet the TL;DR to Appolo? That makes this series FAR more meaningful IMO. Checked my math again and yeah, so far it does add up!
Edit: and you're welcome AlternativeEgo
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On October 22 2012 00:14 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Thanks for the effort, Dougler. ^^
How is your pizza?
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wow I think picking off those 4 stalkers means monchi wins this.
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On October 22 2012 00:16 SarcasmMonster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:14 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Thanks for the effort, Dougler. ^^ How is your pizza?
It was pretty crowded so I had to postpond it. Belly does not approve. Will go down (it's located in the same house fuck yeah) again after this series.
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No homo but monchi is handsome.
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On October 22 2012 00:12 TheDougler wrote:
OMG lol, so you know how I posted that technically Naniwa can still qualify on points to DH winter? I think he actually STILL is in the running for that.
Current point standings:
1. Nerchio >= 44
2. Setephano = 32
3. Fraer = 32
4. Sase = 29
5. Targa = 25
6. TheSTC = 25
7. LiquidRet = 25
8. LiquidHero = 24
9. MVP Monster = 20
10. one of StarNan and Monchi = 20 points (calculating match score shortly).
11. Socke = 12 with + 8 Match Score
12. Genius with + 6 match score, + 12 map score.
13. Naniwa with +6 match score, + 12 map score
Starnan/Monchi loser will have 12 points. Monchi's match score if he loses will still be enough to qualify him directly based on points and he would be at slot 14. If he goes on to the semifinals however, to fill slot number ten however things get SUPER exciting, as StarNan's match score would be +3 and thus putting him at slot number 15.
14 TLO = 12 Points, +4 match score.
Keep in mind... 2 players here will get direct seeds. Thus, the top 14 will qualify if 2 of Nerchio, Bly, and Mana qualify.
For TLO to qualify though he NEEDS Monchi to come back in this series and advance to the semifinals (and then lose to Nerchio).
My math could be wrong, but I'm actually pretty sure that's accurate. I checked and Sage only has +2 match score so nothing to worry about there.
Tl;DR If Monchi wins this series, and loses to Nerchio, TLO and Naniwa both qualify on points to DH Winter.
E: What about Bly?
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Come on Monchi... Do it for TLO!
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On October 22 2012 00:20 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:12 TheDougler wrote:
OMG lol, so you know how I posted that technically Naniwa can still qualify on points to DH winter? I think he actually STILL is in the running for that.
Current point standings:
1. Nerchio >= 44
2. Setephano = 32
3. Fraer = 32
4. Sase = 29
5. Targa = 25
6. TheSTC = 25
7. LiquidRet = 25
8. LiquidHero = 24
9. MVP Monster = 20
10. one of StarNan and Monchi = 20 points (calculating match score shortly).
11. Socke = 12 with + 8 Match Score
12. Genius with + 6 match score, + 12 map score.
13. Naniwa with +6 match score, + 12 map score
Starnan/Monchi loser will have 12 points. Monchi's match score if he loses will still be enough to qualify him directly based on points and he would be at slot 14. If he goes on to the semifinals however, to fill slot number ten however things get SUPER exciting, as StarNan's match score would be +3 and thus putting him at slot number 15.
14 TLO = 12 Points, +4 match score.
Keep in mind... 2 players here will get direct seeds. Thus, the top 14 will qualify if 2 of Nerchio, Bly, and Mana qualify.
For TLO to qualify though he NEEDS Monchi to come back in this series and advance to the semifinals (and then lose to Nerchio).
My math could be wrong, but I'm actually pretty sure that's accurate. I checked and Sage only has +2 match score so nothing to worry about there.
Tl;DR If Monchi wins this series, and loses to Nerchio, TLO and Naniwa both qualify on points to DH Winter. You forgot Bly, didn't you?
Fuck. K hold on.
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lol thought for a second that monchi was going for nexus first when he qued up the probes on his nexus ...
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On October 22 2012 00:21 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:20 StarVe wrote:On October 22 2012 00:12 TheDougler wrote:
OMG lol, so you know how I posted that technically Naniwa can still qualify on points to DH winter? I think he actually STILL is in the running for that.
Current point standings:
1. Nerchio >= 44
2. Setephano = 32
3. Fraer = 32
4. Sase = 29
5. Targa = 25
6. TheSTC = 25
7. LiquidRet = 25
8. Bly >= 25
9. LiquidHero = 24
10. MVP Monster = 20
11. one of StarNan and Monchi = 20 points (calculating match score shortly).
12. Socke = 12 with + 8 Match Score
13. Genius with + 6 match score, + 12 map score.
14. Naniwa with +6 match score, + 12 map score
Starnan/Monchi loser will have 12 points. Monchi's match score if he loses will still be enough to qualify him directly based on points and he would be at slot 14. If he goes on to the semifinals however, to fill slot number ten however things get SUPER exciting, as StarNan's match score would be +3 and thus putting him at slot number 15.
Keep in mind... 2 players here will get direct seeds. Thus, the top 14 will qualify if 2 of Nerchio, Bly, and Mana qualify.
For TLO to qualify though he NEEDS Monchi to come back in this series and advance to the semifinals (and then lose to Nerchio).
Tl;DR If Monchi wins this series, and loses to Nerchio, then Naniwa both qualifies on points to DH Winter. You forgot Bly, didn't you? Fuck. K hold on.
Yup. So it's only Naniwa who has his fingers crossed for this one.
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On October 22 2012 00:24 TheDougler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:21 TheDougler wrote:On October 22 2012 00:20 StarVe wrote:On October 22 2012 00:12 TheDougler wrote:
OMG lol, so you know how I posted that technically Naniwa can still qualify on points to DH winter? I think he actually STILL is in the running for that.
Current point standings:
1. Nerchio >= 44
2. Setephano = 32
3. Fraer = 32
4. Sase = 29
5. Targa = 25
6. TheSTC = 25
7. LiquidRet = 25
8. Bly >= 25
9. LiquidHero = 24
10. MVP Monster = 20
11. one of StarNan and Monchi = 20 points (calculating match score shortly).
12. Socke = 12 with + 8 Match Score
13. Genius with + 6 match score, + 12 map score.
14. Naniwa with +6 match score, + 12 map score
Starnan/Monchi loser will have 12 points. Monchi's match score if he loses will still be enough to qualify him directly based on points and he would be at slot 14. If he goes on to the semifinals however, to fill slot number ten however things get SUPER exciting, as StarNan's match score would be +3 and thus putting him at slot number 15.
Keep in mind... 2 players here will get direct seeds. Thus, the top 14 will qualify if 2 of Nerchio, Bly, and Mana qualify.
For TLO to qualify though he NEEDS Monchi to come back in this series and advance to the semifinals (and then lose to Nerchio).
Tl;DR If Monchi wins this series, and loses to Nerchio, then Naniwa both qualifies on points to DH Winter. You forgot Bly, didn't you? Fuck. K hold on. Yup. So it's only Naniwa who has his fingers crossed for this one.
Even if you're an EG fan you're still doing some badass work here, thanks for adding this shit up man.
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On October 22 2012 00:25 eieio wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:24 TheDougler wrote:On October 22 2012 00:21 TheDougler wrote:On October 22 2012 00:20 StarVe wrote:On October 22 2012 00:12 TheDougler wrote:
OMG lol, so you know how I posted that technically Naniwa can still qualify on points to DH winter? I think he actually STILL is in the running for that.
Current point standings:
1. Nerchio >= 44
2. Setephano = 32
3. Fraer = 32
4. Sase = 29
5. Targa = 25
6. TheSTC = 25
7. LiquidRet = 25
8. Bly >= 25
9. LiquidHero = 24
10. MVP Monster = 20
11. one of StarNan and Monchi = 20 points (calculating match score shortly).
12. Socke = 12 with + 8 Match Score
13. Genius with + 6 match score, + 12 map score.
14. Naniwa with +6 match score, + 12 map score
Starnan/Monchi loser will have 12 points. Monchi's match score if he loses will still be enough to qualify him directly based on points and he would be at slot 14. If he goes on to the semifinals however, to fill slot number ten however things get SUPER exciting, as StarNan's match score would be +3 and thus putting him at slot number 15.
Keep in mind... 2 players here will get direct seeds. Thus, the top 14 will qualify if 2 of Nerchio, Bly, and Mana qualify.
For TLO to qualify though he NEEDS Monchi to come back in this series and advance to the semifinals (and then lose to Nerchio).
Tl;DR If Monchi wins this series, and loses to Nerchio, then Naniwa both qualifies on points to DH Winter. You forgot Bly, didn't you? Fuck. K hold on. Yup. So it's only Naniwa who has his fingers crossed for this one. Even if you're an EG fan you're still doing some badass work here, thanks for adding this shit up man.
Haha am I reading wrong or are you suggesting that Dougler is a good person despite being a EG fan? 
But ye, nicely done Dougler, thanks!
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I love the use of words here. He said "hull damage" when the phoenix had lost its shield.
Really a great way of saying it where others would have said "life" or "hit points". (or similar)
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On October 22 2012 00:25 eieio wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:24 TheDougler wrote:On October 22 2012 00:21 TheDougler wrote:On October 22 2012 00:20 StarVe wrote:On October 22 2012 00:12 TheDougler wrote:
OMG lol, so you know how I posted that technically Naniwa can still qualify on points to DH winter? I think he actually STILL is in the running for that.
Current point standings:
1. Nerchio >= 44
2. Setephano = 32
3. Fraer = 32
4. Sase = 29
5. Targa = 25
6. TheSTC = 25
7. LiquidRet = 25
8. Bly >= 25
9. LiquidHero = 24
10. MVP Monster = 20
11. one of StarNan and Monchi = 20 points (calculating match score shortly).
12. Socke = 12 with + 8 Match Score
13. Genius with + 6 match score, + 12 map score.
14. Naniwa with +6 match score, + 12 map score
Starnan/Monchi loser will have 12 points. Monchi's match score if he loses will still be enough to qualify him directly based on points and he would be at slot 14. If he goes on to the semifinals however, to fill slot number ten however things get SUPER exciting, as StarNan's match score would be +3 and thus putting him at slot number 15.
Keep in mind... 2 players here will get direct seeds. Thus, the top 14 will qualify if 2 of Nerchio, Bly, and Mana qualify.
For TLO to qualify though he NEEDS Monchi to come back in this series and advance to the semifinals (and then lose to Nerchio).
Tl;DR If Monchi wins this series, and loses to Nerchio, then Naniwa both qualifies on points to DH Winter. You forgot Bly, didn't you? Fuck. K hold on. Yup. So it's only Naniwa who has his fingers crossed for this one. Even if you're an EG fan you're still doing some badass work here, thanks for adding this shit up man.
Yeah we may excuse him. For now.
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On October 22 2012 00:27 Bibbit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:25 eieio wrote:On October 22 2012 00:24 TheDougler wrote:On October 22 2012 00:21 TheDougler wrote:On October 22 2012 00:20 StarVe wrote:On October 22 2012 00:12 TheDougler wrote:
OMG lol, so you know how I posted that technically Naniwa can still qualify on points to DH winter? I think he actually STILL is in the running for that.
Current point standings:
1. Nerchio >= 44
2. Setephano = 32
3. Fraer = 32
4. Sase = 29
5. Targa = 25
6. TheSTC = 25
7. LiquidRet = 25
8. Bly >= 25
9. LiquidHero = 24
10. MVP Monster = 20
11. one of StarNan and Monchi = 20 points (calculating match score shortly).
12. Socke = 12 with + 8 Match Score
13. Genius with + 6 match score, + 12 map score.
14. Naniwa with +6 match score, + 12 map score
Starnan/Monchi loser will have 12 points. Monchi's match score if he loses will still be enough to qualify him directly based on points and he would be at slot 14. If he goes on to the semifinals however, to fill slot number ten however things get SUPER exciting, as StarNan's match score would be +3 and thus putting him at slot number 15.
Keep in mind... 2 players here will get direct seeds. Thus, the top 14 will qualify if 2 of Nerchio, Bly, and Mana qualify.
For TLO to qualify though he NEEDS Monchi to come back in this series and advance to the semifinals (and then lose to Nerchio).
Tl;DR If Monchi wins this series, and loses to Nerchio, then Naniwa both qualifies on points to DH Winter. You forgot Bly, didn't you? Fuck. K hold on. Yup. So it's only Naniwa who has his fingers crossed for this one. Even if you're an EG fan you're still doing some badass work here, thanks for adding this shit up man. Haha am I reading wrong or are you suggesting that Dougler is a good person despite being a EG fan? But ye, nicely done Dougler, thanks!
lol the only team I fanboy harder than TL is Khan, of course that's what I mean!
but it's all in good fun, seriously I appreciate it.
for the record empire is in my top 5, probably just behind mouz :p
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On October 22 2012 00:28 eieio wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:27 Bibbit wrote:On October 22 2012 00:25 eieio wrote:On October 22 2012 00:24 TheDougler wrote:On October 22 2012 00:21 TheDougler wrote:On October 22 2012 00:20 StarVe wrote:On October 22 2012 00:12 TheDougler wrote:
OMG lol, so you know how I posted that technically Naniwa can still qualify on points to DH winter? I think he actually STILL is in the running for that.
Current point standings:
1. Nerchio >= 44
2. Setephano = 32
3. Fraer = 32
4. Sase = 29
5. Targa = 25
6. TheSTC = 25
7. LiquidRet = 25
8. Bly >= 25
9. LiquidHero = 24
10. MVP Monster = 20
11. one of StarNan and Monchi = 20 points (calculating match score shortly).
12. Socke = 12 with + 8 Match Score
13. Genius with + 6 match score, + 12 map score.
14. Naniwa with +6 match score, + 12 map score
Starnan/Monchi loser will have 12 points. Monchi's match score if he loses will still be enough to qualify him directly based on points and he would be at slot 14. If he goes on to the semifinals however, to fill slot number ten however things get SUPER exciting, as StarNan's match score would be +3 and thus putting him at slot number 15.
Keep in mind... 2 players here will get direct seeds. Thus, the top 14 will qualify if 2 of Nerchio, Bly, and Mana qualify.
For TLO to qualify though he NEEDS Monchi to come back in this series and advance to the semifinals (and then lose to Nerchio).
Tl;DR If Monchi wins this series, and loses to Nerchio, then Naniwa both qualifies on points to DH Winter. You forgot Bly, didn't you? Fuck. K hold on. Yup. So it's only Naniwa who has his fingers crossed for this one. Even if you're an EG fan you're still doing some badass work here, thanks for adding this shit up man. Haha am I reading wrong or are you suggesting that Dougler is a good person despite being a EG fan? But ye, nicely done Dougler, thanks! lol the only team I fanboy harder than TL is Khan, of course that's what I mean! but it's all in good fun, seriously I appreciate it. for the record empire is in my top 5, probably just behind mouz :p
But mouz is dead, man. RIP mouz
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On October 22 2012 00:30 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:28 eieio wrote:On October 22 2012 00:27 Bibbit wrote:On October 22 2012 00:25 eieio wrote:On October 22 2012 00:24 TheDougler wrote:On October 22 2012 00:21 TheDougler wrote:On October 22 2012 00:20 StarVe wrote:On October 22 2012 00:12 TheDougler wrote:
OMG lol, so you know how I posted that technically Naniwa can still qualify on points to DH winter? I think he actually STILL is in the running for that.
Current point standings:
1. Nerchio >= 44
2. Setephano = 32
3. Fraer = 32
4. Sase = 29
5. Targa = 25
6. TheSTC = 25
7. LiquidRet = 25
8. Bly >= 25
9. LiquidHero = 24
10. MVP Monster = 20
11. one of StarNan and Monchi = 20 points (calculating match score shortly).
12. Socke = 12 with + 8 Match Score
13. Genius with + 6 match score, + 12 map score.
14. Naniwa with +6 match score, + 12 map score
Starnan/Monchi loser will have 12 points. Monchi's match score if he loses will still be enough to qualify him directly based on points and he would be at slot 14. If he goes on to the semifinals however, to fill slot number ten however things get SUPER exciting, as StarNan's match score would be +3 and thus putting him at slot number 15.
Keep in mind... 2 players here will get direct seeds. Thus, the top 14 will qualify if 2 of Nerchio, Bly, and Mana qualify.
For TLO to qualify though he NEEDS Monchi to come back in this series and advance to the semifinals (and then lose to Nerchio).
Tl;DR If Monchi wins this series, and loses to Nerchio, then Naniwa both qualifies on points to DH Winter. You forgot Bly, didn't you? Fuck. K hold on. Yup. So it's only Naniwa who has his fingers crossed for this one. Even if you're an EG fan you're still doing some badass work here, thanks for adding this shit up man. Haha am I reading wrong or are you suggesting that Dougler is a good person despite being a EG fan? But ye, nicely done Dougler, thanks! lol the only team I fanboy harder than TL is Khan, of course that's what I mean! but it's all in good fun, seriously I appreciate it. for the record empire is in my top 5, probably just behind mouz :p But mouz is dead, man. RIP mouz
Hey in my mind mouz still has Thorzain and Morrow, don't remind me...
they were like the team's signature players 
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